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Title: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 04 July 2006, 11:52
Rite..if anyone knows anything about these little feckers..can u please be online tonight and add me to ya msn (DL7841@HOTMAIL.COM) so i can chew your ear off..
or...
if anyone has any clues as to why it turns over..and then slowly dies whilst tryin to drive it (within about two mins) please post it here as it is doing my head in..
also if anyone has any tips or a how-to on changin the clutch, wud be very grateful..  :kiss:

tia

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 04 July 2006, 13:00
to change the clutch:
remove the gearbox, change the clutch, refit the gearbox... :D
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 04 July 2006, 13:05
well..i know the basics but i meant any bits that mite be difficult...
i can go off people dizwas.. :angry: :grin:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 04 July 2006, 13:15
difficult bits are getting the gearbox off and putting it back on. you'll need 2 jacks, maybe a friend, a lot of pactience/alcoholic drinks (delete one).

never done a polo clutch before. did a passat one last week and that was a total mare! Golf ones are easier.

you go off me? never.  :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 04 July 2006, 13:18
i think if it is complicated i best stop off the beer!
if ur bored dizzie..u cud find me sum how-to guides :wink: :laugh:

hhmm.... :grin:

Dinx :kiss:

Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 04 July 2006, 13:22
how-to change a clutch?

I just gave you the how to lol. a very cut down version... :D

it's easy. just remove the gearbox and you'll see the clutch there. replace it and refit the gearbox and then reattach all the bits you took off it like clutch cable and gear linkages.

also the engine may drop due to some of the engine mounts being on the gearbox so you might want to support that with a jack. :)
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 04 July 2006, 13:29
rite...wot about why for its cuttin out smarty pants?! and wot size starkey do i need to remove the drive-shaft?

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 04 July 2006, 13:31
I've never worked on a polo, but I'll take a stab in the dark and say M8 like a mk2 golf...

not sure why it's cutting out sorry...
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 04 July 2006, 13:37
:grin: cheers diz....i know u have only answered cos u wanted to chat with us, bless ya :wink: :laugh:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 04 July 2006, 13:39
well of course. you're the best :D
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 04 July 2006, 13:41
arh shucks... wanna fix me car!? :laugh:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 04 July 2006, 13:42
bring it down then! I've got the week off work and I'm bored sh!tless!
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 04 July 2006, 13:44
if i did, it would cost me..cos id pay cash..not in kind! :wink: :grin:
nah..it doesn much anyhoo chuck..but ty.. :kiss:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 04 July 2006, 13:45
dam right you'd pay cash. I've removed my dick anyway as it's not being used now! lol
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 04 July 2006, 13:58
wud i feck! id slap u till u sorted it biyatch..
wot like de-tached it from urself?! :shocked:
diz..u have so spammed my thread like!

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 04 July 2006, 14:03
I told you the basics on replacing a clutch!
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 00:37
I've got a polo k reg 1.0, and i've done most stuff on it, including a clutch.
If you can give me more info about the cutting out problem i might be able to help.
The difficult bits doing a clutch, obviously getting the box in and out, interestingly on the polo it 'looks' like there is plenty of room, but it is still pretty tight.
Getting the starter motor off is a pain, as its at the back of the gearbox, also there is a rear engine/gearbox support bracket that can be difficult to remove, its much easier to remove this complete, and the downpipe support bracket needs to come off, remember how it goes together, as its in several bits!!
Before loosening the bolt and separating the gearshift coupling, make sure you mark it, as you won't get the gearchange back otherwise.
And obviously support the engine when you remove the gearbox mounting.
Anything else you need to know then let me know!
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: tomo320 on 05 July 2006, 01:17
might be worth making yourself as much room as possible,  releasing gear linkage and clutch cable, getting the front end of your car up in the air high as you can, let drivers side engine mount off just a bit (to hold it) dropping rest using a good jack, undo the passenger side driveshaft (gonna be a f000ker) undo gearbox nuts drop weight enough to allow gearbox to slide off. them driveshaft bolts are awkward to say the least, bit of spray oil, clean with the wire brush and smack with the hammer wont hurt, dont forget the clutch aint gonna line itself up and u may need 2 people (les/carol on driveshaft). the box will only drop if u lower engine mark the linkage and hope everything goes back together flush, weathers gonna be nice so get a few beers in:) polos are sh!te! get yourself a proper car and dont listen to muppets  :wink:
xx
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dizzie on 05 July 2006, 10:59
she has a lush mk1 cab also...
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 12:41
thanx audi100q! i think its leaking oil atm..but wen the clutch gets done, gonna have a looksee around it then..
thanx diz, but thats bloke, he knows.. :wink: and hes after the polo for him..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: GazB on 05 July 2006, 16:19
You wanna get in touch with Carpy(carpy25) and Velly(sportline_velly) from Newport, they are both on here and both have Polo GT's :cool:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: richandhazel on 05 July 2006, 16:33
Fuel system on it is the same as mk2 Golf digifant so you may find a related problem that you can cross refer too.
At a guess, I would look at fuel pump/filter/clogging as it sounds like fuel starvation. We still have our little Polo GT, just sailed through the MOT without a single advisory.

Clutch will be exactly the same as a golf 1.1, 1.3. I concur with Corin about the starter motor.........real pig to get at!
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: [han] on 05 July 2006, 17:36
diane, i dont know why ur asking, paul shudda fixed it neway! :evil: if u find out wha the cuttin out problem is lemme know, a guy at work is having same prob, warm weather only!
hugs xx

Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 20:36
thanx for the input guys...
totally forgot about u havin a polo Rich...and vr's reply was helpful..
will do han, but like the guys have said, could be a number of things which i need to check so maybs pass this onto ur friend?! as he may find his quicker than i do?
paul aint been near it since its started doing these things and is more a mk1 dude than polo.. :laugh:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 21:08
Like i said, if you can be more detailed about the cutting out problem, is it when its hot/cold? will the car idle?
any details and i might be able to point you in the right direction...  :smiley:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 21:19
okies...ill try..but ya kna wot im like corin (dont dare say anything)
rite..wen i first turned it over, it didn idle properly, but its done this a few times and has even just died...then t'other day,turned over, was rough but ok, reversed and drove it for about 1/2 mins and it just lost its revs and sort of spluttered along..but didn die completly...
but like i say, im sure i seen seem oil leaking (was late for work so didn have chance to look and aint been to check-sorry) which seemed to be drippin onto the alternator..
but also, not that im convinced this has any bearing, but it may, my alarm has started going off on its own accord, sumthing its never done.. :undecided:
i know clutch is on its way out and that hasnt help matters...but thats gettin sorted this week..
dunno if u can make any sense of that, but thanx for your input so far..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 21:21
When it dies, does the car lose ALL power? like does all the dash go off as well?
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 21:25
no, goes back to ignition...but thats happened previously..didn happen the other day

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 21:28
The cam cover gasket often leaks on these cars(like most cars :laugh:), problem with the polo engine is the oil can leak directly onto the alternator, and this of course can cause electrical problems.
If the leak is bad, remove the alternator, and take the case off, see what condition its in, it might need to be renewed. However if you can, clean it up, and obviously replace the cam cover gasket.
If this isn't your problem then it sounds like its fuel related. As Rich said above, try replacing the fuel filter, or put some redex fuel cleaner in the tank.
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 21:30
tried the redex thing before chuck...but will do wot u said about the alternator..cos it looked canny horrid the other mornin..
cheers hun..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 21:32
Its a known problem on polo's, oil leaking out the cam cover onto the alternator, causing all sorts of problems.
Is the cutting out problem intermittant? does the car accelerate well when it runs?
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 21:34
it used to...slowly got worse...
i know its hesitant wen u put ur foot down anyhoo..but wen it got going was ok..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: tomo320 on 05 July 2006, 21:35
is the fuel pump on the 1272 single point same as multi point?
cheers,
paul
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 21:36
What year is the car?
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 21:38
93 hun
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 21:42
So it will be closed loop lambda control.
I would suggest not driving the car if you can, as you could end up with a knackered catalyser  :angry:
Thats if the fuelling is wrong.
Go to Halfords and get a gunston colortune, its like a spark plug with a window so you can see the colour of the mixture, or get the emissions tested.
I say this because it could be a failed lambda sensor. Just another possibility.
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 21:45
nah..left it on the drive after kickin sh!te out if tbh.. lol

okies vr..cheers
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 21:47
Another tip for ya, remove the spark plugs to see what colour they are.
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 21:51
wen i got it, about 2month ago, sparks were done within like a mini service...

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 21:51
is the fuel pump on the 1272 single point same as multi point? -do u know the answer to that corin?

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: tomo320 on 05 July 2006, 21:53
the mixtures fine, the timings done. any ideas on the fuel pump, worth trying air flow meter?
cheers,
paul
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 21:59
is the fuel pump on the 1272 single point same as multi point? -do u know the answer to that corin?

Dinx :kiss:


The fuel pump on my polo is mounted unfer the car with the filter, so i would say probably yes, the pump is likely to be the same.
Since the pump is mounted in a very vunerable position, i think it is worth checking the condition of the wiring.
BTW just because the plugs were done a couple of months ago doesn't mean they aren't f**ked now.
I wasn't saying the plugs were the problem, i was saying they give pretty good clues to what is going on in the combustion chamber, so lift one out and have a look!!
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 05 July 2006, 22:01
oh aye..i know that...but with them being done so recently..ud be able to see pretty quickly if they were fcuked..

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: tomo320 on 05 July 2006, 22:18
cheers mate, mixture seems healthy whatever the temp. of engine. all the pumps are located under the car just wondered if they offered different pressures depending on engine? you might be onto summat with the plugs cos i aint convinced they are right ones! which ones u got in yours?
cheers,
paul
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2006, 22:23
Not sure mate, anyway mines a 1.0L code AAU, 45 bhp  :laugh:
Very similar to the 1.3 single point injection.
Do you think the fuel pump is dodgey then?
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: tomo320 on 05 July 2006, 23:10
cheers for that mate, i dunno but ill let u know outcome, fekin thing :) gonna have a proper go at it this weekend, them multi point injection engines have an air-flow meter n all, i dont know much about em' but if it was a golf i wud be suspect,
cheers for your help,
paul
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: richandhazel on 06 July 2006, 12:08
Just to answer a question from further back. The Polo GT, or at least mine which is on a 1991 plate, is multi-point injection, exactly the same as the mk2 Golf GTI digifant. Not single point injection!

Can you hear the fuel pump spin over and prime the fuel system when you switch the ignition on, same as a mk1/2 Golf GTI? How does the fuel pump sound?

Just going to try and find my receipt to see which plugs I fitted to mine.........if the problem started when you fitted them then I would suggest that is a good place to look too.
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: richandhazel on 06 July 2006, 12:22
Haven't got the receipt to hand but I think you will find they are Beru W6DTC or Bosch WR6DC+

I think its the '6' that is significant as other are 5, 7, 8 etc.....
Title: Re: Help!! Polo Gt!
Post by: Dinky on 06 July 2006, 13:07
nah...started after that, thanx rich..

Dinx :kiss: