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Title: b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: workhorse '90 8v on 30 December 2003, 15:18
when i bought this golf the owner said that the alarm/immobiliser had been disconnected..

I wasn't bothered, we live in a very low crime area..

Anyway, now the damn thing keeps immobilising the car with no obvious way of de-immobilising it!

Hence my car is now sitting there and i havn't a clue what to do? ???

there is no power to the starter motor?

i found a dodgy earth from the immobiliser, connected it, the car ran again until the next day!

i disconnected the earth and the car started!!?

now the starter motor wont turn whether the earth is connected or not?

(it isn't a dodgy starter motor, as i have a spare)

what can i do? only thing i can think of is take the entire alarm/immobiliser system out!   a long job!?

any ideas ? :)
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: Blue MK2 on 30 December 2003, 15:21
i think u triggerd the immobilizer by earthing it ???
do you have a immobilizer key? press the button on the keypad with the ignition on. worth a try
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: workhorse '90 8v on 30 December 2003, 15:26
no key !!

there is a key slot on the unit in the engine bay ?

the whole thing has dodgy wiring, i'm not looking forward to trying to sort it out!

maybe someone out there knows a simple bypass method???
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: Blue MK2 on 30 December 2003, 15:29
ask RIDER lol,

Best thing to do is take the alarm boxes etc out of the car before you bypass the immobalizer. Less complicated that way
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 30 December 2003, 19:38
When I bought my GTI last fall it had an old VW full closure alarm installes. 2 days later ity armed and I didn't have an alarm fob or anything for it. I wound up carefully going through and removing every stich of the old alarm and going back to original before installing the new alarm. Sounds like a pain in the a55 but it works out better in the long run. My old immobiliser part of the alarm had 2 parts to it. One part went to the ignition side and the other to the cranking side. If it is dodgy one side or the other may work as it pleases. They are actually cut into the wires and you will have to follow the wiring from the immobiliser key panel to the control box. From there find where it splices into the vehicle wiring and join the original wires back together. It is better to solder and shrinkwrap these but crimp connector and tape should also work fine. Hope this helps. :)
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: workhorse '90 8v on 31 December 2003, 11:24
thanx 8916v

that is the plan now, to follow every wire and reconnect the originals.

best get crank up the soldering iron then!  I'm missing my golf,  got a k&n induction for xmas from the girly (aint she sweet!) - have hardly used it yet!
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 31 December 2003, 17:40
Thats cool. I didn't get anything car related for Christmas so I am going to buy myself some wheels. lol. Hope you get it sorted soon. I'm pretty sure it is a dodgy immob causing the problem.   ;D
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: workhorse '90 8v on 31 December 2003, 17:49
the immobiliser/alarm came out simply, dint take longat all..

not sure it was the prob tho..
as you've read in my post in the garage!
 
i'll get a starter switch asap, and see where it goes from there..

all good fun, and learning at the same time.. :)
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 31 December 2003, 18:46
the immobiliser/alarm came out simply, dint take longat all..

not sure it was the prob tho..
as you've read in my post in the garage!
 
i'll get a starter switch asap, and see where it goes from there..

all good fun, and learning at the same time.. :)


I saw that. I was sure it would wind up being the immob but it sounds like you have it tracked down to the switch or coil. I'd go with the switch I think. Coil doesn't affect cranking just sparking. :) Hopefully that will get it. I know what you mean about learning. I am always learning something new it seems.
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: Speedydub on 01 January 2004, 15:58
When I got my golf it was fitted with a non standard immobiliser, which worked fine to begin with. Then one day it stopped working.

In the end I thought 'sod it' and called out a local alarm co to rip it out. It took the guy literally two minutes to wire round it and take it out. sorted.

Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 01 January 2004, 19:31
When I got my golf it was fitted with a non standard immobiliser, which worked fine to begin with. Then one day it stopped working.

In the end I thought 'sod it' and called out a local alarm co to rip it out. It took the guy literally two minutes to wire round it and take it out. sorted.



Makes you feel safe doesn't it. lol

Brad
Title: Re:b@stard immobiliser!
Post by: workhorse '90 8v on 07 January 2004, 12:07
Great news!  Car finally starts!!!! ;D

Various problems in the end.

A - starter motor fcked.
B - TCI-H switch unit bust.
C - possably the imobiliser causing probs..?

The immobiliser came out no problem.  Most wires were tapped so only needed disconecting, infact onlt one wire was chopped so no prob reconnecting..

The local scrappy aint exactly huge, so after not finding the right starter on the shelf, we managed to pull one off of a Seat Toledo of all things!!  As it happens exactly the same Bosch unit, only one electrical plug being different..   And the car was written off at 40k so the starter is in good nick.. Result for 20 bucks!!

Thanx for everyones help.  I've learnt loads.  Can change a starter motor in half hour now, lol !!