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General => Car audio => Topic started by: reserves on 25 January 2004, 23:55
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Hi,
I'm just about to do a full install and am wondering what options I have for installing my amp. The amp is 14" long and 10" wide, 2" high.
I really want to retain all my boot space and would like the amp to be 100% hidden if possible.
My car is 100% original (3 dr) so I would not really even want to bolt through the floor and put it under the passenger seat.
I'm not sure I want to build a false floor in the boot either!
What are my options?
Is it possible to install the amp under the rear seat? How would I cool it?
Thanks, Rich
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I wouldn't advise putting it under the rear passenger's seat as it'll get very hot!
false floors don't rob too much of the boot space. you could do something like mine. (see gallery)
A false floor and side panels square and tidy off the mk2's boot nicely :)
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or you could reinforse the back of the seat and mount it there?
i would go false floor route tho
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Or you could attach it to a Stealth rear shelf. If you have enough space that is. The only prob is the extra weight (Shelf + Amp) may require new gas struts if they are knackered like mine.
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Only prob with that is heat dissipation - the heat sinks in amplifiers are designed to vent heat from a horizontal installation with the amplifier sitting the right way up, or a vertical installation.
If its installed upside down on a shelf, it may not get the cooling required.
Just a thought
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it says that in the manual if I remember :)
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Have you considered installing under the drivers seat? Never installed one there one a Mk2, so I'm guessing its do-able?
On the plus side, its totally invisible, doesn't rob you of your boot space or impede access to the spare wheel well.
On the minus side, it will be a more involved job to install, but well worth the effort. I've fited one under the drivers seat on an MY01 Imprezza, and it was ideal ;)
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SE11EPS, How did you secure it under the seat? I'm really reluctant to bolt it through the floorpan.
Cheers
R
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What I did was cut a piece of MDF to the size and shape of the amplifier. This was installed and secured under the carpet (you can use double sided carpe tape of very strong velcro).
Then place the amp on-top of the carpet, and secure (with short screws) through the carpet into the MDF.
The thing will never move because a) the MDF is secured to the boot floor and b) in order for the amplifier to move, the carpet has to - as the carpet doesn't move, the amp never will!
Like I say, I've never done this on a Mk2, so just make sure that the seat can move backwards and forwards without fouling the amp, and that there's plenty of room for air to circulate around the amp. Be careful choosing your poistion, as you don't want rear passengers kicking the fcuk out of it when they sit in the back!
I'm sure if I can fit one safely under the seat of a scoob (where the seats are one the deck!), you'll be fine with the Mk2
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if you look at my pics in the gallery.
I screwed a block of MDF in the boot using the existing holes in the bodywork. Then screwed my amp to the piece of MDF
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It has been suggested on another forum that I could install the amp behind the rear door cards (MK 11), has anyone ever tried this?
Would it be cool enough here, even with a couple of 12v fans?
Thanks
R
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Hmmm, nice idea, but I wouldn't do that myself - if its installed in the rear quarter panels, it will be fixed to the inner face of the quarter panel itself - how would you fix it?
If you want to tweak the levels for any reason you have to strip the back end of the car out to get to it.
If the boot is out, and under the seat is out, does the amp fit in the glovebox?
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The amp is quite big so glove box is out, it just about fits under the seat but I think it will be messy.
After having another look at my (3 dr) Mk 11 golf there is certainly a lot of room behind those door cards.
Does anyone think that there would be enough air circulation behind there, would fans help? Also how would I run the wires up into the door card, would I have to cut the door cards?
Cheers
R
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I don't think is well ventilated as it's practically a sealed space. Whilst it is do-able (It won't be too hard to be able to run cables up there) I still don't understand how you're going to hold the amplifer in position, short of fixing through your rear 1/4 card (which you won't want to do). This in turn will bring its own problems, as the fixings that hold that in place will not have been designed to handle the extra load you'll be placing on them (weight of amplifier).
Looking back at your dims, your amp is no bigger than the one I installed under the seat of that Imprezza, and I would be very confident that it could be done neatly with no damage to your interior and maintaining the look of original.
Where are you in the country? I would be more than happy to help you install it, as someone thats done it successfully before. We could rip through it in a couple of hours, no probs ;)
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you could make brackets behind the door cards for the amp to screw onto?
I wouldnt cut the doorcards to get the wiring in.
Couldnt you can run the cables to the boot, down the side (behind all the plastic pannels) and then behind the door cards if you get me?
I did have a look behind the door cards the other day and there is loads of room :o
some cooling fans should keep them cool :)
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Sorry if what I typed was confusing, as I agree you can get the wiring in that zone without screwing up the rear 1/4 panel cards. But, if you start fixing mounting brackets to it, you will.
You will also still have the problem of supporting the weight of the amplifier on the original fixings, which will potentially trash the fixings.
As for cooling fans, what arethey going to do (not being funny, but I don't get it)?. If the space is all but sealed, a fan will do nothing but move the hot air around the chamber.
In order for the fan to have an effect it needs to draw in cool air and expell hot air - it can only do this if their is an inlet/outlet, which would require further modifications to the 1/4 panel.
I don't doubt it can be done, but I think the most important thing here is keeping the interior of the car as original as possible, and mouting the amp here is not the easiest way of doing that.
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I've just been to a well known stereo installer and they reckon it should be fine to install the amp behind the rear door card. I got quoted about ?300 for the full install which I can't afford so I think I will attempt it myself.
They suggested that I bond some MDF on to the rear (inner) panel and screw the amp onto this, sounds reasonably tidy?
What do you guys think?
S11EPS, I'm 20 mins outside Brighton, East Sussex, thanks for the offer of help, I placed the amp under the passenger seat and it sticks out by about 3-4 inches and this is without wires so i think it will be too untidy!
R
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If they have given it the go-ahead, give it a go!
Make sure you use something that will give a real good bond for the mdf to the rear 3/4 card, as you don't want the mdf/amp assembly dropping off into the void when going over a bump!
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Certainly don't want my amp moving anywhere.
I will take some pics and let you all know how it goes.
I'll be getting the little LPL44 remote bass controller for the amp so at least I can adjust the sub level without removing the rear door cards ;)
Thanks, R