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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: l55lee on 28 January 2007, 11:35
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Hey Guys
I'm looking for a MK3 Golf GTI but I'm not quite sure whether to go for an 8v or 16v.
A major factor for me is going to be the fuel consumption. I've heard people say that the consumption on a 16v is similar to that of a VR6, so I'm curious to hear your experiences. I realise that when you drive the car a little more assertively it's going to have an impact! :wink:
All feedback appreciated!
Cheers
Lee
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I've got a 16v with a AmD remap pushing 175bhp and will get 35-40mpg doing 50 on clear b roads, 32-36mpg on a motorway doing cruising speeds, and 30ish around town. If I keep the foot off the happy pedal then I will get 320-340 miles from a £45 tank of Tesco 99ron. If I have lots of fun then the amont drops to 260-280...but it's so worth it :smiley:
I hope this doesn't spark a 8v vs 16v argument, but I tried several of both before deciding on the 16v. Imo it has all the drivability of the 8v but has all the power and fun on tap when needed....I would say 16v all the way :smiley:
Where abouts are you as there might be a member near you who could give you an example of the difference. If you are near Reading then holla up as could show you the way of the 16v young Padowan :grin:
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I've got a 16v with a AmD remap pushing 175bhp
Hey mate, do you have the power and torque curves for your AMD remap? I'm running a cheapskate blitzchip which has smoothed out power band but not done too much noticable to the torque band. Cheers, Garfay.
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16v over the 8v any day of the week, i have both.
16v has traction control (EDL) its automatic and turns off over 25mph (40kph) and it has a hydraulic clutch vs cable on the 8v.
My dash on the 16v is metric im getting 6.5-7.8L per 100kms in cruise mode around town or open road.
Much nicer motor that 16v abf :wink: loves a good thrashing!! It is one of the great vag 16v 4pots :cool:
Can handle upgrades too. Chip, cams, turbos etc...
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I've got a 16v with a AmD remap pushing 175bhp
Hey mate, do you have the power and torque curves for your AMD remap? I'm running a cheapskate blitzchip which has smoothed out power band but not done too much noticable to the torque band. Cheers, Garfay.
Will dig it out...from memory the figures are 155ft/lbs :smiley:
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I have to say that my 16v drinks fuel...get between 21-26mpg around town....around 230 miles from £45 :shocked:...this is more since i put my induction kit on and ii think it needs to be set up correctly i.e a good tune up.Can be heavy with the right foot though coz i love the sound. :cool:
ideally woulsd like to get down to the guys at amd as hypermonkey has but i gotta sort out my abs problems first, the £400 i could of used for the remap has to go on a abs pump. :cry:
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If fuel consumption is your only criterea then you shouldnt be buying a Golf Gti.
There is a very simple device on all cars designed for economy - its called an accelerator!
Less pressure on this thing called an accelerator and you get better consumption!
Its a miracle!
Seriously though if all you want is economy and you dont care how fast your car is then buy an 8v. But dont come moaning to us when you find its sluggish!
If you wanna drive it fast now and again then get a 16v and do the usual induction kit/exhaust stuff and a chip/remap and have a real fast economical motor!
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Thanks for your feedback guys.
It's probably worth giving it a bit of background.....
I've had a couple of MK3's. An 8v and a VR6. Both of which I enjoyed. I went to view an 8v Anniversary over the weekend and in addition to the fact that it was a bit of a shed, I must admit that I found it a tad slow.
Following a couple of other cars, I then purchased the best car that I've ever had..... a MK5 GTI. :wink:
I then found a job in London, sold the car and then lost my job in London. I'm now car-less and am deliberating over whether to get an 8v or a 16v. My heart says 16v but my head says 8v.
If I can return reasonable fuel consumption with a 16v, then that's where I'll go. :evil:
Thanks for the offer Hypermonkey, it's appreciated. I live in Taunton, so it'd be a bit of a hike.
If there's anyone closer to me that would like share, I'd be a willing student.
Cheers
Lee
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Where's Overseer when ya need him! He lives in taunton! but dont come on here very often nowadays!
I'm in Swindon.
Bazzer is Bridgwater way I think! :undecided:
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As hypermonkey said it depends on how you drive.
I've had both 8v and 16v mk3's, over a long average i'd say they were similar (motorway/single carriageway/town)
With the 16v you have the option to drive it like you stole it :grin:
If you drive sensibly you can get very good fuel economy.
I very rarely get below 300 miles out of a tank.
Hypermonkey - whereabouts in reading are ya? I'm thinking of getting AMD to remap my 16v, would be good to see what it's like, could we sort something out?
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Stomper I'm Twyford way but could sort out a meet up to show what it does :smiley:
It's best to get things like induction kit if wanting one, leads, plugs and 'zorst sorted befor the remap to get the full potential from the map.
Drop me a pm with your details and we'll see what can be done, just a bit busy this week and the start of next :smiley:
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Thanks guys!
Well, here's the next question.....
I've found an N reg 16v GTI (96 I think), three door with 106k on the clock, locally, which drives very well.
The bodywork and interior are in very good condition.
There's no service history, other than the last year, which included a replacement cam belt.
It's with a dealer and they'll put 12 months MOT on it and a 3 month warranty but no tax.
It doesn't have an alarm, which will cost me about £300 to have installed.
I've done the HPI checks and that's all okay.
The dealer is trying to sell the car for £2,295 and wont budge on price. Is he taking the piss?
Cheers
Lee
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In a word i'd have to say yes.
The fact that there is no road tax or service history is a bit of a concern but if there was room to negotiate then it wouldn't be so bad.
To be honest mate there's other cars about so if you're in no rush then i'd wait for something more suitable to come up.
Just my opinion.
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That STEALER has that car at least a grand over! Dont touch it with a bargepole.
There are better and newer cars out there for a lot less money.
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I paid 3k for mine in July last year...but it was spotless....and I meen that...immaculate paint and interior and came with all the trimmings that I wanted, FSH, lowered, induction, 'zorst, Amd remap, OZ alloys, alarm, 12 months test, 6 months tax, top end stereo with top end components...2nd car and done 30k in 7 years so was worth the money imo and has been a dream to own.
Saying all of that I have changed nearly everything but what you gonna do :evil:
Would say that no service history is the bit that I would question, and if it's standard then over priced. People say you don't get money back for mods...but you can get top $$$ if the car is solid everywhere else and the mods can seal this.
Step away from the rip off...nothing but financial heartache here to see :wink:
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Thanks for the advice guys!
The hunt continues......
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FSH is everything imo, walk away if you cannot get the history on a car. Never buy the first car you see... shop around
When you guys say 106k do you mean in kms? or miles? Just a pleb from the colonies here :laugh:
With regard to checking out a mk3 always look underneath them (get it on a hoist if poss or use a mirror) have a look at the 4 jack points, as it is common for this area to be damaged when people jack the car in the wrong spot.
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Hi bsting
When we say 106k, we mean 106,000 miles. :grin:
Cheers
Lee
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Ahhhh got it :grin:
Cheers Lee
nz is a cool place, with great cop free (mostly) twisty roads :cool:
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I paid £2900 for mine FOUR years ago!
It was totally standard FSH with 98k.
No Mods whatsover but a 16v with ABS and air-con.
That was a fair price at the time.
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Ahhhh got it :grin:
Cheers Lee
nz is a cool place, with great cop free (mostly) twisty roads :cool:
No worries. If only it was the same over here!
Out of curiosity, are distances measured in km or miles in NZ? I've spent plenty of time Australia but I've never been to your wonderful country....
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I paid £2900 for mine FOUR years ago!
It was totally standard FSH with 98k.
No Mods whatsover but a 16v with ABS and air-con.
That was a fair price at the time.
Sounds exactly the type of car that I'm looking for.
Looks like I'm going to have to be patient.....
Are there any places that you guys can recommend for me to keep an eye on?
I'm watching all of the obvious sites... here, autrotrader, pistonheads, clubgti....
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All you've mentioned, plus probably edition38 although it's offline at the moment, should be up and running again soon.
You could always try ebay, seen wuite a lot of 16v's on there, you can still go and view them so you're not buying blind.
I paid £3300 for my 16v in Sep '05. Quite steep but I knew i was getting a 1 lady owner car with 70k and never wanted for anything.
Really it depends how much peace of mind you want.
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Well you shouldnt be paying more than 2000 for an absolute low mileage minter!
between 1500 and 1800 is a good range. Unless its got some good Mods!
Those places are the ones to look at plus ebay. When you do a seach on autotrader dont restrict the value or distance or as in my case there may well be one just below a value or just outside your miles etc.
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Thanks guys :wink:
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Ahhhh got it :grin:
Cheers Lee
nz is a cool place, with great cop free (mostly) twisty roads :cool:
No worries. If only it was the same over here!
Out of curiosity, are distances measured in km or miles in NZ? I've spent plenty of time Australia but I've never been to your wonderful country....
Hiya m8
Distances here are all in metric and dashes of cars too, my 8v mk3 is ex uk so it has miles on the dash.
Aussie is overated :grin: nz is much better! only 4million here, im a kiwi. And we like being the underdog :smiley: