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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: rowlers on 26 May 2006, 17:26

Title: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rowlers on 26 May 2006, 17:26
Anyone  no where I can get a front subframe from?? It is has just fell to bits, engine has broken off, big hole under the engine mount, and another hole starting to appear at other side???

How easy are they to remove/fit. Local garage says I can do it myself if I want, but don't know where to start

Help needed urgently, needs to be back on road quick!

Cheers folks
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: Ozz on 26 May 2006, 17:48
Woulve thought your best bet would be to find someone local who'se breaking a mk2 and grab one out of there. No idea what kind of a job it is tho!! But if you do take it out of a car you'll have a better idea of how to refit it!
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rowlers on 26 May 2006, 18:23
managed to source one in an hour!

Guy in Preston has one in good nick. Picking up on sunday.

Will let you know how I get on!

Anything else I need to change while I'm at it :undecided:

(PS where rubjonny when you need him! :laugh:)
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rubjonny on 26 May 2006, 22:03
Right here :cool:

Its an easy job:
1. Support engine with trolley jack
2. Remove bumper (2 17mm bolts either side)
3. Remove the smaller subframe bolt from each side (between the 2 big bolts you removed to get the bumper off)
4. The rusty subframe will now drop off
5. Refitting is reverse of removal :)
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rowlers on 27 May 2006, 13:00
That sounds too easy!

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b253/rowlers/subframe.jpg)

Its part number 20 that effed, are you talking about the fron bit (number 2)?


cheers
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: ...joe on 27 May 2006, 15:42
rart 20 is the subframe yeah, but to be fair i thought you were talking about your cross member from your description. the subframe is alot more work but just a matter of supporting the engine, then undoing evrything that ic connected to the subframe. ie steering rack, engine mounts etc
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rowlers on 27 May 2006, 19:07
do I need to renew anything else while I'm there?
Anything likely to break/snap etc.. during removal???

appolgies for confusion! :wink:
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rubjonny on 27 May 2006, 19:30
just to be clear you defo arnt talking about the bit at the front under the radiator?  If not then its a little harder as you have to support the engine & the gearbox, plus swap the anti roll bar etc.  Not only that you have the risk that the subframe captive nuts will shear off :cry:

I'd recommend that you replace the rear engine mount with a 16v G60 one while you have the room:
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1595
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rowlers on 27 May 2006, 20:24
defo not the front one under rad. Had it up on the ramp.

what happens if the nuts sheer off?? Can't get bolt out? (angle grinder??) then new bolts?
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: ...joe on 28 May 2006, 09:12
the steering rack bolts are sort of captive and the nuts are the way of tightening/loosening, not fun if they are knackered!! i had a few blue word when i replaced mine!
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: Uruk Hai on 29 May 2006, 19:19
I found this, not sure if its the bit you want but it seems like it ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MK2-GOLF-GTI-FRONT-SUBFRAME-CROSS-MEMBER_W0QQitemZ4643582574QQcategoryZ9889QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rubjonny on 29 May 2006, 22:52
aye to fix them captive nuts involves cutting a hole in the footwell and welding them back down!  Not a job for the faint hearted  :grin:
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rowlers on 30 May 2006, 19:57
I bought a subframe off the same bloke he had 2, cost £35.
Doing the Job on saturday, got my Dads Mk4 Ani to drive about in (he's in Barbados, so don't tell anyone I borrowed it :grin:)
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: Uruk Hai on 30 May 2006, 20:14
Fair play mate good luck  :wink:
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rowlers on 03 June 2006, 14:01
well its done, only took 3 and a bit hours this morning, which I didn't think was too bad considering I've not done this before!

Only problem I had was 1 anti roll bar linkage snapped when I was taking it off (the bit that connects the anti roll bar to the wishbone), I've got 2 coming on monday, so will get them fitted then.

The tracking is now out slightly and I'm guessing camber as well cos the steering is very light now!
maybe cos anti roll not connected though?

Hopefully this is the only probelm for a good while!!! :wink: :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: Oh No!! Subframe required!
Post by: rubjonny on 04 June 2006, 12:26
nice one chap  :cool: