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Title: ATS cups...
Post by: wayders on 14 August 2006, 10:21
I'm looking at getting myself a set of ATS cups, does anybody know if they come in 17"s as that wot i'm currently on, or would i be better suited with the 16s?
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 14 August 2006, 10:23
14s tbh.  :cool:
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Post by: golfpro on 14 August 2006, 10:25
didnt think they came larger than 15 but i recon some 15x8s are the way to go for ya mate. Im orderin mine for the mk3 today!!!!!
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 14 August 2006, 11:25
im now drivin 15" from 17" on the cab and believe me, the drive is so much nicer..but its your choice at the end o the day.. :smiley:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: wayders on 14 August 2006, 12:23
Hard in which way Dinx? I do find the ride quite hard on 17s. Many thanks mate.. :wink:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 14 August 2006, 13:27
its all alot smoother with 15s..general driving, parking, bumps in the rd.. :laugh:
you also have to think about the stress 17s are gonna have on ur clutch n steering..
because of past experience, i wudn reccomend them on a mk1, yeah its sumthing dif, thats why i kept mine for so long, but its nicer with 15s.. :smiley:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: wayders on 14 August 2006, 15:30
Cheers 4 the info Dinx, i'm also on a 40mm drop so as u can imagine my ride is quite hard on 17s. 15s it is then, dont suppose uv any pics of yours on 15s?
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 14 August 2006, 19:14
thats wot springs i had on mine, thou i dont think there was a true 40mm drop..and i was actually surprised how little they rubbed..only wen tight (as tight as you can get with 17s) wen goin round corners/r-abouts..
on 17s..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/D_LAWLAN/DSCF0104.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/D_LAWLAN/wheelloweredback.jpg)

same springs but on 15s...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/D_LAWLAN/DSC00272.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/D_LAWLAN/DSC00274.jpg)

think im gonna end up changin my springs thou..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: wayders on 14 August 2006, 20:05
Yo Dinx you're right they do look much better m8 and guess wot, i've just measured my wheels and they're 16s not 17s..... How stupid do i feel lol!! :laugh:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 14 August 2006, 20:08
yeah..ur a gonk...welcome to my world.. :grin:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: wayders on 14 August 2006, 20:14
Might even go to 14s like Slick mentioned...?
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 14 August 2006, 20:20
i contemplated 14s...but wasnt convinced they'd work well with my kit on the cab..
mk1s look well :cool: on 14s n slammed.. and theres a nice choice o wheels in 14s as well..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: wayders on 14 August 2006, 20:39
Yeah i know iv just been looking at dubmiester's site, really wanna go with the ats cups tho but they start at 15x7 or 8, i'll add a pic see wot u think? (http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/Mk1gti_2006/CUPgr.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 14 August 2006, 20:56
well 7width is fine, tis wot i have on mine..anything more and may need arch work..
im not a fan of ats tbh, because they have been done to death on mk1s.. but i see how they would suit urs..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: golfpro on 15 August 2006, 16:38
oooooh seein them makes me so excited! should be here tomorrow or thurs! :smug:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: wayders on 16 August 2006, 09:07
Yo pro, i'm jealous!!  :sick: stick us some pics up once you've fitted them>>  :laugh:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: golfpro on 16 August 2006, 09:51
eye will do. I agree with Di tho, there are many a mk1 with cups on, but with most mk3s bein 5 stud u dont see many with them on. Only decision Iv got to make is wether to get spacers put on or not.
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 16 August 2006, 23:41
try em without first hun...as ive done..then wen u start rubbin..decide u need to put em on..like i do :grin:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: golfpro on 17 August 2006, 10:07
surely spacers will just add to the rubbin Di? Think Il be needin my arches rolled to get it lookin exactly how Id like but Il get round to it i gues. Im likin ur wheels lots and lots tho hun, they look quality!
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Post by: mase on 17 August 2006, 10:14
depends where they rub mate.....

if the offset is too high then the wheels will sit too far into the arches and rub on the inner arches or suspension.

they will then need spacers to lower the offset and push the wheels out more, but then u run the risk of them rubbing on the outer arch lip, which can usually be cured by having the arches rolled / cut.
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: golfpro on 17 August 2006, 10:21
aaaah, gotcha. hadnt thought of that but it makes sence.
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 17 August 2006, 11:36
^thats wot mine does..i think anyhoo..
gonna try it with spacers and go from there..as i wasn expecting rubbin anyway and the suspension aint exactly low.. :laugh:
thanx phil..im sure the ats will suit urs to a tea!

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: golfpro on 17 August 2006, 11:46
i hope il get chance to show u later, they should be here today!
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Post by: mase on 17 August 2006, 11:49
^thats wot mine does..i think anyhoo..
gonna try it with spacers and go from there..as i wasn expecting rubbin anyway and the suspension aint exactly low.. :laugh:
thanx phil..im sure the ats will suit urs to a tea!

Dinx :kiss:

guess u talkin about your 15's?
u know wat offset they are? should be stamped inside the wheel 'ET' then a number....

a good way to find out about rubbing is to reverse slowly on full lock, if u can hear / feel a rubbing or a knocking, then its prob cause the wheels are fouling something inside the arches. especially if the car isnt very low.

also, take a wheel off, and have a look at the inside tyre wall, inside of the wheel.... u might be able to see scuff marks or such like if they are catching.  

then maybe try a 3mm spacer and see if that cures the problem, u shouldnt need them on the back....  :nerd: :nerd:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 17 August 2006, 12:01
its on the back that they are rubbin! :laugh:
im gonna check all my suspension and wot not as well..

but ill try wot you have said..
thanx!

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: mase on 17 August 2006, 12:07
its on the back that they are rubbin! :laugh:

lol.... erm, bugger  :laugh:

just try and lookin for scuff marks on the wheels / tyres, or just ignore it and dont have any fat people in the back  :tongue:
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Post by: golfpro on 17 August 2006, 12:10
now theres a thought. out with the back seats!
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 17 August 2006, 12:38
its on the back that they are rubbin! :laugh:

lol.... erm, bugger :laugh:

just try and lookin for scuff marks on the wheels / tyres, or just ignore it and dont have any fat people in the back :tongue:
lol..it was only wen i had weight in the back or the road dipped or summit..but i wanna sort it out anyway..excuse for newer suspension.. :wink:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: mase on 17 August 2006, 13:04
lol..it was only wen i had weight in the back or the road dipped or summit..but i wanna sort it out anyway..excuse for newer suspension.. :wink:

Dinx :kiss:


got any pics of it?

if its only rubbing under load then its prob catching on the outside of the arch due to the ride height being lowered when the suspension is under load.

getting the lip on the arches rolled would prob cure it.... £25 a corner from any decent body shop should sort that
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 17 August 2006, 13:44
ill post sum later as they are on my house computer..

not really fancyin doin any arch work tbh..

ill have a gander at the wkend anyhoo..

ur advice had been appreciated ta..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: wayders on 18 August 2006, 10:16
Anyway bk to the subject of the ATS cups, iv recently seen a cpl of golfs with completly silver finishes in stead of the black centres, does anybody know if they can be bought like this or do they need painting?
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 18 August 2006, 11:08
theres actually a wheel that isnt made by ats that are all silver finish as well..cheaper too i think..


Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: mase on 18 August 2006, 11:16
ats make a few wheels.....

they make a 'planet' wheel: http://www.ats-wheels.com/aftermarket_english/ats_collection/ats_
and thats the closest thing ive found on their site to the cup, which according to them, is only made with the black inserts
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 18 August 2006, 12:28
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATS-CUP-alloy-wheels-suit-golf-gti-mk1-mk2-BBs-rh_W0QQitemZ250019375388QQihZ015QQcategoryZ28648QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:wink:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: golfpro on 18 August 2006, 12:58
borbet did a wheel that are almost identical to the cups i think. There were some on ebay a few weeks ago. Mine are here and on by the way. Have a look at my dubs rides page for some better pics
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Post by: Dinky on 18 August 2006, 13:06
actually..i saw these and went..ooo..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATS-CLASSICS-VW-GOLF-POLO-SCIRROCO_W0QQitemZ290019291107QQihZ019QQcategoryZ28648QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: golfpro on 18 August 2006, 13:08
oooooh indeed! he will code them in whatever colour you choose too! how cool are they! classics rule!
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 18 August 2006, 13:11
these could rock! lol imagine how low thou.. 13s?!?! :laugh:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: mase on 18 August 2006, 13:11
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATS-CUP-alloy-wheels-suit-golf-gti-mk1-mk2-BBs-rh_W0QQitemZ250019375388QQihZ015QQcategoryZ28648QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:wink:

Dinx :kiss:

nice find... didnt think they made them like that to be honest, everydays a school day!  :tongue:

for me its all about these:
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Brock-B2-Felgen-9Jx16-Lochkreis-5x100-mit-215-40-16_W0QQitemZ160019191541QQihZ006QQcategoryZ9892QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: ATS cups...
Post by: Dinky on 18 August 2006, 13:21
yeah..think chris has them on his rallye? look well smart anyhoo..contemplated them before i got my wheels..


Dinx :kiss: