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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: workhorse '90 8v on 23 January 2004, 22:13

Title: fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: workhorse '90 8v on 23 January 2004, 22:13
We need an electronics expert?

So many people have posted with the same problem - broken MFA/rev counter.
The traditional remedy being replacing clocks or shelling out ?140 to fix the old ones..

Now then. There must be a simple way to fix our old clocks..
There must be someone out there who knows how.

I've read that the clocks "blow a small internal component".
Someone somewhere must know how to remedy this??

We can all use a soldering iron, there must be a way..

Even if we could only get the rev counter to work.  I'm sure many people would be happy with this.

If anyone has the time and the knowledge to look for the answer,
I think they'd become a forum hero!!

here's hoping....................................
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: mk1 on 23 January 2004, 23:43
I agree, this is a long standing problem. I am sure the fix is not that complicated. Anyone ?.
Steve.
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: modulater on 24 January 2004, 14:05
I'm sure its just something to do with a small part.

The thing is no one wants to tell as its easy money.
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Blue MK2 on 24 January 2004, 15:04
If someone can send me a broken set of clocks I can have a go at fixing them :-\
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Slimmedmk2 on 24 January 2004, 22:33
i ve just bought a 91 h reg with this problem,ive heard it only affects motometer clocks,not vdo ones is this right?
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: daros on 25 January 2004, 14:48
We need an electronics expert?

So many people have posted with the same problem - broken MFA/rev counter.
The traditional remedy being replacing clocks or shelling out ?140 to fix the old ones..


Even the name/address/tel. no where this can be done for 140 quid would be appreciated. I've just had my '91 8v into a VW dealer and they are quoting me 279quid(!!) for a new instrument cluster alone!! (plus VAT and fitting). I still find it hard to believe that I need a new one when mine still comes to life from time to time. Think I'm going to have a look at the connections myself.

David
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gambit on 26 January 2004, 09:10
there is a small voltage regulator on the back of the clocks that sometimes fails, this just pushes into the back of the clocks and costs about ?7 to replace
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: daros on 26 January 2004, 19:16
there is a small voltage regulator on the back of the clocks that sometimes fails, this just pushes into the back of the clocks and costs about ?7 to replace

Can this be bought separately? If so, from where?
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: AdamB on 26 January 2004, 19:37
G'day Gents, its not often I leave the world of the old mk1, but thought I would have a look and see how the younger generation is doing.
I have just got my hands on a second set of clocks for My Cab, and am pretty sure the MFA is the same as the mk2, so as you all have had some problems with your MFA's, I will take a look and see if I can figure the problems out.
I have been an electronice engineer for quite sometime now, so Hopefully may be able to figure out what you should be looking for at test points, etc.
Should have the clocks delivered in a couple of weeks, so you may have to wait a while
Ads
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: daros on 03 February 2004, 21:50
We need an electronics expert?

So many people have posted with the same problem - broken MFA/rev counter.
The traditional remedy being replacing clocks or shelling out ?140 to fix the old ones..


Even the name/address/tel. no where this can be done for 140 quid would be appreciated.

David

SOMEBODY........ANYBODY........PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: daros on 05 February 2004, 17:40
We need an electronics expert?

So many people have posted with the same problem - broken MFA/rev counter.
The traditional remedy being replacing clocks or shelling out ?140 to fix the old ones..


Even the name/address/tel. no where this can be done for 140 quid would be appreciated.

David

SOMEBODY........ANYBODY........PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Come on guys......please dont let me down.....this is starting to remove the pleasure from driving my GTi and replacing it with sheer frustration!! lol
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: reserves on 06 February 2004, 03:50
Try searching for a company called Digidash.

It's alot cheaper to try to find a 2nd hand pair of clocks though.

R
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gambit on 06 February 2004, 09:21
there is a small voltage regulator on the back of the clocks that sometimes fails, this just pushes into the back of the clocks and costs about ?7 to replace

Can this be bought separately? If so, from where?


VAG stock them
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pc16v on 06 February 2004, 18:34
it may be a long shot but when i had a beemer, my clocks stopped working . i found a company in ether performance bmw, or whatever the sister mag to the golf is called,who i sent the whole unit to and got them back for  ?50. all in.so if you can get your hands on a copy,look in the back an you might be in luck .
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: hazlington on 12 March 2004, 10:18
same problem h reg, motometer clocks, no rev counter or MFA,
bought an E reg for spares with motormeter clocks but it has two connectors & the h reg only has one, thought that if the wires would
match colour for colour I would swap the connectors but the E reg has
18 wires & the H reg has 21. The clocks are identical except the temp
light on the E reg is in the temp gauge & on the H reg it is in the row
of idiot lights, cannot figure what the extra 3 wires are for.
going to try swapping any way will post the result.
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Blue MK2 on 12 March 2004, 10:59
anyone got a broken spare set of clocks?
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: reserves on 12 March 2004, 11:15
I just threw mine away after replacing them  :(

I do have a spare set of working ones, single 24 pin unit for post 90 golfs, showing 91,000 miles.

Easier than getting them fixed.

Also I realised that the water warning light doesn't work when the unit goes, I put my new unit in and realised I'd been running low on water, oops....
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Blue MK2 on 12 March 2004, 11:21
damn! :(

ive worked for a few electrical, electronic places/contractors. I recon i could give it a good go at fixing some clocks. maybe even make a profit ;)
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mk2Gti8v on 12 March 2004, 12:11
there is a small voltage regulator on the back of the clocks that sometimes fails, this just pushes into the back of the clocks and costs about ?7 to replace

Can this be bought separately? If so, from where?


VAG stock them


part number 171 919 803 for the regulator (7.40+VAT) and 193 998 089 for the heat sink
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mk2Gti8v on 15 March 2004, 11:09
Well spent saturday taking out the clocks and changing the voltage regulator (the regulator was easy to swap) and putting it all back together just to find out it didn't work! hay ho, new clocks must be the way forward way!
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gibby on 15 March 2004, 11:32
Dunno about the rev counter etc, but when the MFA has knacked on mine (displayed zany characters and wouldn't do anything else when pressing the selection button), I simply took the battery connections off for a minute or so to gave it a bit of a re-boot so to speak, replaced the battery terminals and it came back to life. Not saying this will work for anyone else but it did for me. Worth a try for nothing.

Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: daros on 15 March 2004, 18:34
Well spent saturday taking out the clocks and changing the voltage regulator (the regulator was easy to swap) and putting it all back together just to find out it didn't work! hay ho, new clocks must be the way forward way!

grrrrrrr thats annoying!!! >:(
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: hazlington on 18 March 2004, 20:39
tried to swap wires between pre 90 & post 90 clocks.only 5 of the wires match, gave up & put an enquirey on www.partsgateway.co.uk got 4 replies, set of post 90 clocks with 60 day warranty ?30 +vat.
fitted today work like a dream. Also they are VDO clocks not motormeter
so I am expecting them to last.
cheers Haz
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Dean on 21 March 2004, 16:48
I have an 86 GTi, with VDO clocks, the problem I get is when I am free whheling, the rev counter is eratic, but when accelerating the rev counter is accurate, a very strange one. Please note that these are VDO clocks and these do go faulty as can be seen.

Regards.

Dean.
Title: Re:fix those clocks !!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: golf cabry on 28 April 2004, 23:10
Anyone worked out how to fix these motometer clocks yet?