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Title: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: dave_drummer on 10 October 2006, 11:29
Bought my golf 1.8t with a k&n induction kit already on.  Heard bad things about the k&n 1.8t combo.  What should I be buying?  Also heard the conical filters are a bit of a waste of time as the amount of heat coming off the turbo reduces the efficiency of the filter.  “Much better to buy a panel filter and keep the original air box to act as a heat shield!” (Shall remain unnamed) WhatÂ’s the deal boys? What do I buy and has anyone tried a cda?
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: >>Mart<< on 10 October 2006, 13:18
cda or a carbonio are expensive options but the best options
i have a pipercross filter kit on mine at the moment and it sounds cool and so far it has been running great picks up fine and does improve the midrange grunt slightly

oh and the k&n some people have experianced problems due to the oil in the K&N messing up the MAF sensor but then other people have had no problems at all
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 10 October 2006, 13:47
I have recently sold my CDA.  I didn't really have a problem with it, apart from I thought it suffered in the heat wave.  (This could've all been in my head, though (paranoid!!??))  Also, the car well might have suffered in the heat with a standard set-up - who knows??!!  I only sold it as I needed the cash.

I've since bought a Green replacement element, but can't honestly say I've experienced any gains over the standard filter (other than a FRACTION more noise!)
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: dave_drummer on 10 October 2006, 14:27
Cheers guys I think i'll get a cda.  Good skills Ivor! it's all about the BBS RC's!!
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: burna on 10 October 2006, 22:01
im runnin a standard airbox all fully  smoothed inside it with a greencotton panel filter, i then used 3" airducting from the front bumper to the airbox where its sealed into it, thus creating my own 'ram-air' type induction kit.

the car pulls alot harder with this set up than a cone filter and seems better on fuel.

burna :smiley:
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: dave_drummer on 10 October 2006, 23:23
DoesnÂ’t the standard box already have an air feeder pipe drawing air in from around the grill? If so are you saying itÂ’s better to make your own? Do you think this is a better option than a cda?
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 10 October 2006, 23:43
Yes it does, & well, it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than buying the CDA!!! :grin:

I suppose the theory is; that the original ducting is quite 'narrow', so I guess you could possibly benefit from getting more cold air in by using some larger ducting!  I think you'd probably be best off funneling the new ducting into the inside of the airbox, though, just as the original ducting goes inside the airbox!
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: dave_drummer on 10 October 2006, 23:49
Although cheaper is it better than a cda?
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: topher on 11 October 2006, 11:05
In a word, yes.

It was actually proven by taking maf metering results using vagcom by a member "GaryM", it'll be in an old post on here somewhere, you can probably find it using the search function.. or just take my word for it :tongue:
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: dave_drummer on 11 October 2006, 15:57
Cheers guys!!
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: burna on 12 October 2006, 10:00
il have a look today for an old airbox- ive used 3 in trial and error experiments.

if my camera is working il take some photos and show you mine Dave_Drummer.

(the airbox that is)
Title: Re: INDUCTION KIT CONICAL OR PANEL FILTER?
Post by: dave_drummer on 12 October 2006, 22:13
I look forward to it! (the picture of your air box)