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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Cupra Turbo on 18 December 2003, 23:27
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Yes even u VR6 owners are gonna be in the rear view mirror of Renaults new beasts
Renault Clio Sport 182
Clio Sport V6 255Bhp
For Xmas I want a 182 Clio Sport.
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Them new clio's look awesome. The clio cup was a big hit but with a bit more power they are gonna be hard to beat..
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Yeah they look proper cool, Ive just ordered a brochure on them... nice new lights and stuff
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I'd love to have a go in one... evryone raves about them. One of the most popular new cars taken on track days now.
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They are the new GTI's arent they.
... :'(
VW makes em too heavy and adds a turbo to pretend its fast... when in reality its just a big oaf station wagon!
... well... mk4 anywayz LOL!
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If the mk4 turbo is slow, then what does that make your 8v? :-*
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It makes me 19 with no ncb.
and I was 18 when I bought it.
What does it make you? ???
I plan on having a 172 early 2005 or perhaps a 206 180bhp.
by then I "should" be on ?18,000 a year, 21yrs young and 1yr ncb.
... I plan things in advance! 8)
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PS: My 8v doesnt look as "family wagon" as a mk4 turbo.
I mean, coloured bump strips, alloys and different rear lenses ...???
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?18000 , that a lot of money
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Not for an I.T. Administrator its not. I expect to be knocking on ?30,000 when I'm 25. :-*
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i've just been promoted and will be getting 17,500. Nothing special these days though. Like the golf - moneys not what it used to be.
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Yep thats nice. Is that all? :D
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well we can't all afford a vr6! :D
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Yep thats nice. Is that all
enuff for my 172 and the insurance.
plus many nites out
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Rather a vr6 than a crap renault. How about an Audi S4 for 15k, will pee all over the french crap even the 25k renault v6.
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good point... ;D
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cos the 172 is a babe magnet.
and I want a small dinky toy to play with when im not playing with a woman. 8)
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It makes me 19 with no ncb.
and I was 18 when I bought it.
What does it make you? ???
Considerably richer than yall
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cos the 172 is a babe magnet.
Yep, babes like the fat one on pop idol.
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well done
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:-*
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Considerably richer than yall
How old are you?
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Considerably richer than yall
How old are you?
13?
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i was thinking more like 11 with a paper round. ;D
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probably on big brothers computer aswell..
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but Big Brother isnt even legal to have sex yet...so hes not so big.
:D
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Yep, if i was that young then i'm doing well to have a vr6. By time i'm 18 i might have a porsche 911 turbo.
If i'm doing a paper round, then you must still be sucking on your mams tits.
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then you must still be sucking on your mams tits.
36EE my friend... proper 'bo
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'ere what happened to the VR6 that was driving down the motorway?
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it broke down
:D :D :D HAHAHAHA... omg thats sh!t... HAHAHA
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that's so bad i actually laughed at it!! :'(
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Stop whingeing and pull up your pampers :-*
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hahaha yea me too... god.. its mad friday today.. and ... omg I hope I dont come online at 3am tomorrow... pished as a fart... talking even moer BS than I am now!! :o
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Get back in your mums bed.. I'm done with her now :D
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EEEWW U had a corpse???
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::)
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heh heh... only joking.
... i dread to think what people are gonna think when they read this later on.... ::)
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hopefully they won't read it... i'd be worried if i did! ::)
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Sausage jockeys :-*
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its all on vr6's head, hes the mod... shame to remove this thread tho... its comedy.. pure comedy... just like the VR6! :D
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nah, i doubt they'll think that.
unless they read your bits!!
HO HO HO! :D
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its all on vr6's head, hes the mod... shame to remove this thread tho... its comedy.. pure comedy... just like the VR6! :D
Vr6 is pure comedy? what does make an 8v? a laughing stock :D
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unless they read your bits
.. true... bollox... >:(
hahaha 8) ;D :D :-*
Vr6 is pure comedy? what does make an 8v? a laughing stock
No it makes it a car... not a lardy lump with a wanna be ricer engine :D
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I'm confused? you say my car is a tank and lardy, yep it is, but so is yours, and you have a mere 115bhp to pull it.
Ha Ha Ha
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Is it true that the 8v needs to be towed uphill because the engine doesn't have enough power to pull it?
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Huh.......I think you know better than that >:(
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Just meant the mk3 :)
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Ooops, sorry, should have read that through properly :-[
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you say my car is a tank and lardy, yep it is, but so is yours, and you have a mere 115bhp to pull it.
But its a GTI..... it has the "LOGO" ... SHOW ME THE LOGO!!! GTI oh yes... ... Back of the net
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Just read the posts....'clio' and 'good' in the same sentence....sacrilege!
French cars are plastic crap and i would NEVER even consider driving one..i don't want to die young ;D
Stick to your VW guys :P
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you say my car is a tank and lardy, yep it is, but so is yours, and you have a mere 115bhp to pull it.
But its a GTI..... it has the "LOGO" ... SHOW ME THE LOGO!!! GTI oh yes... ... Back of the net
Er yep, but the logo doesn't mean much when it couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding
ho ho ho
:D :D
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when it couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding
I eat my rice pudding b4 it gets a skiin on it! :D
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ALL THE SMILIES NOW HAVE SANTA HATS!!
:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
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so whats all this sh!te about mk4's then????? wish id have stayed on late last night i enjoy some banter!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yes even u VR6 owners are gonna be in the rear view mirror of Renaults new beasts
Renault Clio Sport 182
Clio Sport V6 255Bhp
Can't speak for everyone, but I disagree with this!
Firstly, my golf is far from slow!
Secondly, I couldn't contemplate swapping a VW for a french car.
I have put 47k miles on my golf in well under 18 months and it hasn't missed a beat.
A girlfriend of my missus picked up her brand new 172 sport (one of the last left in the country apparently) and it was back in the garage getting fixed within three days.
French cars are fast because they are poorly built (and hence, lightweight) - eletrics, interiors, body panels, everything is all tier three quality compared to our vee dubs.
You want one for christmas? I garauntee you that by easter the only quick thing about it will be the speed at which the trim falls around your feet, and the frequency of the calls you need to make to the dealer to complain. ;D
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Vr6 isn't exactly slow and its not new now. I doubt the mk4 models gti turbo/4 motion/diesel are exactly slow either.
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I doubt the mk4 models gti turbo/4 motion/diesel are exactly slow either.
Drove the 180Bhp anniversary - boring...no fun... not frighteningly fast either
Drove the 4Motion, hella fast... but bland... nice exhaust tho.
Drove the R32 ... too jiggery in first gear ... hence the new R32 DSG.
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How can you call a v6 bland?
REMEMBER YOU HAVE AN 8V!
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just look at the thing.... apart from the bigger alloys it looks like a 1.6 SE
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Just face it darling, you have got a slow car :D ;D
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Listen sugar... I think its time u changed that "old" thing and get a more moden car...
at least a 1997 ....
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What for 115bhp? not really no
Go drive a VR6, see what its like to have a FAST golf!
Ha ha ha ha :-*
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If I want a FAST Golf, I'll just get back in the R32 that my sister-in-law spins around in...
None of this VR6 pish ;D
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Yeah alright mate, when you can afford the insurance little boy.
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When ya sister-in-law works for VW then I just use the garage's insurance for a lil cruise session. ;)
... OH THE JOY.
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yip
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Lindsey Carter
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I don't see where mine has gotten any slower with age. The french car may show it the heels in a straight line run but how does it handle? I had a ren 19 16v for a little while. That thing was quick but my mk2 valver is just as quick if not quicker and handles a world better. I did drive a new clio 172 a couple months back just for grins and it was a fast little sh1t but i don't see it pulling away from a mk3 VR6. VR6 is a torque beast and handles the revs better then the the french cars do. Keep the revs up and hit your shifts proper and no problems there. :) Be a fun race though. R32 is quite the car. Is your sis single ;) ;D I know a really nice bloke she could meet. ;D
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like both of me golfs wether there fast or slow after all thats what were all here for not a my cars faster than yours type thing!!!!! he he he :D
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:D :D
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like both of me golfs wether there fast or slow after all thats what were all here for not a my cars faster than yours type thing!!!!! he he he :D
Totally in agreement here. I dont own a mark 1 because its fast. I like its history, the whole cult scene and the fact that they look so damn good. If it was about speed I wouldnt own a morris minor!
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If I want a FAST Golf, I'll just get back in the R32 that my sister-in-law spins around in...
None of this VR6 pish ;D
How many R32's do they have in stock? When I inquired about one at Northgate VW last summer they told me it would be an 8 to 10 month wait for delivery. ;D
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Your busted pal ;D he he he
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isnt that the name of them 'gay' pop boy band??? the one where theyve all got bushy eyebrows???lol ;D :D :D
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How many R32's do they have in stock?
2 now.. did have 3.
They currently have a Black one and a Blue one... Blue one is a demo...
The way it works is, most retailers got ONE R32 to sell... but a garage in Carlisle wanted a 180Bhp Mk4 Anniversary for a customer and my local VW had one, so they basically just gave them the anniversary in a trade for the black R32.
... Its a little bit more complicated than that... but its the jist.
... dunno where the third one came from tho... probably another trade or summet.
They also have a nice 150Bhp TDI PD Anniversary for sale... ?17,000 i think its selling at... heh heh.. one year old too
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You might get a go , but you still can't own one, he he he :-*
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Sounds good. I know evrywhere I have been reading the R32 is rated better than the new TT and the S3. Torn as to what I want now. Will see what the new year brings
;D
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I rather have a mk3 VR6 than any other car.. i have been in a mates with a k&N on and it sounds the part and the power is luverly... the price is good on them too..
Thats all i have to say ;D ;D ;D
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Thats right, you can pick up a tidy vr6 for a mere 5k. Now you can't argue with that!
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For when you absolutely have to p!ss all over every last MoFo on the road! ;)
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you can pick up a tidy vr6 for a mere 5k
I would argue with that... You can get a lot more of a car for 5k.
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Like what?
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Yeah ok but it wouldnt be the same really would it?
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Like what?
I sold my Nissan 300zx for 5.5K in October..
3.0l Twin Turbo over 300bhp...
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How old was it? will really last as long as a vw?
probably not! its not all about bhp, but just mostly ;D
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Its was H plate.
I got it fresh in from Japan... 100 km on the clock. Dump valves, Large bore twin exhausts...
0-60 in 5.5secs..
Its a Jap car so will go on forever....
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cos they got little hands so thay bolt them together good!
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Well then, get a p reg vr6 for 5k. A bit of difference in age?
Jap cars go on forever, well not really no, how many old jap cars do u see compared with old vws/audis/bmws?
answer :- not many
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You can get a lot more of a car for 5k.
Nissan Sunny GTi-R
those are hella cool cars!!!
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Depends what ya like really. The golf is an excellent all round package as well as being fast.
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The GTi-R (ITS A GTI) is just a pure bred beast :o
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Well then, get a p reg vr6 for 5k. A bit of difference in age?
Jap cars go on forever, well not really no, how many old jap cars do u see compared with old vws/audis/bmws?
answer :- not many
Well you could also buy a brand new Daewoo Matiz for ?5k. thats newer!
Theres plenty of old Jap cars about... My second car is a F plate Honda Integra with 270,000 miles on the clock. I also own an F Reg Nissan Micra and a J plate Nissan 100Nx.
I think Jap and German cars are the only ones to buy.
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Nissan Sunny GTi-R
those are hella cool cars!!!
YUM YUM!
If you sport a purple rinse! :-*
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Well then, get a p reg vr6 for 5k. A bit of difference in age?
Jap cars go on forever, well not really no, how many old jap cars do u see compared with old vws/audis/bmws?
answer :- not many
Well you could also buy a brand new Daewoo Matiz for ?5k. thats newer!
Theres plenty of old Jap cars about... My second car is a F plate Honda Integra with 270,000 miles on the clock. I also own an F Reg Nissan Micra and a J plate Nissan 100Nx.
I think Jap and German cars are the only ones to buy.
I wasn't cussing Jap cars, just pointing out theres 100s or even much more old golfs around compared with jap cars.
Pre 90 jap cars are very rare compared to golfs, i think that says it all. Jap make great engines, but the old bodyworks didn't hold up for long.
Its all down to individual taste really. I think 5k for a vr6 is a bargain.
On the subject of value for money, i couldn't think of a single reason to go and spend 25-30k on a jap sports car when i could buy a super fast Audi for that money.
I think some people are just out to knock the vr6, is it jealousy by any chance? :o
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I would still perfer the GOLF mk3 vr6 then a Nissan Sunny GTi-R as they are such a nice car and i will purchase sooner or later. The golf mk3 looks loads better than a nissan sunny GTI, don't get me wrong they are fast but the GOLF vr6 is still at the top of my list. ;D
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At the end of the day anyone can say your car isn't fast cos there are faster ones around, but do these people actually own a fast car themselves?
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My next car is gonna be an Audi S4, they are going for about 15k now. What should i get thats better value for money? anyone? :o
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There is a reason to spend 25-30k on a jap car when you could have a super fast audi for the same cash
the reason being impreza/evo 6
not much will out perform these cars on britains varying roads..
sorry but its true, watch a few rallies WRC or even group N... ;)
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My next car is gonna be an Audi S4, they are going for about 15k now. What should i get thats better value for money? anyone? :o
personal taste.
what i say is better for me will not be better for you..
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There is a reason to spend 25-30k on a jap car when you could have a super fast audi for the same cash
the reason being impreza/evo 6
not much will out perform these cars on britains varying roads..
sorry but its true, watch a few rallies WRC or even group N... ;)
What about an Audi RS4, 350BHP?
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Imprezas and evos have poo build quality ::)
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Group N ...?
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Imprezas and evos have poo build quality ::)
see, not the car for you
for me they would be due to performance.
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Alright then mate, if we are going to talk about cars we CAN'T afford then i'll go for an AUDI RS6. 4.2L V8 BI-TURBO, where are your jap cars now?
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Oh by the way they are 450bhp off the production line.
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Thats the difference for me, whats the point of buying a performance car thats gonna lose all its value and fall apart?
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Alright then mate, if we are going to talk about cars we CAN'T afford then i'll go for an AUDI RS6. 4.2L V8 BI-TURBO, where are your jap cars now?
on the autobahn my jap crap is in your rear view mirror..
on the dirty backlanes ........ ;)
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Are you sure about that?
Have you ever driven any Audi quattros before?
i have to admit i haven't driven an impreza , however the audi sticks to the road like its on railway tracks.
You can go round a roundabout with your foot to floor, no loss of grip at all.
I have driven a 90 quattro and an A4 quattro, the handling is absolutely AMAZING, out of this world.
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if i had 5k i'd buy this
(http://www.zed-x.co.uk/images/CCC2/dantracksmall.jpg)
this is my 300zx which i sold!!
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Are you sure about that?
Have you ever driven any Audi quattros before?
i have to admit i haven't driven an impreza , however the audi sticks to the road like its on railway tracks.
You can go round a roundabout with your foot to floor, no loss of grip at all.
I have driven a 90 quattro and an A4 quattro, the handling is absolutely AMAZING, out of this world.
I agree in the early eighties not much could beat the Audi Quattro E2 (500bhp)
However, not having driven any early or late Quattro, or Impreza, or Mitsi Evo,
I couldn't tell you which is quickest, etc.
But (don't believe everything you read) many many many people would say that its hard to beat a Evo 6 straight from the forecourt...
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What do i know tho..?
Back to the 8v --- god it's slow! ;)
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He he he ::)
I do fancy an Audi rs4 or rs6
they are a bit costly though!
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He he he ::)
I do fancy an Audi rs4 or rs6
they are a bit costly though!
give us a web address n i'll go have look...
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look up audi i guess.
i saw an audi rs6 at gti international last year, its one nice bit of hardware!
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I think an S reg Impreza WRX @ ?6500 is a steal.
There was one forsale near me not so long ago, in dark blue
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The jap cars are very cheap as well as very quick. They depreciate like a breeze block in a river. You need to ask yourself why?
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Subaru's are Swedish.
(I think)
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subaru is not swedish. swedish cars ie. saab and volvo are built to last like vws.
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Im sure Subaru's came from up there...
cos back in the 80's or summet they came to the UK and had no car dealerships etc... and .... the "whole thing was a f*cking disgrace" (Billy Connelly Impression)
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The jap cars are very cheap as well as very quick. They depreciate like a breeze block in a river. You need to ask yourself why?
Depreciate ?? No more so than any other countries car.. Look at the Honda Civic CRX and the Nissan 100Nx... They hold probably the highest values for there age (relative to original purchase price).
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Subaru's are Swedish.
(I think)
I think you'll find Subaru is a Fuji owned company. So its Japanese.
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Maybe you have a point there danhock, however the majority of these performance jap car DO depreciate very fast, much quicker than a lot of vws.
You get what you pay for in this world, you can get a new impreza, for example, relatively cheap for the performance it produces. Ask yourself, why so cheap? answer - because it won't last.
If you like jap cars so much then why don't you go and buy one.
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er fast cars we cant afford??? well since ive got a wifey and 3 kids looks like the audi rs4/rs6 for me but as a toy it would be a porsche(new 911 turb) sorry i hate jap crap in my eyes german engineering is far superior!!! if i won the lottery etc i wouldnt go and buy a ferrari etc no way give me german anyday!! (even if german ladies do have 'hedgehog' armpits!!!! lol) ho ho ho :D :D ::) ::)
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yep the japs should stick to bikes!!!! all my bikes were jap jobbies and never gave me any sh!te!!! all quick and liked tuning (especially my suzuki gsxr1100l, stage 2 head ,cams, filter, exhaust, etc 150bhp+at the wheel, oh yeah extended swinging arm (150mm) for long wheelbase quick starts!!!(still wanted to wheelie like a mother!!) ;D >:( ;D >:( ;D
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I know the feeling! My Brother had an 88 GSXR1100 one of the old hypersport jobs. What a beast! One of my old riding partners had a ZX-12 with an extended swingarm. Rode like a dream it did. Smoothed all the chop out of it and kept the front wheel planted. The last bike I had was a 99 R1. That thing was fun. I weigh about 175 and had a hell of a time kepping the front wheel down through 3rd if I was on it hard. I wound up downing it through a roundabout and called it quits on bikes for a bit. I was going straight on through the roundabout at about 55 and a land rover pulled out in front of me. I had no choice but to either hit the land rover or go straight over the hump in the middle of the round about. not a good move at 55. Took to the air and when I landed it got into a bar slapper that i couldn't get back out of. walked away from it sore but in one piece but never saw anything of the car driver. Another bloke in a car behind me chased him down and got his reg number for me though. The Ducati was a fun bike. Handled quick like a dirt bike and had loads of low end torque. a bit lean on topend compared to the modern bikes but did all i wanted. After having that twin cylinder I think I would be after an SP2 if I went out to buy a new bike today. Thinking about getting a big trailie though ;D
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stayin off the bikes for abit but will get anothjer soon9 COME NEW YEAR) i think another 600 is the thign i want as wanting to start doin trackdays etc at cadwell9ROUND THE CORNER) so a nic er6 would do me for now (missin me 1100 since i sold it BIGTIME!!!) he he never mind always used to get the mrs and kids naggin at me when ever i went out on me bikes!!!! ::)