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Title: mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: vwnut.ant on 28 December 2003, 17:00
hello all i have a dilemma ...i have just bought from  a mate some infinity reference speakers and crossovers for my mk 3 golf gti 1996 colour concept

i have installed the passenger side fine and all works ..

but when ive come to the drivers side only two of the 4 wires that are there for the tweeters are live??
why is this ??
and also the wire from the door pocket to connect the other speaker is also dead too??
ive tried all i can think of .........

is there anyone who has had a similar problem or is it just me being a muppet and not knowing what im doing

please please help

thanks
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Blue MK2 on 28 December 2003, 17:05
have you connected the speakers to the wires to find out, or did you dive in with a volt meter?

Im sure the 2 live ones are (+) and the dead ones are(-) ???

Did you have the sterio on when u tested this? loose connections?
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 28 December 2003, 17:18
if not check the output from the head unit, you could get some bullet connectors and re wire steaight from the heaf unit with new wires  :)
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Dizzie on 28 December 2003, 18:14
volt meter! blah! a bulb and a speaker for me ;D

What was the question again? oh yes...

Best thing to do is rewire the whole system using decent speaker cable as the VW stuff ain't that good when you want clarity. It's only like 40p a metre so worth doing.
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 28 December 2003, 18:37
not that hard to do either!
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Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Gozza on 29 December 2003, 11:58
Its not as bad as what the above say :o poor chap. :-\

You need to find out if the stereo is working properly first, no point rewiring it all only to find the channel on the stereo is blown and you need a new one.

Best thing to do is pull the stereo out and check the wiring from there, a speaker will do but a volt meter better. If there is power/sound here then u will have to trace the wiring. At least if you do it this way you will limit the hastle.

Also I would not bother rewiring to be honest, unless you are planning to create an award wining system of course  ;D
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: vwnut.ant on 29 December 2003, 17:50
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR REPLIES
ANSWER WAS --THE WIRE IN THE DOOR HAD SPLIT AND THIS IS WHY I HAD NO POWER ?, FOUND THIS OUT AFTER TAKING HALF OF DASH APART ?!?
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BUT????
AS I WAS DOING THIS I DID NOTICE THE WIRING FROM VW IS POO ...BUT HOW AN EARTH DO YOU PUT NEW WIRING IN THERE THOUGH AS YOU SUGGESTED ??

WHEN YOU OPEN THE BLACK RUBBER UP ALL THAT IS THERE IS A BIG TERMINAL WITH ALL THE CONNECTORS ETC??..THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ANY NEW WIRING TO GO THROUGH THE DOOR??AS I WAS GOING TO DO UNTIL I FOUND THE SPLIT WIRE

BUT WHEN I DO UPGRADE HOW AN EARTH DO I GET ANY NEW WIRES THROUGH THERE , PUTTING THE WIRING IN ISNT THE PROBLEM IS THAT BLOODY WEIRD LOOM??

GOD IM A PAIN ARENT I

HELP ???
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 29 December 2003, 17:53
hmmm....
nothing that complicated on a mk2!
you could find out which ones on the clip relate the the speakers and just connect the wires to these, then run new wires to the headunti and connect them to the old wires as close to the ISO block as possible.

alternatively find a hole in the door,near the hinge, put a grommet in it, and run the wires thru that
 :)
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: vwnut.ant on 29 December 2003, 17:59
YEAH I KNOW MY MK2 WAS EASY TO DO THIS TOO.. VW ARE A PAIN ..

MMM I DONT WANA BE UNCONNECTING ALL THOSE WIRES IN THE LOOM CAUSE KNOWING ME I WILL BLOW OR LOOSE SOMETHING ?.....I MADE AN ATTEMPT TO DRILL A HOLE TODAY FOR A NEW SPEAKER WIRE BUT THE METAL IS SOLID AND THERES NO ROOM ON THE LOOM AS THE CONNECTERS TAKE IT ALL UP ..ID HAVE TO RUN WIRES OUTSIDE THIS LOOM AND THAT MITE INTERFERE WITH THE DOOR OR CUT THE WIRES ?.

COS IM GONNA AMP THESE SPEAKERS SOON -ISH AND THIS PROBLEM IS GONNA ARISE , COS IF YOUR AMPING THEM YOU WANT THE BEST SPEAKER WIRE NOT VW 40 P POO STUFF

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO HAS PUT NEW WIRING IN THERE MK3 OR KNOWS RE THIS ?


Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 29 December 2003, 18:21
is trhere no blanking grommet any where on the door?
it may be you have to get rid of the connector thing by splicing the wires together then running the speaker wires thru there
dont know about mk3's really sorry
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Dizzie on 29 December 2003, 23:43
When I put my mk3 dash in I ran my speaker wires tidy along the back of the bulkhead. There are a load of little clips to hold wires out the way and tidy.
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: vwnut.ant on 30 December 2003, 07:39
YEAH THATS THE EASY BIT MATE , MK3 DOORS HAVE NO ROOM WHATSO EVER TO THREAD NEW WIRING THROUGH THEM THOUGH??AS THERES A STUPID LOOM INSTEAD OF JUST WIRES COMING THROUGH

SO IM TRYING TO TACKLE THIS DILEMMA

MITE JUST PAY STEREO SHOP TO DO IT AND LET THEM WORRY BOUT IT ??
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: Gozza on 30 December 2003, 09:41
Nah dont to that, they will charge u sh!te loads and will have no love towards ya mota !!
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: vwnut.ant on 30 December 2003, 16:25
ive had 6 years of love with my vws but even im baffled as what to do ere , better giving it to someone who knows what there doing?..........
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: dubaudio1 on 02 January 2004, 17:01
hi
i`ve got mk3.i`ve done my wiring all around.i`s not so dificult put the cable to the front doors as you sed.when you take of the black ruber you`ve got wiring loom(something like that)you have to dril a hole in it.ther is a place with no cable in it.i`v than like this.so sorted :D.
sorry for speling i`m not english.
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: vwnut.ant on 02 January 2004, 19:07
ah rite ,ive not really payed that much attention to the wiring there i just saw all the connecters and thought no chance ??

i will have to have a closer look then wont i

thanks
.....
Title: Re:mk 3 speakers URGENT HELP WANTED
Post by: lloyd_mckee on 11 January 2004, 22:36
new wire can be fitted by drilling hole in a / b post and door anf itting gromets and then zip tie cable to origional loom to keep it out the way ....be sure to also use a good sheath for the cable
 ;D