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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Bdub on 16 December 2003, 12:18
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Hi Guys and Gals,
I currently run a MK II 8v GTI ( 1989 ) and I'm looking at a mint Mk III 5 dr 2.0 GTI with 75k on the clock, Any ideas what it's worth?
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WHATEVER you do make sure you buy a 16v mk3 as the 8v is a great car unfortunately everything on the road is faster than it!!!!
ive got a 8v and im after a mk2 now 16v preferably
My 95 mk3 gti 8v with 84k is worth around 3k if that helps any!!!!
Scott
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Thanks Scott,
Good advice - My Mk II 8v is not the quickest but it still catches a few people out! I certainly don't want anything slower - What's the 0-60 time for a MK III 8v?
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6 weeks ::) oops i mean about 10.3 secs
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thanks for reminding me JV :'(
they are really slow but ever so popular you must agree there are so many out there.....
mine has been a great car reliability wise it's been the best car ive owned but i wished i searched for a 16v version or even vr6!!!
good luck in your search
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Mine kicks. Its lower on insurance and less complicated to work on than the 16 valve. :)
Plenty fast for me at 22. I would like more speed but i am happy to climb the performance ladder slowly and safely. Another 100bhp would make me a danger right now. ::)
I love my 8 valve and she loves me. The right driving and the right mods and they are quicker than ya think! Mines at 135bhp rolling roaded last month. ;D
P.S. Its not the lump that slows her down. The engine is bloody fast if you got it in anything else it would fly. The Mk3 is just so bloody heavy.
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unfortunately everything on the road is faster than it!!!!
No its not
oops i mean about 10.3 secs
thats the official quote yes... but its total BS... MG say their ZR 1.4 does it in under 10secs.. HAHAHHA no chance, ive drove a Rover 25 with that engine.
Whatcar quote the mk4 GTi 2.0 as 9.0secs to 60mph as does Parkers Car Guide, and thats heavier than the mk3.
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VW Golf mk3 8v '91-'98
The all new Golf arrived in 1992, and was promptly christened "Car of the Year" - but not "Hot Hatch of the Year". That's because it was bigger, safer and heavier. Despite that blobby body being very slippery with a drag factor between 0.30 and 0.33, it was seriously heavy. The original GTi weighed 844kg, and the mk2 was up to 1032kg. The power-weight ratio had slipped from 133bhp per ton. That translated into a top speed of 124mph and a sluggish 0-60 mph time of 8.7 seconds - surprising, as the new GTi had a larger 2.0 litre engine with Digifant multi-point electronic fuel injection system and regulated catalytic converter. With an enlarged bore and stroke at 82.5mm and 92.8mm respectively, the output rose to 115bhp at 5400rpm. At least it looked the par, with it's colour-coded two-bar grille, black wheelarches and bumper extension, rear spoiler, tinted rear light clusters, 6.5jx15 in Long Beach alloys and twin exhaust pipes. Inside came sports seats, electric windows, on board computer and height-adjustable sports steering wheel. Handling-wise it was a lot softer and more refined. Basically, it was a modified mk2 set-up with standard power steering. The GTi had lost it's touch, but at least it could be fixed by any good modifier. From September 1992 came split rear seats and, a year later, passenger seat height adjustment formed part of the package. October 1994 was safety month, as ABS brakes, driver's airbag and immobiliser were all included - but a sun-roof became a cost option. July 1995 saw the arrival of rounded side repeaters and a bee-sting aerial. May 1996 marked the 20th anniversary of the GTi, hence the 600 unit limited-edition Anniversary, with red alloys and traditional Golf ball gearknob. King of the limited editions though was the Colour Concept, in April 1995, available in yellow, red, blue or green, with matching leather Recaros, silver-faced instruments and 6.5 in Solitude alloys. The eight-valve was deleted in November 1997.
... and theres a website all about it too.
and I reckon it can do it in that... on a flat.. with a good engine, not a shagged heap
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Mk3 8 valve has gotta be under 10 secs, but that aint just what its about, I've also got a Passat 1.8 Turbo Sport which has 150bhp 8.6 0-60 time and feels a lot quicker in a straight line but on the twisty stuff I know the Golfs gonna beat it. The Passat's got uprated suspension in sport form but the MK3 'boat' feels more balanced and hugs the bends better, god I love it so much I'm seriously considering not selling it!
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Mk4 2.0 0-60 in 9 sec, sorry but that is bollox :D
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erm just my two pence here but there was two versions of the mk3 gti..... errrrr the 8v and 16v!!!!
the 16v did it in the 8.7 sec time and the 8v was over 10 secs!
the 8v is very slow and alwasy involves dropping down two gears to get to go it has no pull in forth at 50mph and absolutely no go in 5th from 70 mph if you need to get round anything on the carriage way quickly that is however does handle well due when you uprate everything ;D and when it gets going it feels like a juggernought so get some good brakes
Scott
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Also
check this out event his site agrees with me
http://www.golfgti.co.uk/viewfeature.asp?featureID=11
the 8v is slow and above 10 secs well only just ;D
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erm just my two pence here but there was two versions of the mk3 gti..... errrrr the 8v and 16v!!!!
the 16v did it in the 8.7 sec time and the 8v was over 10 secs!
the 8v is very slow and alwasy involves dropping down two gears to get to go it has no pull in forth at 50mph and absolutely no go in 5th from 70 mph if you need to get round anything on the carriage way quickly that is however does handle well due when you uprate everything ;D and when it gets going it feels like a juggernought so get some good brakes
Scott
First of all, the number quoted in that article are for the 8v, as the 16v didn't launch until 1994 and didn't have 115bhp. The 8v gets to 60 a lot faster than 10seconds from personal experience. In fact, it sounds like something is deeply up with your car, as I've noticed the 8v doesn't have to pushed that hard to be the fastest thing on the road. Say for instance, leaving roadworks on the motorway doing 50mph. In mine, I leave it in top, bury the throttle and off it goes, digging deep and leaving everyone else who didn't bother changing gear well behind. I've timed 50-70 in top in my car, and it does it in 8 seconds dead, which is a pretty respectable time for a hot hatch (the 8v's torque serves it well here).
I also draw issue with people who rag on the Mk3's handling. It may be a tad softer than the Mk2 but it still grips tenaciously, the front end refusing to head wide at the slightest provocation (unlike the rubbery vague mess that is a Mk4), and the back end is even game for a bit of stepping out action, if you know what you're doing with it anyway.
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Come on the 8v isn't that fast is it, the thing about 8v being torquey is a myth. The 8v engine does not have a lot of torque.
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vr6 i hav to agree with you again mate . people say that the 16v is fairly slow to "get up and go " which i also think is crap i've driven both 8 and 16v golfs and the 16v does it for me everytime. pulls like F...............
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the 16v did it in the 8.7 sec time and the 8v was over 10 secs!
the 8v is very slow and alwasy involves dropping down two gears to get to go it has no pull in forth at 50mph and absolutely no go in 5th from 70 mph if you need to get round anything on the carriage way quickly that is however does handle well due when you uprate everything and when it gets going it feels like a juggernought so get some good brakes
Have u EVER driven an 8v???
no pull in 4th at 50mph??? what the hell r u smoking? ...
5th gear has no pull over 70mph?? WTF??? it does almost 125Mph!!! it easily pulls at 70Mph... hence overtaking at that speed.
I think if u have driven an 8v then theres two things: -
1: U aint got a clue how to drive properly
2: U had a knackered old shed with 2000000000 miles on it...
I can outpace a VTR and thats a 9.5sec car to 60mph from zero. and Ive got a hella good 8v.
I agree with Budhi... he's spot on.
oh and
there was two versions of the mk3 gti..... errrrr the 8v and 16v!!!!
Heres a star ... *
well done for noticing what we've been asking about for 10years!
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i have yet to nuke an 8v.. and they always look embarrased to me.. prob like me and the vr6ers ;) lol
the 16v has bags of torque.. (thats a standard measure u know :P)
the car is *still* eager to pull in 5th at over 130.. (errm.. lol) i've yet to find the top end.. at motorway speeds (80+) i've out accelerated everything similar thats had a go..
if you cant afford / or wont pay the insurance for a vr6 then get a 16v (like i id), if u just want the gti badge.. get the 8v
if you're stuck between the varying opinions here go and try both.. the come back and tell everyone :)
btw from the kinda mileage you're talking, but without mention age... for a 16v you'll be looking at about 4500 quid (which is exactly what i paid for mine after i knocked em down :))
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Right you lot these are the official figures from the mk3 golf owners handbook.
2.0 GTI 8v 0-62mph 10.9 secs
2.0 GTI 16v 0-62mph 8.7 secs
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thanks golf vr6 for your support but these lot seem to not understand black and white figures ::) there living in dream world
and erm by the way ive driven 3 different mk3 gti 8v's when looking for the one ive got and and all of them were the same on performance!
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Hate to rain on anyones parade but i've got an 8v (mint - 97/R plate - 68k miles with FSH so i know its up to power) and its performance is, well, dire compared to what you expect of a GTI. On its own its ok, but having had some pokey motors its pretty slow as far as i'm concerned.
I would say 0-60 in my experience between 9.5 & 10.5 depending on air temperature and the mood of the thing. mostly its around 9.8. But then we would be assuming my speedo is 100% right which it probably isnt (most run 7% fast).
Its ok in 1st and 2nd. Bit poor in 3rd and 4th and not too bad in 5th. Dont have many problems between 70&100 but over 100 its a bit asthmatic.
At the end of the day it only has 115bhp and isnt that light so it is never going to set the world on fire.
As much as i'd like to defend the car it is, and i've said this before, more like a GL than a GTI. I figure because i have driven other quick cars and it isnt that great in comparison. its ok, but not fast. nowhere near it. my mate has a 300bhp+ Sunny GTI-R. Now thats fast.
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The thing is, whilst in a straight line the 8v might not be the fastest thing on the road (and I'm sure the fact that a 300bhp Sunny is faster than it caused the boys at Wolfsburg a sleepless night or two) it can keep up with theoretically far quicker cars. I can keep my father's 320d honest - and I know for a fact that is not a slow car. VTR's and 306 XSI's are easy to keep station with when the going gets twisty, and you are safe in the knowledge you're unlikely to end up in a hedge, unlike any VTS's being driven hard enough to lose it.
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The mk3 gti is a good solid car but it isn't fast. All this stuff about the 8v have more torque low down than a 16v is a bit of nonsense. The 16v is altogether a much better engine, much more of a gti, and very under-rated in my opinion.
If you want a really fast mk3 then buy a vr6, now thats a proper gti!
Ho Ho Ho
:D :D :D
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2.0 GTI 8v 0-62mph 10.9 secs
What owners hand book have u got?
Mine states (IN BLACK AND WHITE) 10.2secs
16v - 8.7
vr6 - 7.4 or summet
... and 8.7secs for a 150Bhp car is sh!t ... no offence
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I can't be botheredto check my handbook for the times but I'm sure a mk2 16v does it in 8 secs dead. If that's right then something obviously went wrong after that... ???
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The 16v is CAPABLE of 8.0secs but the handbook states 8.7secs
just like the 8v seems capable of 8.7/9.0 secs but the book states 10.2 (or 10.9 for the partially blind) ::)
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2.0 GTI 8v 0-62mph 10.9 secs
What owners hand book have u got?
Mine states (IN BLACK AND WHITE) 10.2secs
16v - 8.7
vr6 - 7.4 or summet
... and 8.7secs for a 150Bhp car is sh!t ... no offence
Er the owners handbook that comes with the car.
I'll write it out for you
85kw 0-100 km/h 10.9 secs
Thats the same as 0-62mph
VW are conservative with their figures, so it will be faster than that. But still not very fast is it?
:D
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The 16v is CAPABLE of 8.0secs but the handbook states 8.7secs
just like the 8v seems capable of 8.7/9.0 secs but the book states 10.2 (or 10.9 for the partially blind) ::)
The 8v is not capable of doing it in 8.7/9.0. Just face it your car is a plodder.
:D
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This saturday (if the roads a not slippery) ill get my bro in the car with a stopwatch... find a nice clear flat road and blitz it.
If I get pulled he can show his warrant card 8)
...I promise u MY CAR CAN GET TO 60mph in 9.0secs!!!
I've done it counting... but thats not exactly reliable.
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If the 8v does in 9 then my car does it in 5
:D
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5secs?? that old tank? ... does it have tracks or wheels? :-*
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Yep, its an old tank, but it does have a decent engine in it, it does 0-60 before next week.
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Im arguing with a moderator... heh heh .. classic
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classic... like your car. :-*
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It is a classic and is capable of pulling the skin off a rice pudding, unlike some engines.
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ok then kids calm down. this is getting boring now. :D
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unlike some engines.
Rover 200 1.1?
... or a run down tank VR6? ...
VR6 = Abrams
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I'm gonna do an engine conversion tomorrow, i'm gonna rip out the vr6 engine and put one of those 'torquey' 8v lumps in.
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Yep there proper 'bo i tell thee.
more mpg and they dont break down.. and if they do they cost less to fix... and the VR6 badge looks w@nk compared to a GTI cos young girls recognise the GTI badge as a sign of "come ride me"
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How young?
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16-20
my age group... u know.. moist, firm, pointing upward etc.... 8)
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You like things that point upwards then? :D
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Pointing at me is nice.
...nice firm, round, suckulant breasts. mmmm
::)
none of this gravity effect rubbish
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Im glad we got the 0-60 time of an 8v sorted out then infact if we keep going it might be next year which is about right for an 8v ;D
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Sorry - just logged on and missed all the posts since mine on page 2!!!
Bodhi - sorry mate but i had a Peugeot 306 XSI (135bhp model - 98/S) and there is no way, no way in hell an 8V would keep up in a straight line, and absolutely no way in the twisty's. My VW is far more twitchy and flexy than my 306 - in fact my 306 would absolutely kick its arse over any course - and both my golf and 306 were bog standard.
In fact my 306 could kick a mk3 gti 8v & 16v in a straight line and round the bends. Superb car but a bit rattly. Kinda wished i hadnt sold it!!
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pimpster couldn't agree more!!!!
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Cheers mate, I may have an 8V but it doesnt mean i cant be honest about it!
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U just wait till I test it
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Don't matter what you say Blackgti, 0-60 on a mk3 gti 8v IS 10.9 secs.
:D
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Sorry GolfVR6 - Me and you see eye to eye most times but it definitely isnt 10.9. It really is more like a late 9's -flat 10.
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I know Pimpster, vw time is always more than it really is. Blackgti just likes me mentioning it ;)
:-*
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vw factory figures are done with a passenger & half a tank of fuel
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But is that a German passenger - 18 stone, dressed in leiderhosen with a silly hat, vienerschnitzel in one hand, jug of volksburg brew in the other, big lumping great german beard and 5 porn films in each pocket?
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These 0-62 times u talk of VR6 you know the ones that you say vw are 'conservative' with i.e. wrong, I think everyone who has driven, owned one will agree that its sub 10 even Parkers give it 10 secs. Also are these figures taken from a new car? as we all know the engines start to get good at around 40k reaching their best at 60k when good n loose and probably half a second quicker to 60.
Another thing VR6 congratulations on becoming a moderator just a tip try to be more objective when talking about GTI's be it in 8 or 16 valve guise. I know you dont own a GTI but this is the site for GTI's
Cheers mate.
Bye
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Still biting then Glen
Ho Ho Ho
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And the reason some of you always bite on this topic, is that some people just can't except the 8v gti is not a performance car. So i'm not actually slagging them, i said they are good, solid and reliable, but NOT fast.
I'm happy to help anyone with any golf, be a gti,vr6 or even a 1.4. I just like facts not fiction. The 8v gti is not a performance car so just EXCEPT it.
Merry christmas
Ho Ho Ho
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As i said the manufacturers 0-60 is always a bit slow. The valver will do it in 8 secs, the 8v in 9-5/10, not fast is it?
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the 8v in 9-5/10, not fast is it?
what happened to 10.9?
you've just knocked off 1.5secs.... awwwwwww.... ur such a sweetie :-*
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If you read properly then you would have seen that i said that the manufacturers 0-60 is a bit slow. I just kept putting it on here 10.9 sec 10.9 sec to wind you up!
10.9 sec
10.9 sec
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Least my alloys are nicer than VR6 ones.... horrid looking things... all wirey and unneccesary
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VR6 is FAST
8v ISN'T
Ha Ha :-*
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8 valve IS a GTI VR6 isnt f*ck off!
ho ho ho
;D
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Oh and by the way yes I do bite 'cause I think as a moderator of a GTI website you should be a GTI owner, yes VR6 is a monster car (I love 'em) but it aint a GTI, last time I looked the 8 valve had a GTI badge the VR6 dont. It doesnt even look like a GTI, question VR6 what are you doing here? No VR6 website to pester?
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Oh and by the way yes I do bite 'cause I think as a moderator of a GTI website you should be a GTI owner, yes VR6 is a monster car (I love 'em) but it aint a GTI, last time I looked the 8 valve had a GTI badge the VR6 dont. It doesnt even look like a GTI, question VR6 what are you doing here? No VR6 website to pester?
Vr6 does look like a gti, just has a vr6 badge. It runs like a gti unlike the gti ;)
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You got me riled now, at the end of the day people get obsessed with cars, whether they go quick or not, the Triumph Vitesse has a massive following but it aint 'vitesse' anymore not compared with todays motors, i just dont think you get it, I mean you dont slate the mk1 1600CC fella do ya? (thats not quick) Its all about the GTI badge what it means, the history, the classless status, the package, the originality, you have no right as a 'moderator' (ahem) to even start to demean any GTI even if you do mean it as a 'wind up' VR6 make up you're mind which side of the fence you sit on otherwise I WILL KICK YOU OFF IT, try me . . .
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Now now, behave young man, no threats on the forum :-*
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I have every right, moderator or not. I am just talking facts, mk3 gti is a nice car but just very slow.
:D
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Woah a minute! VR6 looks like a GTI? does it? Hows that the badge? no, the wheels? no, the plastic bits over the arches and down the side of the car? no, the seats? no, mmmm I'm struggling now er the spoiler? yes!
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All gti/vr6 models look fairly similar. Some are fast, some are not ;) :D
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All Golf's look similar only one looks like a GTI
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There is 2 real gtis in the mk3 range, 16v and vr6. 8v is just a GL.
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GL? I have no idea what the f*ck your'e talking about, it says GTI on the back & front of mine I even checked the logbook still said GTI, sorry mate in none of my language books do I see VR6 a translation for GTI, maybe you're a cling on???? :-*
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SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW :-*
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so whats goin on in here then?????? :D :D :D ho ho ho merry xmas ;D
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SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW :-*
What happened to the last answer to this one? you deleted it. whats the point in entering into an argument with you if you just delete the ones you get beat with? What is the point?
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so we have people in here with out a 'gti' badge?, so what?, wether there 'mods' or not they have gained that status by offering help,interest and publicity to the site, im sorry but in my eyes a vr6 badge means 'fast golf' wether its a gti or not, same as a mk4 'v6 4motion' is not a 'gti' but is still a 'fast' golf, what is your problem?????
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My 'problem' is having my car an 8 valve GTI slated by a 'moderator' I have no problem with any VR6 if you read my posts you will see I love em as I do VR6 4motion. What I do have a problem with is people taking the piss out of the 8 valve after all it is a GTI. VR6 has offered a lot of good advice in his posts undoubted, I have taken some of it, but now he has 'crossed' the line into moderator status and therefore in my humble opinion should be all embracing in the GTI marque. Just my opinion but I believe it is valid.
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ok matey what ever, i havent read posts in details but im sure any jibes at an 8v are made in a fun way, hey my 2 golfs aint fast matey, but am i bothered no!! dont let out get to yas and enjoy the site!!!,vr6 embraces all of the golf 'marques' as you put it as he frequently works on all varieties of vw, and has a vast amount of knowledge to offer us all, im sure it is all in fun and youve taken it the wrong way matey :D :D :D
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it seems golfvr6 is the only one chatting any truth here,oh well mate someones gotta teach them ;)
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i havent read the post fully but i gotta admit the 8v's like mine are slow but i dont care. :-*
The 8v GTi might not be a performance car but it is setup diffrent to the other non GTi's right?
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8 valve IS a GTI VR6 isnt f*ck off!
heh that was a classic line!
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My GTI 8v gets to 60mph in 9.2secs ... with a passenger and half a tank of fuel!!!
....im telling u it CAN do it in 8.7secs...get the stig to test it!
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I think Glen has crossed the line from being a decent funny bloke into a bit of a willy head.
Ho Ho Ho
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Ps. If you don't like me being a Moderator Glen then pee off
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All this over a GTI.
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Ah well , thats what happens in this life, get attacked for telling the truth.
:D
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it seems golfvr6 is the only one chatting any truth here,oh well mate someones gotta teach them ;)
Respect to you geezer :D
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Golf VR6 is not slating the 8v all hes doing is telling the truth and that is the 8v is slow slow slow!!!!!
hey i own a 8v and i cant agree more it is slow and another thing getting your mate to time you whilst driving is very innaccurate!!!! and there is no way in hell that a standard 8v could do it in 8.7 secs!!!! maybe 10.7 ;D
so believe this yes it does gti on the back of a 8v and vr6 on the back of a 2.8 golf...... AND if you remember it was only in 96 when the vr6 lost the gti body kit as up to that point it had all the same trimmings and more (leather) as a gti 8v but went sooooooooo much faster!!!! ;D
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Not wishing to carry this on much further but here are my comments on this row:
Firstly, you have to remember which mk golf you are talking about when you are moaning at each other. mk1 and mk2 8v's have similar 0-60 times and 'feel' quick. A mk3 8v is a lot slower to 60 and does not 'feel' anywhere near as fast. The mk3 8v is still a good car but in my opinion is not fast enough to truely warrant the GTI badge.
Secondly, the '8v has more torque' arguement is only relevant in the mk2 8v versus 16v debate. This is a boring old one that regularly comes up on this and every other Golf forum. After owning both models, I think the 8v is more enjoyable in 'urban' driving where it's low-rev performance is more fun than the 16v where you need to give it more stick. The 16v is quicker to 60 and for blasting along the motorway, noticably faster than the 8v.
The problem with this and every other forum is that people can say things that they would never do face-to-face. From what I have read golfvr6 offers a lot of good technical advice. Unfortunately, he also tends to be rather nasty once he gets wound up. To be a moderator you need to have a balanced view of all the postings. Hopefully everyone can be a bit more chilled out about it all. We share an interest in performance Golf's so lets keep it sociable.
jv
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Thanx Jv. I thought i was getting better recently ::)
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You are, I just think you need to resist encouraging the arguements sometimes :)
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Yep , i know. I'm like in a real life too, if i know something is wrong then i always say so. I need to button my lip sometimes, he he he :D
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Mk3 8 valve = slow!
mk2 8v = bit quicker
mk3 16v bit more quicker
mk2 16v = quicker still!
The best i reckon is the gti g60 synchro 16v. find one of those then!
(factory original!)
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Never driven a mk3 16v tho.....
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dont want to drive a mk3 8v again tho ;)
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Mr veedubs motor is fast , top mk2 that ;)
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Right.
All the people who have said the Mk3 8v is fast are wrong,myself probably included. It isn't.
However, all the people who said the Mk3 8v is slow are also wrong - it isn't. Pimpster - the only reason I know a Mk3 can hold station with a 306 XSi is because I've done it, and I must say, the Golf felt a lot more comfortable than the 306 looked.
The Mk3 can hold its own in a backroad duel, and is far from a GL with a GTi bodykit (I always thought that was the Driver anyway).
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The mk3 8v is tuneable. Filter, exhaust,cam and chip will give the car a very respectable bhp.
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Mk3 8 valve = slow!
mk2 8v = bit quicker
?? I do NOT get this... the mk2 is about 100kb lighter, fair enuff, but the mk3 has better engine management, better fuel management etc etc
better everything.
Oh and a mk2 16v cant even stay with a Rover 420GSI.
... mk2 16v cant stay with an old mans family car of the same age.
... so lets just say... mk2 8v/16v and mk3 8v aint the fastest.
and the mk3 16v isnt as quick as a Astra GSI 16v with the same Bhp.
nuff said on that front me thinks.
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I thought you liked golfs?
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I do.
Thats why I own one...
but if you lot diss the 8v (my car) then I'll bring yours down to earth also... ;)
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Er yep if you say so
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nothing wrong with 8v's
but i aint gonna lose the plot about it!
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Bodhi - i dont disbelieve you when you say you kep up with an XSI - there are 2 versions after all - a 123bhp version - pre april 98 and the 135bhp version - post april 98. I had the 135bhp and it had amazing handling. I have to say that having owned both i feel a lot lot more comfortable pushing the 306 hard than the Golf.
To everyone who thinks the Golf is fast (!) would say i can understand why if you havent driven anything else as pokey. However, go and drive a few more cars in the same class to realise that it really isnt that fast or quick at all.
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I think i've given up on this one now ::)
If people are happy with their motors then good for them :)
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are you happy with yours golfvr6? ... u know... its getting on a bit now...
heh heh j/k
ok folks BIG HUG.... we're al GTI fans and if u have a 1.6mk1, 8v mk3 or a 8v mk4 (even the short lived 20v non turbo), your still a "cooler" person and have more taste than a person driving a 1.4 SR Nova!
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errr im happy with both of mine thanks and yes i have got one of them er in brackets (short lived 1.8 20v models), oh yeah and ive got a mk2 8v old skool, and i wouldnt call either slow, yeah they arnt full on 150bhp+ monsters but who gives a flyin f@ck!!!, i bought em both cause they was at a good price, that and i ilike me vws, and if i want 'speed' i shall buy another motorbike!! (not long flogged me gsxr1100l)!!!!!
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are you happy with yours golfvr6? ... u know... its getting on a bit now...
heh heh j/k
ok folks BIG HUG.... we're al GTI fans and if u have a 1.6mk1, 8v mk3 or a 8v mk4 (even the short lived 20v non turbo), your still a "cooler" person and have more taste than a person driving a 1.4 SR Nova!
Yep i am happy thankyou.
I like older cars particularly mk2 and mk3 golfs. I like the old shape Audis as well, the 80/90 and coupe are well nice. And the Audi quattro turbo is one of the all time greats.
My next car will be a S2 or S4, and i won't be buying anything new.
I think in my opinion older cars have more character, but not too old, as can become costly.
If you go and buy a car about 6 years old, where some old geezer has owned it, you will get a near immaculate motor for a tiny fraction of the original asking price. Just have to have an eye for bargain and not mind doing a few mechanical repairs.
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If you go and buy a car about 6 years old, where some old geezer has owned it, you will get a near immaculate motor for a tiny fraction of the original asking price.
.. I did that. '97 P reg.
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The vr is a 95M, and i bought it in 2002 for ?5500 with 58k on it.
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Not too bad.
Too high insurance for me tho
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Yep, insurance is still a sh!t at 30 ! >:(
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30? I thought u were like 23 or summet.
... eeek im only 19... 18 when I bought the car. LOL