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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Gozza on 29 October 2006, 15:34

Title: Help required
Post by: Gozza on 29 October 2006, 15:34

Hi all,

Recently I got into my mark 2 16v on a 1990 and it would not start. It had been really struggling to start before this and when it went I assumed it was the starter motor.

Fitted a new one today (well second hand, was tested and worked apparently) and still the same problem. I am getting a clicking sound from relay 67 in the fuse box and also a clicking from the distributor. I took the cap off and used a circuit tester and there is a spark coming from the middle thingy in the cap about once ever 2 seconds or so. Also the dash lights up the oil battery and temp lights and again they flash in line with the clicking ???

Anyone got any ideas ?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: J.stafford16v on 29 October 2006, 15:49

The clicking noise is the solaniod on the starter, give it a smack with a piece of wood and a hammer. If it then starts after that motor is sh*gged aswell!!! :angry:

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: Thom89 on 29 October 2006, 15:54

Did you check battery condition? are all terminals tight?
Tom

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: shaft69 on 29 October 2006, 15:58

Sounds like duff battery to me mate!!

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: turbodub on 29 October 2006, 16:11

Quote from: shaft69 on 29 October 2006, 15:58

Sounds like duff battery to me mate!!

I concur.

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: Gozza on 29 October 2006, 16:11

Thanks for the quick replies.

I am unsure on the battery as was fitted when I bought it although all the terminals seemed tight at the time. When I bought the starter motor it came with the black thing on the side too so have replaced whole lot.

I thought it might be something to do with the earth I have heard a bit about before, where if trying to start and it starts badly it may be the earth to the gearbox or summat. Anyone know what this looks like/where its located ?  I can then take my working battery from my other car and try that if still does not work.

Again thanks in advance all.

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: turbodub on 29 October 2006, 16:23

The earth is on the gearbox bellhousing. Follow the thick braided cable from the battery negative terminal and you should locate it quite easily. Try charging your battery and see if it makes a difference, might also want to check your alternator connections while you are there.

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: Simpson on 29 October 2006, 17:46

aye thats sounds right check all earths to battery, and check charge with a mulitmeter  :smiley:

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: Gozza on 29 October 2006, 20:29

I will give this a go.

Out of interest, if it was the battery wouldn't the car just be very slow to turn over and then die ??

I hate the electrics on cars, always so many things that can go pete tong.

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: turbodub on 29 October 2006, 22:05

Quote from: Gozza on 29 October 2006, 20:29

I will give this a go.

Out of interest, if it was the battery wouldn't the car just be very slow to turn over and then die ??

I hate the electrics on cars, always so many things that can go pete tong.

No it won't. If the voltage drops below a certain level then the starter solenoid cannot activate and the starter will not turn at all.

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: Gozza on 29 October 2006, 22:07

Ah I see.

Thanks for clarifying I will try this asap.

=)

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: Gozza on 01 November 2006, 14:07

Well I swapped the battery for the known working one in my mark 3 and brrrrroooom.

Bastad, if only I knoew it was that simple before I changed the starter motor.

Anyone need a mk2 starter motor, known to work and in very good condition.

Offers :)

Thanks for your help all, very appreciated :)

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: Simpson on 01 November 2006, 17:19

Good news mate, remember its always something simple and now you have a spare starter,  :smiley:

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: Gozza on 01 November 2006, 18:39

Thanks again all.

With regards to the battery I took it off and put in my mark 3 and it would not start so clearly the battery. One thing I am unsure about is I tried to charge the battery but the charger says it is already full ?? If this is the case why wont it start the car ??

Title: Re: Help required
Post by: NewStu on 02 November 2006, 13:51

Duff battery. Just bin it. Or should i say dispose of it correctly my son!