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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: bulk66 on 23 December 2006, 14:05

Title: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 23 December 2006, 14:05

Hi all dose the mk3 have a common problem with sticking hand breaks in really cold weather. I parked my mk3 vr6 in works car park over night came out in morning to go home let off the hand break, pulled off and the rear breaks stuck on. I tryed moving back and forwards to free them but they were stuck solid, so i came back later that afternoon got in the car and drove off with no problems. I was thinking maybe the handbreak cable had got some moisture in it any ideas anyone....

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: boneybradley on 23 December 2006, 16:19

might be worth stripping the rear brakes as mk3 rear caliper's are known to seize..(Mk2's even worth so I believe) You can upgrade to mk4 caliper's which are less prone to seizeing but a good strip and clean can make your current one's better

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 23 December 2006, 19:02

Cheers mate. Do you know any one who has done the mk4 conversion, is it worth it and is it a b!tch to do........ :smiley:

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: boneybradley on 23 December 2006, 19:07

c and r do the rear caliper's and hose as a kit for mk3's and they are a direct replacement

try this link http://www.candrenterprises.co.uk/allparts.asp?catcode=B0&section=brakes&carmake=VW (http://www.candrenterprises.co.uk/allparts.asp?catcode=B0&section=brakes&carmake=VW) and select mk4 rear caliper's from the list

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 24 December 2006, 18:40

Mk3 calipers are not known to seize at all, unlike the mk2 calipers.
Your problem will be the little boot on the handbrake cable has broken or perished, and it is letting moisture in down the inner cable, this will freeze sticking the handbrake.

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 24 December 2006, 21:04

Cheers for that mate can i just replace the boot or will it just be as easy to just replace the whole cable.

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 24 December 2006, 23:14

You may be better off replacing the cables, i would have a closer look to see if it is the problem, and if you can repair the boot with a bit of glue.
Also you could try spraying some wd40 down the inside part of the cable.

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 24 December 2006, 23:20

Ok mate cheers will give that a try ......... :smiley:

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: rubjonny on 27 December 2006, 09:52

Early MK3 calipers are known to sieze, they're exactly the same as MK2 calipers :)
But it was only the first year or 2 of production they were fitted.  Get underneath and have a look at the calipers, if they have a great big spring on the outside they're the MK2 type, if not they're MK3.

As audi100quattro says it could be the cables, if they have a hole in the outer sheith(sp?) water gets in and will freeze if the temp drops, holding the handbrake on.

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 27 December 2006, 16:17

Cheers for that, Johnny to the rescue again ....... :smiley:

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: rubjonny on 27 December 2006, 17:03

well not really, ive just added some geeky information I've picked up over the years :grin:
I think mr audi100 has the answer in this case ;)

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 27 December 2006, 18:10

Is that all it is jonny just bits you have picked up and doing a bit of tinkering hear and there or do you work with vdubs coz you always seem to have the answers mate..... :smiley:

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Post by: rubjonny on 27 December 2006, 18:36

I have been known to dabble  :grin:

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 27 December 2006, 19:07

Thanks Jon  :wink:
Yes i stand corrected, very early mk3 calipers are the same as mk2's, these will seize.
I meant the proper mk3 calipers with the internal handbrake mechanism(no external spring).
Handbrake cables very commonly seize this time of year if moisture can get in...

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 27 December 2006, 19:45

OK chaps so are you saying that the really early vr6s used mk2 gti spec breaks or was there some other difference ie pads etc as i would of thought the vrs breaks had to be better due to the extra performance please enlighten me with your wisdom as i didn't know they used any mk2 bits on them... :grin: did they raid the mk2 parts bin on any other parts of the mk3....?

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: rubjonny on 27 December 2006, 19:53

all early MK3s with disc brakes will have got the MK2 style, the VR didn't get any special calipers at the rear or owt like that, they're all the same :)

At the front the later ones (95?) got 288mm brakes as an upgrade from the 280s fitted from the start of production.  But now we're drifting off topic  :grin:

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 27 December 2006, 22:26

OK mate cheers for the answer once again and i don't suppose you have a cheap good condition mk3 parcel shelf in your parts for sale collection do you .................cheers :grin:

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Post by: rubjonny on 28 December 2006, 11:00

fraid not :)

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Post by: patch900 on 12 January 2007, 10:11

Bulk66 try ebay for the parcel shelf, I was looking for various Mk3 golf stuff last week and saw at least 2 on there.

Title: Re: Frozen.......
Post by: bulk66 on 12 January 2007, 14:41

I know what your saying mate but there £30+ theres a scrap yard near me thats got one for £15 but I'm that busy i just have not got the time to go down there. Its nice when things get delivered to your door :grin: guess ill have to put some time a side. And its the top car on a pile of three and i don't fancy climbing to the top  :grin: