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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: johntheboy on 20 September 2006, 17:06

Title: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: johntheboy on 20 September 2006, 17:06: looking around at the moment, seen a really nice gt tdi 150bhp but its on the expensive side at Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£9500 for one thats done 78k, however seen a 130 for Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£6500 with 80k and a 130bhp with 44k and thats Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£7900. Just not sure what to do or whether i should hang on a few weeks and wait for a 150 to turn up. Ideally id like one in black 3 door which the Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£9500 is.

Any advice is much welcome??

thanks

John
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: Rhyso on 20 September 2006, 19:13: best thing to do is to drive them both to see which one you like.

I haven't driven the 150 but obviously mid range grunt and the top end are improved over the 130 but there may be more lag.

alternatively get the 130 then get it re-mapped.

Just remember to tell your insurance :rolleyes:
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: GazB on 20 September 2006, 20:04: you will probably notice about 20bhp difference.

you want a 3 door black one you say, mint condition, stunning car?

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=46838.0
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 20 September 2006, 20:32: About 20bhp difference :smiley:
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: GazB on 20 September 2006, 21:02: Quote from: Mk1-Mad J - 16v on 20 September 2006, 20:32
About 20bhp difference :smiley:

As I Said :embarassed: :embarassed:

It is getting late :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: A7 UFO on 21 September 2006, 08:49: Having had a 130 and 150 I'd say buy a 130 and just get it remapped. The money you save can then be spent on the chassis.
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: johntheboy on 21 September 2006, 09:40: cheers gaz, looks great!!! it yours or a mates??

Im off to look at a GT tdi anniversary 2nite 60k, black, 3door 130bhp, Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£8k. fingers crossed eh? And i was fully expecting the '20bhp' remarks, lol.

john
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: A7 UFO on 21 September 2006, 10:44: I thought the PD anniversarys were only 150bhp...?
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: johntheboy on 21 September 2006, 11:46: i thought this?? as i understood it any gt tdi's were a 150?? if this is true its just an added bonus :)
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: johntheboy on 21 September 2006, 11:51: and sorry for sounding dumb.... but when you say PD what does this mean?

cheers

john
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: GazB on 21 September 2006, 16:29: All anniversarry golf TDi's are 150bhp and PD = Pumpe Duse and translates as 'unit injector' - a device that supplants the old distribution pump as the source of back-pressure at the injector nozzle. In effect, PD injectors each have their own little cam-operated pump to produce even higher pressure (30,000 psi) than a common rail system, which uses a thin, tubular reservoir to contain pressurised fuel for feeding on demand to each of the injectors in turn.

The higher the pressure, the more effective and leaner becomes the upper-cylinder burn. Consequently unit injectors (PD) produce more power and torque for a given measure of fuel without cost to fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. As an example, the 130 bhp TDi PD engine in the test car, for the same 1.9 litres as the TDi unit it replaces, generates 13 per cent more power (130 bhp) and nine percent more torque yet returns an identical 52.3 mpg on the combined cycle.

So there :nerd:
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: golfpro on 21 September 2006, 17:08: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:

erm, good knowledge? :huh: :laugh:
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: GazB on 21 September 2006, 20:40: not - i nicked it from another site :smug:
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: golfpro on 21 September 2006, 20:51: thats even better then!
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: GazB on 21 September 2006, 20:53: sounded good tho eh!! :grin:
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: Chupacabra on 13 October 2006, 21:35: PD means Pump Duse. Some techy thing which makes the TDI PD really good... :huh:

Never driven a 130 but have a 150 and reckon it'll eat most things alive! Certainly Passat 1.8T's :evil: More torque than a Porsche Boxter remember!

Oh... and a kitted Escort GTi got it's pants pulled down by my ubermonster but he nearly took, himself, the car coming in the opposite direction, and me in a fit of road rage as he roared past on the wrong side of the road because I made him look like a tit! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: Mantamad on 15 October 2006, 22:59: Quote from: Chupacabra on 13 October 2006, 21:35
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Oh... and a kitted Escort GTi got it's pants pulled down by my ubermonster but he nearly took, himself, the car coming in the opposite direction, and me in a fit of road rage as he roared past on the wrong side of the road because I made him look like a tit!Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â :rolleyes:

They tend not to like it when they get out-run by an oil burner :grin: :grin:

He may have got past you eventually by driving like an ar$e but the damage was done (to his ego)
Title: Re: will i notice a huge amount of difference between the 130bhp and 150bhp??
Post by: Chupacabra on 15 October 2006, 23:16: I would have more than damaged chavboy's ego if I'd have caught him (no angry smiley... :huh:). Lucky for him he went a different way at the roundabout...