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Title: need some help
Post by: jadegreen gti on 02 January 2004, 15:34
Thanks you for the ideas about making my 2L golf quicker i like the sound off the 2.2 throttle body of AUDI 90 but is that an easy job to do ? and its the case of trying to get hold of one !!!!!! sorry if im slow im still getting used to this web site  :-[
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: kniterider on 02 January 2004, 15:48
thought it would be quick enough as it was!!!, dunno really a 2ltr head, gas flowed with a fast road cam, 'chipped' (pending on model) performance exhaust and filter etc, then theres turbos and superchargers and nos, many things to make it go faster but it depends on how much money you have!!!!youve got a good base to start on though! ;D
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Gozza on 02 January 2004, 17:12
Yeah and remember you need to stop too  :D
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 02 January 2004, 17:41
How about bore out the 2l bottom end to about a 2.1 or 2.2. Get the rotating assembly balanced to smooth things out a bit and free up some revs. go with a 2 liter head that has been flowed with bigger valves. Intake cam from the 1.8l 16v (KR series engine) Gasket match the intake and a 4 branch mani to the head to smooth out flow abit. Have the intake flowed and fitted with a 2.2 audi throttle body. Lastly scrap the factory injection system and go for a Jenvey direct to head injection setup with a stand alone ECU. Should be good for a bit more power and a lot lighter wallet.  hp is expensive.  ;D

Brad
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Blue MK2 on 02 January 2004, 18:12
Saw this and thought of you  ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451902071&category=9889 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451902071&category=9889)
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 02 January 2004, 18:21
That would look good in your car blue! Think you should go for it ;)
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: richandhazel on 02 January 2004, 18:27
Saw this and thought of you  ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451902071&category=9889 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451902071&category=9889)

I saw that earlier today........thought it might be a good mod for my mk1.
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Blue MK2 on 02 January 2004, 18:34
would a tall block fit? ???
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: richandhazel on 02 January 2004, 18:35
Not sure.......have to wait and see what 'vr6 says, he should know.........anyone else know?
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Blue MK2 on 02 January 2004, 18:38
hehe. VR knows his stuff enit
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 02 January 2004, 18:48
would a tall block fit? ???

Should fit. Isn't a tall block the one fitted to the late mk3 golfs?
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: MK1_BOY on 02 January 2004, 19:38
Get a MK1... ;)
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: richandhazel on 03 January 2004, 12:11
hehe. VR knows his stuff enit

He sure does ;)
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: richandhazel on 03 January 2004, 12:14
would a tall block fit? ???

Should fit. Isn't a tall block the one fitted to the late mk3 golfs?

Doesn't look like it will fit, just found this thread:-

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?board=6;action=display;threadid=3348;start=msg18867#msg18867
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Blue MK2 on 03 January 2004, 12:22
a shame  :(
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: richandhazel on 03 January 2004, 12:31
Good job I didn't have the money to rush out and buy that engine :)
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: golfvr6 on 03 January 2004, 12:44
The tall block out of the mk3 won't fit without mods.
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 03 January 2004, 14:02
To bad for that. I should have figured though. One of my mates has an audi 80 that he is having a 2.0 16v from a 97 golf put into to. What a pain in the Arse they are going through with it just to get it all in there.

Here is a couple of pics of his Car. It is an Audi 80 4 door on a C reg. He has had it for over 10 years now and it is in excellent shape. The only downfall is the old engine had well over 200,000 on it and it finally let go last summer. He was going to have another 1.8 put in and after taliking to those doing the work he decided on a 2.0 liter 16v engine through the Audi's auto box. Suppose to be done in a couple More weeks.

(http://users.fireflyuk.net/~bgodkin/nickaudi2.jpeg)

(http://users.fireflyuk.net/~bgodkin/nickaudi.jpeg)
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: richandhazel on 03 January 2004, 14:26
Wow that fills the engine bay as well as the old 2.2, 5 cylinder lump I used to have in my Audi coupe GT (same front end).
Be interesting to hear how your mate finds it with the new engine.........got to be a serious improvement on a 1.8, but I wonder how it would have compared with a 2.2.....that was a quick car.
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 03 January 2004, 16:03
Going to be interesting to see it when it is done. I can't believe the amount of work that has gone into it. They got the engine in and discovered that the bonnet wouldn't close. Whoops. lol. After that they milled spacers to lower the crossmember and built a new front mount to drop the engine and trans lower in the chassis. I think all it really lacks is little things like the throttle cable, kickdown cable, etc. It now has a custom built 4 branch on it going into a custom stainless exhaust. I don't think they know what they are doing with the induction yet as it comes out about 6 inches from the core support. lol. Hopefully he will have it back in a couple weeks.
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: mk1 on 03 January 2004, 17:05
Wow, what a lot of work  :o, the 9a engine is the one to go for as the block height is the same as the 1800's. Must have paid a few ???'s for the ABF motor and all the goodies. Let us know how it goes when it's finished. ;)
Steve.
Title: Re:need faster car
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 03 January 2004, 18:58
They cut him a pretty good deal actually. He let them have it in August to start work and they are charging him about 1500 total for the whole bang. Engine and all. A hell of a lot of work considering the Audi is a longitudinal engine and the 2.0 liter was Transverse mounted in the golf. lol. Alot of little problems have been arising they have to get by. Can't wait to see the finished product. The shop he is using does some nice work if anyone is interested but their back log is a mile long.  :)