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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Ryan on 21 October 2006, 21:19
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Hi all
has anyone have any idea how i go about this? I have electronic injectors lying spare and i will obviously need something like megasquirt but has anyone anymore info the can give me?
or does anyone know where i can get some more info?
i am going to try to change it and get it running for future mods to the car
cheers
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You'll need MK2 digifant injector inserts, these screw into the head with an allen key. I'm not sure what size they are though! (this is assuming you plan to use MK2 digi-shaped injectors though.
You'll also need a compatible fuel rail & FPR too, and you'll probably want a MK2 digi throttle body so you get the idle & WOT switches. Then you need to think about the airflow sensors you're going to need, and how you're going to attach them to your throttle body...
Oh and the ignition system will require some thought, I recon you'll need a MK2 digi dizzy with a hall sender in it, along with the plug that goes into it.
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:smiley: You should be able to find all you need to know about MegaSquirt here:-
http://www.megasquirt.info/
and here:-
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/megasquirt/
There's also a huge tread about it on vwvortex but the link I have is on my home pc, I just tried searching their forum but I couln't find it :embarassed: will post it up when I get home :smiley:
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I'm doing this conversion too but on a severe budget due to newborn baby.
There's a great thread here
http://www.clubgti.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=53889
which tells you everything.
Only thing not mentioned so far I think is lambda, which for a wideband is quite dear (relatively). about £150, more if you want a decent AFR gauge
I've already got some G60 injectors (still need to get the seats) off ebay
and I got a 16v auto Passat throttle body with Throttle position sensor. There's a guy called AdidasCU selling one on here. That's who i got mine from and he's very reliable and it's in US too so the dollar rate means its v cheap. That will help the conversion tremendously.
Be interesting to see how you go. I eventually plan on turboing mine, this is the 1st step.
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I eventually plan on turboing mine, this is the 1st step.
Me too :cool: :evil:
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Bahn Brenner are doing a 16v EFI fuel rail for $139.95 at the moment. Approximately 74 quid based on the current exchange rate!
http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_audi/Fuel_Rails/BBM_Billet_16V_Fuel_Rail_Kit.html
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dont do it!
i was down at racepower motorsport today as they used to be next door to where i work and jim was setting up my car, and in our conversation about what route to take with my engine, he said k jet is by far the better system if done properly especially for big power form the 16v unit - worth keeping in mind
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good point, take our very own mr slick's valver for example. thats still on k-jet with 190bhp normally aspirated
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isn't an ABF engine electronic? surely robbing an ABF set up has to be easy?
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from a mark 3? yea they are digifant but a bit more advanced with crazy sensors n sh!t
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good point, take our very own mr slick's valver for example. thats still on k-jet with 190bhp normally aspirated
190BHP - my arse!!
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hey dont shoot the messenger :grin:
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hey dont shoot the messenger :grin:
BANG BANG! :laugh: :laugh:
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i asked for that didnt I :grin:
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Take the point about Kjet being up to fuelling a fairly high powered NASP 16v, converting to EFI can't be a bad idea though as in addition to having a high revving NASP engine you have the potential to turbocharge, supercharge or fit throttle bodies and then remap in a couple of hours.
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good point, take our very own mr slick's valver for example. thats still on k-jet with 190bhp normally aspirated
So what is slick running to get this sort of power out of an N/A engine, mines had £9000 spent on it and its still only pushing 170bhp? (I didn't spend that picked it from ebay for £2000). :evil:
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slicks was an ex BRM engine. 2ltr 16v with some good head work etc not quite sure on the details.....
if i'd spent £9k on an engine id be gutted! a tuner i know has a 300bhp (now detuned to 250) 16v g60 and he says to replicate it would be about £10k, but thats fully worked and blue printed etc. how did the original guy justify £9k (and only get 170bhp?)?!
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He was an accountant,the head was gas flowed by tsr, with their pack A head, with G60 head gasket, lighted and balanced flywheel, suspension by c&r inc their mk3/4 top mounts as suspension is that hard. Front drilled and grooved disc's,with new hub's, bearings etc.... Uprated fuel pump and some other bits, haven't had it rolling roaded myself, but had a retune at psi, which has made it pull better thoughtout the range, and can keep up with a clio 182. Much to the dismay of them!!!!!
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you would of thought an accountant would be wise with his money as 9k is alot to spend on an engine. he could of got an Evo 4 or possible 5 for that amount of money, if power is what he was after.
I dont really know what slick's engine has had done but its an example of the power than can be achieved from running good old K-jet :wink:
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so £9k on the whole car or just the engine?
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so £9k on the whole car or just the engine?
£9000 on the whole car, but not a penny on an alarm or any spent on paint work!!!! Booked in for a respray next year, and might go for a bigger bottom end too (funds permitting).
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dont do it!
i was down at racepower motorsport today as they used to be next door to where i work and jim was setting up my car, and in our conversation about what route to take with my engine, he said k jet is by far the better system if done properly especially for big power form the 16v unit - worth keeping in mind
Strange because I was told exactly the opposite, namely that K-jet will struggle with fuel delivery over about 220bhp,
so you may be right if you are sticking to NA power as the Kjet is supposed to be more responsive than EFi BUT for REAL power ie mid to high 200s, then EFi wins hands down apparently.
My end aim is for around 280bhp, so EFi all the way for me I think.