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Title: Too busy driving?
Post by: laney on 02 March 2007, 08:46
Where are all of the 07 plate Ed 30 and standard GTI owners telling us how nice their motors are?
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: phope on 02 March 2007, 08:52
only driven it a few miles yesterday  :smiley:

Was out at a black-tie do with the office last night, so it was parked up safely.

Poked around with the highline computer settings and the seating position, and thats about it so far...will get a chance to drive it properly tonight, so will get some pics then

Picked mine up at 3pm yesterday, and Ollieb7's silver Edition 30 was being driven into the showroom to take it's place...was looking good  :cool:

Also got given a promotional USB memory stick branded "Golf GT" from the dealer as they'd just had a batch in...hardly a big freebie, but a nice touch
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 02 March 2007, 10:03
I'm here! Have done about 100 miles so far but it is torture, dying to just floor it!

All going well so far. Possibly the mildest case of dash top rattle but really nothing. Even the auto lights are turning themselves off when coming out of a tunnel!

18's look great and the dealer finally fitted the metal valves which finish them off nicely.

Xenon's are great, and look the nuts.
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: mrtibbs27 on 02 March 2007, 12:59
Hi guys and gals, just to let you know on this thread, I picked her up yesterday afternoon :drool: :grin:. Looked great, I do like it in red myself. Looks much better in the metal than the pictures though, not going to stop too long, got a date with a red girl. Will post update after weekend but I just know its gonna be great
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Ollieb7 on 03 March 2007, 10:46
only driven it a few miles yesterday  :smiley:
Picked mine up at 3pm yesterday, and Ollieb7's silver Edition 30 was being driven into the showroom to take it's place...was looking good  :cool:

Ah - is that what they did - that would explain why my car was not what i'd call fully clean. Saw your Audi Phope with the keys hanging out of the door lock - hope its still there. Still havn't seen your car Phope - the photos looking good though. :kiss:
I didn't get any freebies though  - my wife was well peeved that there was no flowers!

I've still only got 50 miles on the clock - spent yesterday doing the armourfend (fiddly) and the life shine (sooo easy!) - car is now what i'd call mint! Going for a big drive today out in RoyalDeeside so that should add a few miles.

Impressions? The gear shift is lovely, short throw with a good mechanical feel to it, Not had the car over 3500 rpm but you can feel it has some torque low down, pulls really well - Super smooth and refiined - 60mph you don't notice (this could also be a negitive mind as to feel your going fast you'll need to be going really fast!) After the Clio 182 for 6 weeks the Golf does feel big but thats just a matter of getting used to. The seats have a fantastic electic lumber support for moving up, down and backwards and forwards for your back (the button is like a little Golf ball on the side) - they also grip for side movement spot on. Suspension firm but rides well. RCD500 - enough to blow my ears off. The sunroof mechanisum is not a button but a rottary knob, so easy to use. Gripes - trying hard to think here! - whey have they stoped doing the black trim below the rear window to extend the line? The indicators on the mirrors can be slightly distracting. Still havn't done my rear valance. And the running in - the dealer said 'oh they all come run in' - the manual says no more than 3/4 top speed for the first 1000km and then (can't remember) for the next 500km.
This is something that im afraid others will not be able to appreciate - but you soooo should - the wheels are so easy to clean and the car looks more than the dogs dangles what with the black wheel, red calipers and silver body work - soooo chuffed. :kiss: :laugh: :laugh: :tongue: :laugh:
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: illyun on 03 March 2007, 15:08
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sorry... but I've just picked up my Edition 30
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Hector on 03 March 2007, 20:18
Hello guys (and gals  :wink: :wink: :wink:,) sounds like we are having a good time so far  :smiley:
300 miles now and just opened it up a little on the way for a takeaway - it's very fast on the pickup.

Anyhow, I know this is totally anal but - can you remove the front carpet mat stubs ???? (the ones fitted to the carpet at the front).
The studs on the ED30 seem to have no holding-clip on them (they seem to be custom for the supplied ED30 mats which I don't like  :sick: and so I want to put on some cool VW Mats that I have bought, but I need the standard mat stubs (with the movable clips on the top - like the standard GTI).

Can you replace the front carpet stubs guys - the dealer said yes - but I never take their word
By the way - replaced the front astray lid with a aluminum one - looks sooooooooooo much better.

You can probably guess if I am writing about ashtray covers and mats - it's the only thing that I would change !!! :laugh: :laugh:   
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: TagnuT on 03 March 2007, 20:27
I know the feeling..Mind you just washed it and found a rash of brown spots on the bonnet!!!  :sick: A bit like railway fallout. Called the dealer and will be dropping in to see them on Monday. Mmmm they did mention that they had had some building work done last week.
Now the other question is it on top or under the life shine!!! Not happy about it. But not too stressed as life's too short.  :laugh:

Mind you the comments I've had with regards to the car have been very complimentary. The car is great to drive.
I put it in the garage last night. Locked it up and there was an electrical motor type of noise. Does the water pump keep working after the car is turned off?
It was NOT the cooling fans. LOL
Will post some pictures soon.
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Pando on 04 March 2007, 07:12
Yeah there is always a pump noise  -nothing to worry about
 :smiley:

Just enjoy !!
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 04 March 2007, 21:19

I've still only got 50 miles on the clock - spent yesterday doing the armourfend (fiddly)

Ollie - where did you get this kit from and how much did it cost? thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: illyun on 04 March 2007, 22:56
Picked up mine yesterday and then went back 2 hours later to pick up my sat-nav dvd that they had forgotten to give me... and there I saw it, looking pristine and eminently desirable - my old R32.  Felt quite upset actually and my wife thought I was crazy.  :grin:  I really didn't want to let go of that car having been to Gibraltar and back in it and despite the fuel economy - or lack of it - I absolutely loved that car.  Best car I have ever had so far...  :cry:

verdict's out on the Edition 30 though as I drove it home and promptly put it in the garage where it will remain for a month while I get stonechip protection, autoglym lifeshine, a personalised number plate (E3 OVW -> E30 VW), seat covers, carpet covers, new BBS alloys etc...sorted on it.  However, from the initial 25 mile drive at below 3000rpm - below 2500rpm most of the way - it seems very promising.  Certainly handles better than the R32 which I expected anyway and when I initially drove it it jumped forward with an urgency that wasn't there in the standard GTI -and no I didn't snatch the clutch  :rolleyes: Its a diferent beast to the standard GTI.  The tinted rear windows give a really menacing look to the all black GTI and it got a lot of stares.  I think people clocked on to the fact that it wasn't an ordinary GTI and certainly doesn't look as civilised - more max-power, boy-racish, subaru impreza brigade type of ambience due to the rear tints, body kit and different alloys... not necessarily a good thing   :huh:  In fact, I've been slagging of the aesthetics since I saw them, but actually in the flesh the Edition 30 looks the business and I think VW have pulled of a subversive look to it that somehow also remains subtle in the best traditions of the GTI. You look at it and think 'another GTI' but then think, hang on, it doesn't quite look right - a bit more in your face.
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: illyun on 04 March 2007, 23:27
Some more things....  I managed to get about £80-100 off the price of my Edition 30, demanded and got a Golf GT USB memory stick, a VW Wolsey CD wallet and a massive bunch of flowers for the missus  :grin: :grin: :grin:  Not bad since last year, I only got a biro.  :embarassed: 

Also, my dealer pointed out some minor blemishes in the paintwork and offered to have them polished out but I conjured up some image of a cowboy messing with my paintwork and making it worse  :shocked:  So I told him not to worry and that I'd deal with it unless of course it proves unremovable in which case I will get them to sort it.  There is a small 5p coin size blemish on the  bonnet and similar whitish specks on the front end ridge where the roof meets the doors on both sides but nothing serious. 

I got £140 of my GAP insurance  :grin: :grin: :grin:   I told him that I'd been quoted lower elsewhere and showed him a site which was run by a firm backed by AXA and it gave a quote of £289 with a £12.5k claim limit, but I told him that I had just purchased a new Toyota Corolla for my dad and had been offered a discount for both cars at £500 for both - not quite true  :embarassed: - and was offered a match on the spot.  Result at £250 with a £15k limit  :laugh:. 

Also signed up for the maintance agreement whihc is WELL worth it in my opinion... covers servicing for the first 3 years - 3 services as I am NOT going on the long life nonsense even though I will specify that they use long life oil as its better - an MOT at the end, tyres, parts not under warranty like the clutch for example, 2 extra year's breakdown cover...  Bargain for around £830 for 3 years, or £23 a month and an agreed annual mileage of 9000 miles although I probably won't even do that... especially as I joked that I'd be at the dealers every week for a new set of front tyres and was told that the dealer didn't care as they got paid for all the work by VW and in fact made money out of it!  :shocked:  Armed with this knowleage I know exactly what I'm going to do to the car when its run in  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:  I reckon with 230 bhp through the front tryes, I'll get through at least 6 tyres and a clutch within 3 years  :evil:  In fact, I'll bl00dy well make sure that I do  :grin: :grin: :grin:  That would have cost over £1500 just on its own without the service costs.
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: paulm007 on 05 March 2007, 11:17
Illyun

Never heard of that maint agreement, it sounds like a bargin.  Are you limited in anyway, except on the mileage.  I mean I reckon I could easily get through loads of tyres when I get my GTI 30 :)
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 05 March 2007, 12:25
Downside re the tyre cover is they only supply the factory fit tyres - you can't swap for say F1s and it's only wear and tyre, so punctures are excluded. Ask your dealer about fixed cost maintenace. I went for it also but excluded the tyres - all else is the same. it also includes VW assist recovery in years 2 and 3 (year 1 is included with the car).
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 05 March 2007, 17:42
Downside re the tyre cover is they only supply the factory fit tyres - you can't swap for say F1s

Why do you want directional tyres?  They are old technology now - assymetric boots are the way to go!  :wink:

it also includes VW assist recovery in years 2 and 3 (year 1 is included with the car).

What . . . . I thought the full three year AA was included anyway, providing you have the car serviced by VW ????  Discuss . . .
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 05 March 2007, 18:19
Downside re the tyre cover is they only supply the factory fit tyres - you can't swap for say F1s

Why do you want directional tyres?  They are old technology now - assymetric boots are the way to go!  :wink:

it also includes VW assist recovery in years 2 and 3 (year 1 is included with the car).

What . . . . I thought the full three year AA was included anyway, providing you have the car serviced by VW ????  Discuss . . .

F1's get much better reviews than the conti's hence that coment.

Re the breakdown cover, I was told you get one year free breakdown cover with a new car care of VW Assist. If you take out a fixed cost servicing scheme other than the basic service only policy you get 3 years VW Assist cover - top level too to collect your car anywhere, take it to VW and give you a coutesy car, and all that gubbins...

No-one has ever mentioned any invlovement of the AA to me at all.
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 05 March 2007, 21:30
Downside re the tyre cover is they only supply the factory fit tyres - you can't swap for say F1s

Why do you want directional tyres?  They are old technology now - assymetric boots are the way to go!  :wink:

it also includes VW assist recovery in years 2 and 3 (year 1 is included with the car).

What . . . . I thought the full three year AA was included anyway, providing you have the car serviced by VW ????  Discuss . . .

F1's get much better reviews than the conti's hence that coment.

Hmmm . . . the Contis are OK, not perfect, but Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 will blow you away with the level of grip.  When my S4 gets loaded upto the max weight, about 2.2tonnes, the cornering grip really is utterly superb.  Directional tyres really are old technology - they were initally developed for reducing road noise, which they did, but they then suffered with aquaplaning, and newer assymetric tyres can be designed with different rubber compounds across the tread width, and tuned for hard cornering.

Re the breakdown cover, I was told you get one year free breakdown cover with a new car care of VW Assist.

You're right, to a point.  The VW Assist is initally free for the first year.  But a simple phone call to the stealer, and providing it has been serviced in accordance with the schedule, and by a VW main stealer, then they send you another membership card for another 12 months.  So you definately get the first two years free.  The third year - I'm not too sure . . . .

If you take out a fixed cost servicing scheme other than the basic service only policy you get 3 years VW Assist cover - top level too to collect your car anywhere, take it to VW and give you a coutesy car, and all that gubbins...

But with the exception of a courtesy car, you get the full monty in terms of breakdown cover anyway!  And you have a 3 year warranty, so you'll get a courtessy car anyway!

I think they've had ya . . .  :sad:

No-one has ever mentioned any invlovement of the AA to me at all.

Whoops, Freudian slip.  The VW Assist was originally operated by the RAC, using VW branded vans, and sole VW breakdown technicians.  At the back-end of last year, the contract was switched to the AA, who removed all the dedicated VW vans and techhys, and you now get the bog standard AA van, who could be called out to any automotive Tom, Richard or Henrietta - oh, and the default response time has been downgraded to 90 minutes . . .
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 05 March 2007, 21:45
Ok then Sean, we are at least agreed that it is nice to have a choice of tyres and not be tied to VW's OE items.

I'm not sure about all this break down cover, I'll take your word for it. But I reckon I'll have a set of 'free' brake pads out them and wipers before the contract ends!

And you get the assurance of not being hit by price hikes.

By the way, we still (up until this morning at least) have VW branded recovery vans round here and they seem to be tied to dealers, ie they cover an x mile radius around a stealer.
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: illyun on 05 March 2007, 22:36
I don't mind factory tyres if they are free...
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 05 March 2007, 23:31
Ok then Sean, we are at least agreed that it is nice to have a choice of tyres and not be tied to VW's OE items.

Oh very true about the freedom of choice.  But GTI OE fit can be either Mich Pilot Sport PS2, Mich Pilot Exalto PE2, Conti SportContact2, Dunlop SP SportMaxx  :sick:, Bridgestone Potenza RE050  :sick:  :sick:  :sick:  :sick: - so as long as they, at some time on some cars came as OE fit, you could go for any one of those.  Still don't get the F1s though - unless you only drive on m-ways in the dry  :wink:

I'm not sure about all this break down cover, I'll take your word for it. But I reckon I'll have a set of 'free' brake pads out them and wipers before the contract ends!

Feckin expensive wipers eh ???  :grin:  :grin:

And you get the assurance of not being hit by price hikes.

But the interest on the dosh in the bank would cover that!

By the way, we still (up until this morning at least) have VW branded recovery vans round here and they seem to be tied to dealers, ie they cover an x mile radius around a stealer.

Not for long, all the VW branded vans are being taken out of service, and don't believe the horse dung about them being tied to a stealer.  I've needed to call out VW Assist twice since Sept last year.  The first time was the VW branded van, response time IIRC was about 40 mins, he had the proper VAS5052, and was very knowledgeable.  One thing which shocked me though was his area: south Lincs, Cambs, Norfolk, Suffolk, north Essex - my guess that covered about 15-20 dealers!!!!!  The second call out was last week, a 90 minute response time, AA only van, refused to sub-contract it to a local agency, even though I could see the local wagon from my house window - worst thing - the bastards never even turned up!!!!  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:

I sorted it out myself, and told my local stealer, who admitted an "alarming number" of increased complaints "since the AA took over the contract" - now if that didn't reassure me of the quality of the service . . . .  :angry:
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: phope on 06 March 2007, 00:41
Hey Sean

You got any internet links, etc for reviews of the SP Sportmaxx, that give more info about the overall performance.

I did a Google search, and apart from some good writeups from people in the USA, can't find any other useful info.

Mine has them fitted, and in the (very limited) time I've had mine, they seem ok in the wet for grip and handling

 :undecided:

Ta

Peter
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Ollieb7 on 06 March 2007, 10:55

I've still only got 50 miles on the clock - spent yesterday doing the armourfend (fiddly)

Ollie - where did you get this kit from and how much did it cost? thanks in advance...

It's the Halfords version - £40 - comes in a black tube and hard pressed to notice it once on!
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 06 March 2007, 17:22
Hey Sean

You got any internet links, etc for reviews of the SP Sportmaxx, that give more info about the overall performance.

Nope, but you can have my own personal opinion: they are $h!te, utter pants.  I've complained profoundly about them on other threads.  I really can't think of any redeeming factors in their favour - oh, they are black and round - will that do?  :wink:  :grin:

I did a Google search, and apart from some good writeups from people in the USA, can't find any other useful info.

Post the linkies then, I've yet to see any reviews at all on these!

Mine has them fitted, and in the (very limited) time I've had mine, they seem ok in the wet for grip and handling

 :undecided:

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, - your new Ed30 came with them ??????????  I was told by my (lieing) stealer before Xmas that because of the adverse comments from many different GTI owners, Wolfsburg had (supposedly) stopped fitting the SportMaxx.

Just wait until you have worn just 2mm from the tread, still leaving 5mm - that is when you will start suffering horrendous aquaplaning.  Look at the outer tread blocks, next to the outermost longitudinal grooves.  You will see the reinforcing ridge which closes off the outer tread blocks at 5mm.  Interestingly, Dunlops own website: http://www.dunloptyres.co.uk/ourTyres/car/searchResults/SPSportMaxx/# actually shows the water dispersal from being blocked out to the sides, or outer edges of the tyre (the pic immediately above the size table, with the yellow water in the tread grooves).  They even call it "Twin Hydro-Paddle - The directional tread pattern quickly drains and disperses water from both sides of the tread."  WTF, on directional tyres, the water is supposed to drain from the centre > outwards!!!!!! - NOT blocking the side outlets like on the SportMaxx  :sad:

Even in the dry, they are awful.  They struggle with straight line traction and braking, and in the corners (hard cornering) they are downright scary - very twitchy, and brake away with no warning, and no controlled sliding.

You certainly won't need to take any Senokot with these tyres!

I am actually trying v.hard to wear them out, because they really do let down the handling of the GTI.  I had the fortune to test drive 4 different GTIs, before I purchased mine.  I took one of the testers on a "private" facility, which had a specific handling section, and the balance was absolutely suberb.  Even Mrs Tamer had a go, and got some controllable slides, and said how easy it was to drive on the limit.

All four different GTIs had different boots, but none had Dunlops, and that has been my major gripe, stating to the stealer that the inital fleet of demo GTIs were heavily marketed on their superb on-the-limit handling.  The SportMaxxs' really lower the handling capabilities.

As final comparison, last week, the GTI was at a different stealer for some warranty work.  They gave me a Touran (as it was very short notice).  The Touran was a diesel, fitted with Michelin Energy E3A boots (the lowest tyre in the Michelin range), and outhandled (in terms of tyre feedback, and on-the-limit handling) my GTI.

No, the SportMaxx really are awful, many peeps slate the Conti SportContact2s, but they are a quantum leap better than the Dunlops.  IMVHO, the absolute ultimate tyre for the GTI would be the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2.  In joint runner-up slot, that would be shared with the Conti SportContact2 and the Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2.

I do go on - don't I . . .  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:

Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: phope on 06 March 2007, 19:38
All very interesting...I'll see how I get on with them once the car is run in properly  :smiley:

Michelin PS2s would be my ideal replacement

This was one of the links

http://www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyComments.jsp?additionalComments=Y&commentStatus=P&tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=SP+Sport+Maxx

Trouble is, different roads, temperatures, weather conditions, etc in the USA
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 06 March 2007, 20:01

I've still only got 50 miles on the clock - spent yesterday doing the armourfend (fiddly)

Ollie - where did you get this kit from and how much did it cost? thanks in advance...

It's the Halfords version - £40 - comes in a black tube and hard pressed to notice it once on!

Cheers Ollie - think i'll give it a try. Do you have any pics? How about tips? Is it easy to cut to size? Did you get the bonnet or bumper kit, or both? Sorry for the stack of questions!
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Simonet on 06 March 2007, 22:21
Just picked mine up tonight, and WHAT a car. ok I haven't been above 3500 rpm but what a car.

For comparison my friend took me to the dealers in his anniversary edition Type R (05) plate. My first time in a type R and that is amazing. It kicks in at 6500 rpm and just keeps going and going! However HOW noisy and HOW twitchy in the road. Getting out of that and (after paying my money for the car) driving my shiny new car was like getting out of an old 1978 mini and into a Rolls Royce!

The ED30 was a pleasure to drive home, with a subtle growl from the exhaust and a pleasing Turbo whistle through the gears.

Great around the town and EVER so easy to drive and a plesure to drive down the M61 home. (yes the M61 is a pleasure at last!)

When I got to the dealer, they'd also had delivered a Red 3 door ED30. I must honestly say for me, the Black 5 Door was the right choice, it looks soooo much better in the flesh and the wheels don't look too small. What a great finish the pearl black is too, set off with the tinted rear windows. Don't get me wrong, the 3 door looked good but that seat is awful to let people in the back!

So far (only 25 miles on the clock!!) I can't stop smiling and I can't comment on the Dunlops (yup fitted to mine too!)

To all those that are waiting.... you WON'T be dissapointed  :grin:
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: illyun on 07 March 2007, 01:14
25 miles?!  Mine's got 66 miles and it only did a trip from the dealers to my place - and back again - on Saturday and has been in the garage since.  I have just spent 5 exhausting hours polishing out the hologram blemishes in the paintwork using Zymol's wax cleaner 'made from natural ingredients' - the dealer offered to have them polished out and I politely declined.. from what I have heard they would have probably made it worse.  I then applied the Autoglym lifeshine package painstakingly.  Tomorrow it will get a ayer of wax and wait until I can afford some decent stonechip protection and the personalised plate.
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 07 March 2007, 09:20
All very interesting...I'll see how I get on with them once the car is run in properly  :smiley:

That'll be this weekend, then!  :grin:  :grin:

Michelin PS2s would be my ideal replacement

Good man!  :smug:  :wink:

This was one of the links

http://www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyComments.jsp?additionalComments=Y&commentStatus=P&tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=SP+Sport+Maxx

Oh, yanks . . . we all know how trustworthy and reliable they are!  (would you trust "George dubya"?).

Two, nay, three crucial points that stick out.  Firstly, it seems quite clear there is a Dunlop employee amongst that lot (hint: look for the "duplicate posts").  Secondly, no one has compared with the Mich Pilot Sport PS2, they were all against the original Pilot Sport (which was directional).  Thirdly, there is no side-by-side comparison of new tyres!  It should be pretty obvious that any new tyre will be better than a shagged out worn tyre!

It seems they don't like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3s either!

What is really alarming about these SportMaxxs, and it keeps cropping up everywhere, is they will deform and "flat-spot" when been left standing - absolutely incredible that a tyre (presumable pumped to the correct inflation pressure) is unable to support the static mass of the vehicle.  Just think how the tyre then reacts to the much greater dynamic forces!

Trouble is, different roads, temperatures, weather conditions, etc in the USA

Exactly, and they don't do bends in the US of A  :wink:

At the end of the day, the yanks have a very different mentality.  Spoon feed them advertising, and they believe it as Gospel truth.  Give them VAG 1.8 turbo petrol engines, designed to run on high quality fully synthetic oil for 10k miles, yet they know best, drain them, refil with cheap crap mineral oil (but hey, it's OK because we change our oil every 3000 miles max), then they wonder why they get engine failure due to sludging issues from oil breakdown!

I'll go for my medication now!  :wink:  :grin:
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: v2cjb on 07 March 2007, 09:26
Simonet,Please,Please can you put some pictures of your car on here as I have ordered 5 door black ed30 with tinted rear windows, but have not seen one yet.
Many thanks v2cjb
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 07 March 2007, 10:01
Another link for tyre tests - this one is from the Canadian Car and Driver mag, and more importantly, covers back-to-back testing of brand new tyres.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=4&article_id=10252

Don't forget though, tyres can vary in their consistency of performance, as the tyre wears.  Should a certain tyre come top of the pile when brand new with 7½mm of tread - it doesn't mean it will still be at the top of the pile when half worn to say 3½mm of tread.  It is this point which directional tyres really suffer in the wet, yet assymetric tyres are able to maintain a reasonable level of consistency.

The only true tyre tests, which include testing new and worn tyres is found in Which reports.  However, they tend to concentrate on skinny boots for Kia Pride and the like, and place greater emphasis on cost (weather their pensionable readers can save an extra 50 pence for the electricity meter  :grin: ).
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 07 March 2007, 10:46
TT, whats your reconing on Bridgestones, as my wagon is rapped in those, it wont be long before front will need doing so , are they any good, or can i buy better for less dosh?
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Ollieb7 on 07 March 2007, 12:09


Cheers Ollie - think i'll give it a try. Do you have any pics? How about tips? Is it easy to cut to size? Did you get the bonnet or bumper kit, or both? Sorry for the stack of questions!

Not much point for the pics - you won't see it. I'm afraid i won't have time for any pics as im away on buisness soon for a couple of weeks (car left in the wifes hands -eek  :cry:). I bought the bonnet kit. The left over is enough for the back bumper lip at the tail gate (got a dog!) and the rest (almost) for the lower sections of the from bumper. With the bumper kit you need to get as well for that bit extra but also because it comes with the rubber block used to get the water out - you need a plant spray to wet the bonnet first, apply the (cut to shape) film, move into position and spend a good bit of time getting the water out - leave a lip at the front to fold over the leading edge of the bonnet. This lip you will find collects alot of the water from removal of water so a leather comes in handy here - you could leave it for a while to dry and folder at a later time. This 'lip' process follows for the head lamp scoosher area. You should apply the film as a whole over the area and then CAREFULLY use a very sharp blade to cut to shape.

Not hard - Just need patience!
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 07 March 2007, 12:11
Cheers Ollie, how much overlap do you tuck in the edges? Or is it cut to size as closely as possible?
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Ollieb7 on 07 March 2007, 13:03
Cheers Ollie, how much overlap do you tuck in the edges? Or is it cut to size as closely as possible?

About 0.5 cm will do - enough to meet the panel join under the bonnet - forgot - 1 more tip - For the front of the car cut the film so it follows the line of the body work creases - this helps to cover up the joins.
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 07 March 2007, 13:07
Cheers Ollie, how much overlap do you tuck in the edges? Or is it cut to size as closely as possible?

About 0.5 cm will do - enough to meet the panel join under the bonnet - forgot - 1 more tip - For the front of the car cut the film so it follows the line of the body work creases - this helps to cover up the joins.

Thanks. Will give it a go. Isn't it a pain top fold under the leading edge of the bonnet where it is cut out around the VW logo?
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Ollieb7 on 07 March 2007, 13:20
Apply the film with masking tape - and then use a pen - remove and then use sissors to cut. Remember if it all goes tits up you can use a hair drier to remove the film.

Best of Luck!
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: wantmygti on 08 March 2007, 22:09
ollie - have sent you a pm on this!
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 09 March 2007, 15:25
TT, whats your reconing on Bridgestones, as my wagon is rapped in those, it wont be long before front will need doing so , are they any good, or can i buy better for less dosh?

For me, price isn't an issue, the quality of tyre is THE most important issue.

Now IIRC you have RE050 ??? = pants, I actually think the Dunlop SportMaxx to be better, so that must really say somthing about those Bridgestones!  The only Bridgestone I ever liked was the S-03 Pole Position, but they are difficult to get hold of.

I've listed my own recomendations elsewhere in this thread.

Another nugget of info - even Goodyear have now seen the light with directionals, and now have an assymetric high performance tyre!
Linky: http://eu.goodyear.com/uk_en/tires/repository/Eagle_F1AS/index.jsp
Title: Re: Too busy driving?
Post by: Simonet on 09 March 2007, 22:58
5000 rpm today (kind of had to get in front quick on a roundabout) and it don't half go!