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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: BigRon on 20 December 2003, 17:24
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Hi Peeps,
Im in a position that im able to purchase one of the above, what do you peeps suggest.
The Aniversary is ?16500
4 motion is ?20000
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The 4 motion is expensive but a much better car. Yes you can tune the turbo car up, but the v6 already has the power and a hell of a lot more potential.
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all down to personal preference!!!!, id like both!!!, think youll have to weigh up the pros and cons!!!, :D :D
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Only tomrc can afford both :-*
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If its a question of looks and individuality, i would go for the Anniversary. The V6 looks like any other golf but the anniversary is something else. When i m finished with my PD130 I am gonna track down Silver PD150 Anniversary. You just gotta love those wheels, but i would'nt wanna try cleaning them!!!!
Plus the V6 is gonna cot a bomb on fuel judging by the Economy figures.
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Go for the 1.8T Anni. With a remap you will have more power than the V6 both horsepower and torque, coulpled with a few other mods you will be leaving the V6 4Mo a long way behing you in your rear view mirror.
To get any real power from the V6 you have to spend major money (?1000's). If you spent the same on the 1.8T then you would probably end up with >300bhp!!
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Well not really, if you tuned the 1.8T to 300bhp you are gonna have to spend big money on it. Unless you want it to blow up in a couple of weeks. The turbo car will never be as good as a v6.
The v6 has 204bhp as standard, thats without exhaust,filter,cams,chip etc.
Plus for a couple of grand you will be able to put a supercharger on the v6, big power and not a lot of loss in reliability.
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think id plump for an anni as well, saw one in grimsby today!! spent a while starin at the 18" wheels!! looks wise yep 'anni' for me and as i used to be a turbo head i think id be less scared to mess about with a 1.8t!!!!! ::) ::) ::)
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Have you seen how fast those v6s can go?
Just with a filter and exhaust your looking at around 220bhp!
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fair point but for me wantin to do me own stuff id rather work with a blower and fwd!!!! done me own turbo technics xr3i years ago and have always done me own engine bits and bobs so for my choice it would have to be the 'anni' :D :D
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Its easy mate, well sort of. The v6 in the 4motion is the same as the vr6 with a 24v head. I've had my apart already as ya know ;D
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Would deffo have the Anniv, for several reasons:
Firstly, whilst not doubting the ability or performance of the 4motion, it is just another Golf - it has been in production for a long time and there are loads of them around.
The anniversary is a limited edition model (2000 units), and as the last model developed of the Mk4, it represents the culmination of the Mk4 engineering experience.
It is a far more special car.
Secondly, in many cases, this one included, tuning a turbo charged car is more simple than tuning a normally aspirated car, fact.
Bearing in mind that if you do go for the 4motion, you will already be spending ?3500 more than you would if you bought the annivesary. if you start talking about supercharging it at ?2k (and believe me, that would be the minimum you'd pay) you'd be able to chuck ?5500 at the anniversary to call it even - and at that point, you could have a proper, low compression engine running a big turbo and specialist management giving you 350 bhp minmium (I know this as a mate runs this spec engine in his Octavia).
I can't help thinking that you might be a little bit biased here mr 6, and any question involving a desendant of your car Vs anything else, will get the same answer - if its got a sixpot under the bonnet, its gonna be better! ;D
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I think i'm on my own on this one! :'(
One thing i do have to say is you can pick up a 4motion for much cheaper, but not brand new.
The 6 pot will always have more tuning potential, thats a fact. EIP do turbo kits that take a vr6 over 500bhp. Obviously you do need lower end work.
The point is the v6 is more powerful to start with(more cylinders) so if you are gonna tune it , it will always be more reliable than 1.8T.
I do admit i am biased as i think the narrow angle 6 is a smashing motor, and you can't BEAT 4 wheel drive ;D
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I do have to add, that if money were no object I woud rather be tuning the V6. As Mr 6 pointed out, you have two more cylinders and an extra 1000cc to start with.
If you were chucking endless money at either, the larger capacity, 6 will chuck out more power, as whatever you do the 1.8 you can do to the V6 too (as long as you've added the turbo!) and you will always be those two cylinders and 1000cc ahead.
I have to d=say that its a nice dilema to have! ;D
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Quite right you can't beat 4 wheel drive. But i don't personally think the VW Haldex system used in the V6 is all that cop. If you are compring it to a full time 4wd car like a subaru or Escort cosworth.
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It is permanent 4 wheel drive, split 60/40, or synchro if ya like.
I'm just biased about the v6 cos i obviously own an earlier one.
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where as im biased to a 1.8t (even though i aint got a blower on mine!!), turbos have come on so much in the last 7 years then engines are better the blowers are stronger using better bearing and seals (when i used to have me old turbo cars you were forever watchin all your gauges and preying they werent gonna blow a seal or melt a piston) the realiability of the 1.8 20v engine is very good, after all it is based on the old 16v lump with an extra intet valve thrown in for each cylinder!!!, this disscussion could go on for ever its all down to personal taste and the cash youve got to spend, on the car and any future tuning mods etc!!!, take em both out for a test drive!!! and have fun!!! ;D :D :D
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Thats why its not a good idea to tune it too much, could affect long term reliability.
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especially if you like burning petrol and have a heavy right foot ;)
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Thanks for all the coments,but to make things more interesting i have booked a test drive in an R32 5door...Awsome looking and hopefuly awsome motor.. ;D
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the 'ultimate' golf get your cheque book out!!! lol :D ;D