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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Spam on 07 July 2006, 20:11

Title: 16v misfire!!
Post by: Spam on 07 July 2006, 20:11
Hi Guys,
           I have a 16 valve mk3 done 84000 miles and i am having trouble with an intermittent missfire. I have changed all the service bits like plugs leads filters etc and the lamda sensor. I have used 2 different coil pack to check it wasn't that but it still has the problem. The car doesn't missfire for a day or two then it starts lasts few seconds or minutes then dissapears. Anyone have any idea ??

Let me know guys if anyone can yo'll can

 :laugh:
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: Len on 07 July 2006, 21:13
Try changing the relays!

A very common problem on our cars that no garage seems to know about.

Either or both the ECU relay and the Fuel Injection relay. They are in the fuse box above the fuses.
Number 30 for the ECU and I think its 164 for the F I. check your Haynes manual.

They only cost about a tenner each. Do that and if it dont cure your problem then come back and ask again coz there are a few other things, but i'll bet its the relays!
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: Spam on 08 July 2006, 11:16
Thanks man i will try that. Seem's a very common thing.

Snoochy Boochy...
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: N_Dubs on 21 July 2006, 20:39
I have a similar problem, dont know if it is misfiring as i have never had a car misfire, and it is so intermittent that whenever i show anyone, nothing happens!!!

When booting the car mainly but when cruising too, it just seems really hesitant and jumps/splutters... I seem to only get 120 out of it too... this is wrong surely? (2.0 16v).

I have changed all the typical electronics (Leads, plugs, coil) used VAG-COM (nothing found) and it still occurs.

Is this the same problem?
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: chris_Mk3Annivers on 22 July 2006, 23:40
Hi

You must must must must (get the idea  :laugh:) change the relays.
My 16v had an intermittent stutter / missfire and after changing over £400 worth of stuff it still f***ing
stuttered  :angry: :angry: :angry:

Eventually after posting a 'plea' for help on here i was advised to change the ECU & Fuel Pump Relays.

I popped to VW and bough a ECU Relay for £11

How happy was i when after changing it in the car park i fired up my golf to hear a sweet sound.
A engine note like never before.

No probs at all now.

Good luck




Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 23 July 2006, 22:16
I changed the ECU relay on a mk3 16v recently, it seemed to give the engine more power, anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: jokmctoast on 31 July 2006, 23:03
I had this problem, and after many different pieces of advice, I took it ito the main Stealer who releived me of the best part of £300 for diagnostics, and the problem was still there, the advice i was given "sell it".
I found this thread, replaced the aforementioned relays, despite the Stealer advising me that this couldn't possibly fix the problem.
Strange though My motor  is going like it never has.

thank you all so much.
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 01 August 2006, 00:16
VW admitted that the ECU relay is a problem, they keep them in stock, which is rare for a car that is ten years old.
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: chrisstrouduk on 02 August 2006, 01:32
ive got this problem with mine..
just changed the Fuel Injection relay over which set me back £8 and it made the car more responcive which was nice...
but it still stutters at a certain rev range.. only sometimes though and coasting for a little while sorts it out..
guess ill change the ECU relay too

just to double check though.. misfiring etc.. does it do any damage at all? because the previous owned said it happened quite a bit so i just wanted to check  :smiley:
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: raylee25 on 07 August 2006, 22:31
I have a misfire on my 16v only at low speed.  I've changed the spark plugs and the ECU relay, but the problem is still there. The geezer at the stealers said it can't be the fuel injection relay, otherwise the car wouldn't start.
So Len, if your reading this. help!
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 08 August 2006, 12:18
I have a misfire on my 16v only at low speed.  I've changed the spark plugs and the ECU relay, but the problem is still there. The geezer at the stealers said it can't be the fuel injection relay, otherwise the car wouldn't start.
So Len, if your reading this. help!

Check your ht leads for arcing.
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: monkeyalan on 08 August 2006, 12:49
I have a misfire on my 16v only at low speed.  I've changed the spark plugs and the ECU relay, but the problem is still there. The geezer at the stealers said it can't be the fuel injection relay, otherwise the car wouldn't start.
So Len, if your reading this. help!

it's the fuel pump relay , not injection if that helps  :undecided:
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: raylee25 on 09 August 2006, 23:03
I've checked the HT leads, they look ok.  Does anyone know the relay number for the fuel pump?
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: raylee25 on 13 August 2006, 15:54
any more ideas anyone?
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: chrisstrouduk on 15 August 2006, 18:08
I went to buy an ECU Relay for my 16v as the fuel injection relay didnt sort the problem and the one i bought seemed to be misssing a connection when i matched it up to the existing one.
I thought id try it anyway and it made a fast clicking sound so that was pulled straight out again.
Am yet to find the correct ECU relay for my 16v and when i do ill post if it helps/solves my problem.  :wink:
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: N_Dubs on 20 August 2006, 15:06
In reply to my earlier post, I changed my ECU relay which is numbered 30. Solved the problem beautifully.


Wish I had found this site before I spent £200 on electrical parts I didnt need... <£10 and problem solved...

Dont know whether to laugh or cry. :grin: :grin: :grin: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Cheers fellas
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: raylee25 on 25 August 2006, 15:52
Come on guys, give us some answers!
Title: Re: 16v misfire!!
Post by: chrisstrouduk on 17 September 2006, 14:38
Changed Fuel pump relay as i said and it did nothing to the missfire but seemed to make the car more responcive and an £8 well spent..
Changed ECU relay and it Completly Solved the missfire problem! £8 and job done!   :grin: