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General => General discussion => Topic started by: GemGTI on 29 August 2006, 13:20
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Ok....
So I took my car back to the guys, they called me to say they've thoroughly checked the engine and its running fine. As for the horn/break issue, they've looked at my fuse box and said its all hanging loose and its hazzardous! (even though I got it all re wired in March!) Need fuse box securing and a new fuel relay! So the horn thing is to do with the fuse box! Also, I noticed I couldn't get it into 5th gear at all, so they looked at that and said it needs a new clutch, cable and linkage which off the top of his head, he's quoted £350 to £400 to sort. AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!! :cry: Also they said The engine mounts are shot, the rubbers are swelling or something? :undecided: so need new engine mounts to get it to run as smooth as poss. Should that have been included in the rebuild does anyone know? I don't know what do do!?
Any ideas/suggestion/opinions welcome as usual.
p.s anyone want to make me an offer for a much loved mk1 golf? (probably not!)
Gem :cry: :cry: :cry:
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stick with it gem! think you need to move garages too! :shocked:
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they should have inspected things like the fusebox, clutch and engine mounts when they were putting it back together and made some recommendations.. but it wouldnt have been part of an engine rebuild quote. you might aswell stick with it now.. gone too far just to give it all up.
come down to E38 this weekend and get reinspired :cool:
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Yep as Toph says!
And yes move garages! That quote for a clutch is extortionate!
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if ur comin gem, let me know as i can meet u before i go to dianes! :cool:
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Yep as Toph says!
And yes move garages! That quote for a clutch is extortionate!
Out of interest, what would be a more realistic quote?
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Gem, if the fusebox needs securing then that shouldn't be too expensive to do, it's the re-wiring that costs, but take it back to the people who put it in as they should have done all that. Your fuel relay is about £20 from GSF as I bought one the other week so don't let anyone sell you one for more than that. As for the clutch, my cab's in the garage at the moment getting a new one so I'll let you know how much that is when I get my bill. A clutch cable will be less than a tenner to buy and a decent mechanic can fit one in about 15 minutes, the AA did mine on another car at the side of the road. I dont know much about the linkage though.
Ring Ladyroyd up (the guys who did your waxoil) and ask them for a quote on some of these things. They'll tell you whether it needs all these things or not, speak to Darren and tell him that I've recommended you to them, (Paul Gibson golf cab). :smiley: They are not VW specialists but they will be honest and if it doesn't need doing they wont do it, they're that busy that they don't need to rip people off.
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Come down to E38 in it, and i am sure me and a few others can have a look and see what needs doing, as for not getting 5th that is a simple re-alignment of the gear linkages, it has nothing to do with the clutch. Engine mounts are an easy check aswell.
I cannot see how the horn and fusebox are related through the brake peddle.
Deffo don't give up on it, there are a few of us close-ish to you in leeds, (i will be in staffs as of the 10th of sept) so just give it time and don't get too down about it. If a clutch does need doing, then it is pretty straight forward, just time consuming. Hence the normal £200-£250 quote.
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Yep as Toph says!
And yes move garages! That quote for a clutch is extortionate!
Out of interest, what would be a more realistic quote?
What Slick just said.
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Ahh the good-ole new clutch/cable/linkage etc... :laugh: I remember when I heard that one :undecided: had me worried til I spoke to someone who actually knew what they're talking about :smiley:
DO NOT BUY A CLUTCH FROM THESE MONKEYS!!!! Chances are you're not getting 5th due to the linkage bushes being worn, 5th is the first one to go, its a £5 DIY job :wink:
I'd get a second opinion on the rubbers too, they normally harden or spilt, not heard of them expand before :undecided: - A worn rear engine/gearbox mount will give you trouble with 5th gear as the mechanism technically connects the gearbox to the cars body - best to get that sorted (Quite easy to DIY too :cool: just put a jack under the engine and swap the old for the new, its 3 nuts)
:shocked: That clutch quote is metal, a clutch costs about £50 and its 2-3 hours labour, I bet he was thinking of his summer holidays when he came up with that one :laugh:
You should get that mechanic of yours to sort out all the work he's fuc&ed up then find yourself a real mechanic :wink:
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ok
the quote he gave me (which i didn't realise) was for clutch, gear linkage and clutch cable and engine mounts and labour. All in £460 so I gave him the go ahead. I know someone who's just spent £390 getting their clutch done (not the same guys) and that was a friend doing it on the cheap so I figured this was an okish price for everything. Then when thats done, I'm gonna spend a very long time looking for a good garage in Leeds who specialise in vw's and wont rip me off. Thanks for advice gibby. Might go back to Ladyroyd if I don't find any closer to home. Someone reccomended IVC on Globe Road in Leeds. They specialise in VW and Audi so might give them a go. Anyone heard of them?
My problem is I don't have one garage who I always use who can do everything. My other problem is I don't know when I'm being ripped off until its too late. I think these guys who are doing my engine are ok really, just didn't want to keep adding stuff to the cost as I said I was on a budget. They are sorting out the scratch and as for the horn, they said something about the fuse box not being secure, I need a new fuel relay? And something about a bad earth, but I can't really remember (my brain only holds so much information when it comes to cars, sorry! :rolleyes:) He said you just have to breathe on it and the fuel pump cuts out? or something? Doesn't make sense to me (as usual). So he's telling me whoever did the fuse box wants shooting! As far as I was aware, the fuse box was sorted. So I also need a good auto electrician!
oh its a never ending money pit and I don't know when to stop. Money will run out soon :sad:
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Gem I really think you are being ripped off!
If these jokers do fit a new clutch insist on seeing an invoice or at the very least a delivery note for the parts and get it checked to see if they are the correct parts for your car!
Clutch & linkage should be about £200
Engine mounts no more than £100 assuming there are 3 and they do all of them.
Fix fuse box and a relay £30.
So they are way over!
Sounds to me as if they are charging you to repair the scratch plus a bit more!
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Some of these places charge you for work they dont even carry out so when you pick the car up tell them you want to look at the parts they removed and dont accept any bullsh!t.
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Errr.... labour charge len.
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The prices I was suggesting included Labour! :tongue:
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All 3 engine mounts changed for 100 quid?  :huh:
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A clutch fitted and linkage realigned for £200, perhaps at a backstreet garage.
Engine mounts bought and replaced for £100?
Dreaming.
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Like myself, Mr.Slick is from Surrey, and so appreciates how expensive things actually are in the real world :grin:
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Like myself, Mr.Slick is from Surrey, and so appreciates how expensive things actually are in the real world :grin:
I never EVER thought i would hear myself saying this, but i do actually agree with corin.
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I know they are charging £30 an hour for labour. U think this is about right?
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Like myself, Mr.Slick is from Surrey, and so appreciates how expensive things actually are in the real world :grin:
I never EVER thought i would hear myself saying this, but i do actually agree with corin.
:cool: :grin:
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That sounds fine, infact slightly cheaper than normal, as dealer prices are usually 80-120 bucks an hour. Non dealership garages are usually around £40-60 per hour. So you are getting a pretty nice deal on the labour.
What i would consider is buying in all the parts cheaply for yourself, then taking them to the garage, and getting them to fit them, so basically get the clutch (with the release bearing plate), possibly uprate it to a sachs sports DO NOT GET A LUK ONE, they are sh!t. Get the mounts from either one of the guys at ECP in leeds or ring GSF and see what they can do them for. Fuel relay as gib said only £20, and then see how much the quote will come down. Might save you roughly a ton or so.
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Good idea slick but I just don't have the time to sort all that out I'm so busy at work I don't even have time for a luch break. Plus, as you can probably gather I'm not very clued up so would probably end up ordering the wrong parts. I will check with them about which clutch the are getting though what is a LUK? Didn't realise there were different ones! :rolleyes: Thanks for advice :smiley:
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GSF do sachs clutches, which are o.e.
Why are luk clutches so bad ?
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Basically there are 3 main makers of clutches, sachs (O.E.) ,LUK, and valeo. you want a sachs one.
LUK ones are naff, as i find they are not very well made, and tend to end up being redundant in no time whatsoever, i remember a few people off here fitting them and then a few months later complaining that the clutch was fooked again. Sachs ones i have never heard a bad thing about.
Gem, pm the details of your motor to me and i will do some hunting tomorrow, see what the best prices are i can find.
I.E. engine size, year, etc all that stuff.
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Thanks slick but I think they are going to order it tomorrow, so I was just gonna ring them in the morn and check they don't get a LUK one. Thanks for offering though. So you think £460 is a fair price for all that work doing?
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I would say so aye, in fact, just totting it up i came to a rough figure a bit more than that.
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forgot to mention they arn't doing the fuse box. Gonna leave that for now unless this is gonna be pittance in comparison? I don't think they are auto electricians so not sure what to do about that one :undecided:
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blimey gem you really don't have any luck do you! but like someone said you've gone so far with it now you have to keep it going!!
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blimey gem you really don't have any luck do you! but like someone said you've gone so far with it now you have to keep it going!!
Yeah I know. Just trying to figure out where I'm gonna get the money from! Im only on a weeny wage :sad: I need to win the lottery or something! Might have to morgage my car and live in that instead of buying a house! :laugh:
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^^ don't say that! sponge off your boyfriend or something... or get him to learn about all things mechanical and get him to fix it for you!!
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Does the clutch actually slip or does he just suspect the clutch because of the 5th gear problem? as its far more likeley to be a combination of the bushes and engine mounts :smug:
If they're sorting things out and they did a good job of the engine then maybe you should stick with them :undecided: better the devil you know and all that, just be sure you know or have a good idea what needs and specify what you want done before you give it to them :smiley:
As for the electrics, I'm sure you used to them by now, it'll probably fix itself :laugh:
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The clutch has been stiff for a while but its recently got really stiff. Then It wouldn't go into 5th gear at all. Then it would with a lot of effort, then it wouldn't again. I also have trouble with 1st and reverse.
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Thanks for advice gibby. Might go back to Ladyroyd if I don't find any closer to home. Someone reccomended IVC on Globe Road in Leeds. They specialise in VW and Audi so might give them a go. Anyone heard of them?
I need a new fuel relay?
You're welcome. A lad at work who drives Audi's recommended IVC to me, I've not actually used them myself but he always said good things about them. They're not in Globe Road anymore though as I passed them the other day and the units where they were are shut down. There's some signs saying where they've moved to but they were too far away to read.
You may not need a fuel relay, the connections probably just need a bit of a sand down with some sandpaper as the connections get sh1tted up, it's happened to me too.