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General => Cosmetic and bodywork matters => Topic started by: cupra20v.t on 15 August 2006, 09:08
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i have mocked this dash up into the car i can get it to fit easy but............
the glove box will not sit flush or even go into the slot as the mk3 golf main beam/dash support runs across the gap.
the beam is probably a support for the car as it is bolted in from inside the door jams with some rather large torx bolts. the only way around this i think is to cut out the section of the beam that is buggering up the glove box fitment and re weld in some metal/or bars that will go around the glove box.
or alternatively take the glove box off and just fix the covers the the dash so it looks like its a glove box but will not open.
anyone have any ideas or has anyone done this before.
(i will also have a full mk3 dash board available in a few weeks so anyone interested pm me with offers. will come complete with everything centre chanel consloes, swithches, heater cotrols, vents, speakers and covers, steering column under plastics.(only thing not included is the steering colum surround plastics i have used these)
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No idea mate but id love to see some pics.
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here is my car with the stock dash removed and the clocks still plumbed up as im still using the car. you can see the metal beam that i am on about in the pictures
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0260.jpg)
here is a picture of the mk4 dash, it was complete but i have removed all the bits n bobs so i can see what part of the dash touches the beam and where i can screw the dash down.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0249.jpg)
and here is the mk4 handbrake and gear stick console mocked up on the mk3, only prolem is the mk4s have the handbraked lever on the left of the car and the mk3 is in the centre so i am going to have to bend the handbrake lever a bit so it doesnt catch on the console.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0262.jpg)
if anyone can see a way to get the glovebox in without too much hassle then let me know pretty please>>>>
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If i were you i would just sacrifice it and seal it shut. Seems the safest and easiest option.
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i may do this option, but one other bit thats in the way is to the back of the radio cage as it wont go all the way in, but that an easy fix, a bit of heat and a hammer and slam away :laugh:
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i thought about this mod but seemed to hard to perform!!!! :cry:
id love it if you could write down how you did it and all the problems you came across when doing it like the wiring and other stuff! :laugh:
cheers in advance :wink:
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yeah i have taken loads of pictures and know what ive done with the wiring so once ive finished the leather seats i will ask JV to create me a dash conversion post.
anyway i have decided that i will be cutting the glovebox out/off and fixing the glovebox door to the dash so it appears as if i have a glove box.
also got the mk4 clocks wired up and working now so im well chuft, see pictures, sorry for crap qaulity took them last night on completion and this morning on way into work whilst driving :grin:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0264.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0272.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0267.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0266.jpg)
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last night efforts :
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0277.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0275.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0276.jpg)
only problem was the dash protruded a bit too far so when i secured it in place and shut the doors the side mirror adjuster on the drivers door was touching the edge of the dash. so i removed it all and trimmed a good half inch off the back of the dash so it should theoretically sit a bit further back in the car now and i should have some clearance with the top of the steering wheel and the speedo shroud as well as being able to adjust the seering colum as i clipped the under steering colum plastics on and the column adjuster handle couldnt move so i have trimmed the plastics to allow it to go down and tonight the dash should be fitted and ready to rock (apart from the glove box as i need to carefully trim and figure this out before i ruin the glove box.
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looking good shayne, I'll pop down soon to have a nose round :p
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cheers dizzie, pop down when you want mate i could do with a 2nd pair of eyes to look over the engine incase im missing something.
are you going to the gti festival in margam on the weekend. im popping down for a sniff if you fancy meeting up, you can come and see the car at my house then.
Do you have or know of a oil return pipe from the turbo (k04) for my engine as mine has been dented by the spanner that delivered it, i would like to find another one. but if that fails i will cut out the kinked bit and weld a new section in but i dont want to risk loosing oil throug a weel weld etc. any help
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will probably nip down sunday if I'm not busy. I need to pop up to my parents this weekend too as I have things that need attending to up there so dunno when I'll be about.
I'll defiently come down soon though :)
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no probs, let me know when mate
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Had a look at Shayne's dash last night. looks awesome in the mk3. good work mate :)
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How much was the dash dude? looks frikin nice, does it change your insurance though?
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Looks good like that, How hard was it to get the mk4 clocks working with the mk3 engine or is it a 1.8t under the bonnet?
Any chopping of the actual dash needed to make it fit?
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i paid 175 for the dash complete with clocks centre console everything i needed. it fits straight in no cutting required if you are using a aftermarket steering wheel. if your using stock steering wheel then an inch of the back has to be cut off so the dash sits further into ther car. the only thing that wont fit is the glove box as you have to remove the back off it to get past the dash support.
the clocks work fine, the engine is still the gti engine(im tarting my 20vt engine up beofre i put in) i have a list of what wire to connects to what mk3 wire to make the clocks work so if anyone wants a copy of the list to help them with the conversion then pm me and ill email it to them as the mk3 speedo loom contains all white wires so a pin to pin description is needed.
i havent declared the dash to the insurance! i dont see why i should. Do all the girl racers declare their pink fluffy steering wheel covers etc. i dont think my dash conversion would make a difference to my insurance anyway but once the car is on the road, all mods will be declared and an agreed value will be arranged with my insurance.
cheers for the compliment dizzie, nice to finally meet you and for clearing up some of my frustration with hoses and wires etc.
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Hats off to you bud, don't think I'd have the balls to do that to my car!
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you should declare all mods really. it might not even change your premium, but if you have to make a claim and they look into it and find you have undeclared mods they might void your policy.
best thing is to ask them how much extra it would be and then decide. it's likely there'll be no increase.
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soooo if you can put a mk4 dash into a mk3? you can put a mk4 dash into a mk2 :tongue:
we need zi guide :smiley: looks the bollocks :smug: :smiley:
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great bit of work :afro:
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ill get some pictures up over the weekend of the dash in full and what cuts i had to make to get futted snug enough. if a mk3 fits into a mk2 with minimal cuts i guess someone could squeeze a mk4 dash in there. someone give it a go!!!!
i wont declare the dash untill the engine has been put in and the car is back on the road. i know policies would be void if mods not declared, but i know nothing about cars and i bought the car like that and presumed that the car had a stock dash :wink: :wink: :grin:
thanks for all your comments they are making me blush :embarassed: but keep em coming :grin:
the dash was in but i had to take it out today so i can fabriacate a bridge from the mk3 blowers up to the mk4 dash chanels, ive bought my chicken wire and my fibre glass matting kit today(thanks to a handy tip off from dizzie rascal) so i can start fabricating tomorrow pics to follow
the other and only stumbling block i have is swapping the mk3 headlight switch wiring over to the mk4 plug. if anyone has some info on this please share it with me as i have no clue what each wire does so i dont want to try different connections and blow fuses or pop the bulbs or circuitry in the mk4 switch.
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soooo if you can put a mk4 dash into a mk3? you can put a mk4 dash into a mk2 :tongue:
we need zi guide :smiley: looks the nuts :smug: :smiley:
Watch this space ;) I have a cunning plan been planning it! it's a winter thing!
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the other and only stumbling block i have is swapping the mk3 headlight switch wiring over to the mk4 plug. if anyone has some info on this please share it with me as i have no clue what each wire does so i dont want to try different connections and blow fuses or pop the bulbs or circuitry in the mk4 switch.
using the mk3 switch you can test for it with a multimeter or it should be in the back of the Haynes manual not sure on the mk4 but if you find the main feed pin, put your meter on continuity, the one that beeps! then put sidelights on on the switch and test the pins, ballache but someone will probably know anyway!
edit: Main feed is what I meant but again it's going to be a pain! haynes sneaky peek I think!
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finally got my butt into gear and hoooked up the mk3 fans to the mk4 air channels and all is working sccchhewweeettt.
i had to fibreglass over some chicken wire to make a lip for the air ducts supplying the window with air as this was flush, then i cut some lengths of leather (as i had an old tatty hide wasting away in the garage) and wrapped the around my fibregalss lip and around the mk3 fan unit silicon sealed the overlap and cable tied it around the fan unit and the fibreglass lip.
i had one small mod to make to the mk4 heater controls as the dial for choosing where the air blow from wouldnt select the window option as it didnt retun the metal cable all the way, so i had to space the end of the sheath surrounding the cable a little furhter back from the actaul mounting point, fixed it in position and roberts your mothers brother. so dash is in for good now, heaters work, clocks working with no flashy christmas lights blinking at me.
jobs left to do are: cover the back of the exsposed glovebox, screw some more anchors to the sides of the dash and screw to mk3 dash support to fasten the dash down good and proper so no vibrations whilst driving, make a cusotm steering colum surround out of cardboard and wrap in leather or cloth,fix my head unit wiring as i have now somehow not got the 12v supply when ignition is turned on. after these little jobs the conversion should be completed.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0305.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/shayneperry/DSCF0308.jpg)