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Title: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Scott_150 on 18 September 2006, 21:15: Hi,

Im getting a mk golf 1.6 16v soon and i would like to find out whether its really worth buying an induction kit for it? ..i know they sound a bit more beefy but will my hp increase that much? Also do you think its worth purchasing a new panel filter for it when i get it, ive seen the K n N ones and they look good, would the two together work even better i would guess so because the air coming in would be more 'crisper'??

any thoughts..?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Organisys on 18 September 2006, 21:19: Forget it, drill the lower half of the airbox and get a k&n panel filter
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 18 September 2006, 21:26: (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/Themes/themis/images/gnome/search.gif)
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Scott_150 on 18 September 2006, 21:44: Slick did you reply? lol

and you think its just worth stick filter in then will this gimme the beefy sound though?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: takethefifth on 19 September 2006, 01:32: Slick was just letting you know that this topic has been covered loads and a search of this or the Mk2 section should bring up lots of threads about people asking the same question!

Short answer - The general consensus is that a panel filter with a drilled airbox (search for drilling instructions) will give you the best compromise of performance/noise. The induction kit will be a bit louder but MAY suffer as it drags in lots of HOT air from the engine bay.

Edit: Forgot the title of the topic! - Any performance increase will be neglible on a standard engine.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 19 September 2006, 04:55: performance increase will be nil, (at least nothing noticable)

sound increase will be noticable, but again will do nothing for the car apart from let people know you have an induction kit
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Scott_150 on 19 September 2006, 07:28: Ahh right thanks for that mate. So it is possible to put them both in if i wanted to? i think im just going to stick a paneel filter in and put rest of money towards other area like wheels, ice etc

Thanks
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Daz... on 19 September 2006, 07:32: just put the panel filter in and do like you say...spend money on wheels etc..
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Scott_150 on 19 September 2006, 17:24: cool, i would like my car to sound nice but not too in your face kinda thing so a panel filter should do this ok?

maybe the extra money could go towards a exhaust system.. hehe..
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 19 September 2006, 18:22: Only noticeable increase in performance will be in the mid-range revs not at the top. The panel filter should help to remove the usual flat spot, and increase throttle response.
It does depend on what car, on an 8v gti mid-range increase may not really be noticeable, but it will be noticeable on say a vr6.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Scott_150 on 19 September 2006, 18:41: Oh right cool, i went to my local mod shop today n should be able to get panel filter and induction kit for about 130..but may just get panel filter, that will cost 50 the car im getting is the 1.6 16v! :grin:

Cant wait!!
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: takethefifth on 20 September 2006, 00:49: You can't put a panel filter AND an induction kit on! :grin: It's a one or the other situation as the induction kit replaces your standard airbox! :wink:

Get the panel filter! The induction kit may sound louder (like mine does :evil:) but after a year i can confirm it gives no improvement of power that you can feel really so why bother?

Really i should swap back to my standard airbox, but.. i just can't help my smiles with my window down, low revs, foot to the floor in a tunnel! Personal amusement only you understand, i don't do it look hard! :laugh:
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Stu.750 on 20 September 2006, 00:51: i remember butcherin a nissan 200sx KnN on my 8V the noise it made n the looks it got were unreal
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 20 September 2006, 04:01: Quote from: Scott_150 on 19 September 2006, 18:41
the car im getting is the 1.6 16v! :grin:

I don't think it is somehow.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Rhyso on 20 September 2006, 07:44: Quote from: Slick#13 on 20 September 2006, 04:01
Quote from: Scott_150 on 19 September 2006, 18:41
the car im getting is the 1.6 16v!Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â :grin:

I don't think it is somehow.

it is cos he's getting a MKIV 1.6 16V. he's been posting in the MKIV section about what car to get:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=47047.0
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 20 September 2006, 09:22: Thats the 100bhp engine.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: tobz. on 20 September 2006, 09:32: You mean the 105bhp engine 6

http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/carreviews/review.aspx?model_id=1031&page=8

The 8v 1.6 mkIV produces 100bhp, looking at one for the missus tomorrow night.
Was going for the 16v but there are reports that the valve train is proving unreliable. For the sake of 5bhp we are getting her an 8v now instead.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 20 September 2006, 12:06: Ok, didn't know that one :embarassed:
The 2.0 8v is only 115bhp, not much difference between all of them then.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 20 September 2006, 12:16: gotta love it when i'm being a skim-reading f**ksock. :cool:
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Scott_150 on 20 September 2006, 22:34: Hmm yeah thats why im kinda drawn to the induction kit.. i love the 'humming' sound lol jsut dont want it to sound to OTT, liek when your walking through town and you hear this really loud car you turn round and its a granada or something with the driver wearing a burberry cap lol.

yeah im getting the 1.6 16v 105bhp yeah i was suprised when i read about the 2.0 being 115bhp!

Like i said earlier.. i think? i can get the induction kit for 80quid and the panel filter for 50 im tempted to go with the induction kit but hmm... im not sure.. :undecided:
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: imrangti16v on 20 September 2006, 23:12: I'd say get the bmc cda this should increse the performance and give you better sound. It won't even suck in hot air cos it's sealed like a airbox.
Title: Re: Is there much difference in performance?
Post by: Scott_150 on 21 September 2006, 18:23: bmc cda? whats that short for? sorry for being picky but im new to most of this!

Thanks,