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Title: MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Diluxe on 08 December 2003, 12:39
On another thread theres talk of door speakers for your MK2  and that you can by these speakers grills to prelace the pockets.

I've just been to VW bought 2 grills (21 quid) but for the life of me I cant see how I can fit the speaker, do I need to buy something else that will hold the speaker in place behind the grill or am i just being dumb....... :P

cheers
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Blue MK2 on 08 December 2003, 12:52
the speaker grills should have some twist on bolts. Does yours have these?
If they dont then take the rear speaker bolts and use them to secure the speakers to the grill.
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Diluxe on 08 December 2003, 13:06
Blue the speaker grill is  "just a plastic grill" with like four stalks one from each corner, I opened the pocket and i could see four holes in each corner that i presume these stalk things push through...................there isnt anything tappered that looks like bolts could get screwed on to it, I wonder if i've been given the right thing?

blast the cars going into have sounds fitted the wednesday and i really need these door things otherwsie they wont be able to fit the speakers  >:(

by the way what size speakers can i fit in the doors?

cheers

Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Dizzie on 08 December 2003, 13:16
speaker size has to 5 1/4 inch or 13cm whichever way you work.

the '4 stalks' go though the speakers mounting positions. there should be 4 nuts that hold the speaker to the bit. See pic

(http://www.dizzie.biz/misc/alpine.jpg)
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Blue MK2 on 08 December 2003, 13:21
go to the scrappy and nick the nut/bolt things :P.

If you are not using your rear standard speakers then just take them of the rear ones. ;D
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Diluxe on 08 December 2003, 13:35
Cheers dudes for the help,

just been out to look at the rears, and i can see that the stalks are groved so the nut can screw on to it, the ones i got are smooth so nothing for the bolt to screw down on...............................

theres is however at the bottom of the grill a little hole that the spare part guy said I need to put a screw through to attach the grill to the door, cant see that hole on yours Diz?
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Dizzie on 08 December 2003, 13:43
that holds it to the pocket. I used a screw that I got with my speakers. just a black self tapper will do the trick.

on my pic it's hidden by that mother of a magnet. it's there don't worry. make sure you put it in else when they hit a dr dre esq bass note they'll blow themselves out of the doors.
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Diluxe on 08 December 2003, 14:00
Diz,

trying to look closely at your pictur eit looks like you've actually cut away some of the platic in the door pocket hole, is that to help the speaker fit, or am i imaging it, have you a picture of the door pocket area with out the speaker in so i can get a better idea of what you've done.

Also that is one big mutha F'er of a speaker its depth look massive which spekaer is it i can see alpine cant make the last digit out on the model
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: reserves on 08 December 2003, 14:41
Taken from another post Dizzie's speakers are these:

http://www.cel-direct.com/detail.asp?ProductID=2142 (http://www.cel-direct.com/detail.asp?ProductID=2142)
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Blue MK2 on 08 December 2003, 15:05
Cheers dudes for the help,

just been out to look at the rears, and i can see that the stalks are groved so the nut can screw on to it, the ones i got are smooth so nothing for the bolt to screw down on...............................

theres is however at the bottom of the grill a little hole that the spare part guy said I need to put a screw through to attach the grill to the door, cant see that hole on yours Diz?


The smooth stalks are coz they are new grills, the nut will twist straight on nice and tight
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Diluxe on 08 December 2003, 15:37
Finally the penny has dropped !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

I must say hats off to you guys, i own a jap sports car aswell and you ask a newbie question on there and they just take the piss out of you and act like complete stuck up tossers, its must be true what they say a golf is a car for all classes

cheers

Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: dubslug on 08 December 2003, 17:32
cheers for giving a clear description once again guys as ive just come on here to ask the same question lol
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Hammy on 08 December 2003, 23:05
I had exactly the same thing when I bought my grills from the dealer..   What I had to do was use the fixings that came with the speakers (sort of push on one way spring washer) and drill them out slightly so that they would fit over the four plastic studs.  Fitted a treat and they have never budged since.

I must have been very lucky as they only charged me ?11 for the pair.  Either they got it wrong and charged me single price for a pair of grills or else you were diddled.. If you are happy with your price then I would keep schtum :)

Paul. :)
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Dizzie on 08 December 2003, 23:35
thank you reserves my son ;D

I haven't cut any plastic. I had to cut the actual door card to get them in there cos like you say those magnets are huge!

I found mine in a car in the scrappy when i was on a relay hunt last visit. Bought a audi throttle body and those adaptors for ?15. the speakers blew the grills off straight away though so I don't use them anymore..
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 10 December 2003, 12:38
anyone know a part number for the grilles? I missed a set that was going on ebay. ::) I have a set of Infinity Kappa 5 1/4 that would be nice in there. Gotta be better than the 3 1/2" VAG ones in the dash right now. Hopefully have the stealth shelf before long as well.  ;D
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: reserves on 10 December 2003, 18:57
Does anyone know the rough (or exact!) mounting depth the speaker can be before you have to cut the panel (which I won't do).

Also I know that 13cm & 5" components fit in the original door mounts but do 5.25" actually fit ??

has anyone got 5.25" comps fitted?

8916vGti, The grills are about 6.50 each from http://www.gpcvwaudi.com/
 (http://www.gpcvwaudi.com/)
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Diluxe on 10 December 2003, 22:23
well i've got the grills, dont know the part number just told the guy at the parts counter, and he knew exactly what i was going on about

i've just ordered a set of focals components, 5.25" i never though about the depth of the speaker to see if they would fit, should get them on friday be fitted by saturday so i can post up then and let you know, if no one replied before then

also I rang that place that does the speakers for 6.50 this is what he said "mate we have them in stock, but by the time i've added vat & p&p you'll only save yourself a quid compared to vag" so I got them same day from vag  ;D

cheers
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: reserves on 10 December 2003, 23:49
Diluxe,  let me know how it goes with the focals.

Which ones did you go for? What are you powering them with?

R
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Dizzie on 11 December 2003, 00:11
well you only have to cut a little bit out to fit mine in and those magnets are huge mofo's!
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Blue MK2 on 11 December 2003, 00:23
does your door have any rattles when blasting tunes Dizzy?

How does it sound? Crisp, Bassy, tweety?
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Diluxe on 11 December 2003, 09:02
I got some Focal Access 130A, about 130 from halfrauds or 120 on the net

I will have them running of an alpine 9815 headunit

hope it stops raining on saturday

I got bigger things to worry about at the moment have you guys read my post about "kangaroo golf"
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Dizzie on 11 December 2003, 10:53
sounds crisp enough. they're not mega bassy obviously due to their size and how they're mounted. but they give excellent sound in the front. I disconnected then and left the tweaters connected and you could defiently tell.
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: reserves on 22 December 2003, 15:58
Diluxe,

How do they sound?

R
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: dubslug on 22 December 2003, 16:16
i just fitted a set of jbls in mine improves the sound in there no end, well worth doing now gotta get an amp to run em properly
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: reserves on 22 December 2003, 16:30
Are they 5" or 5.25", i'm interested to see if the 5.25" speakers fit.

Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: dubslug on 22 December 2003, 16:34
i think there 5.25s
will go and have a look
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: dubslug on 22 December 2003, 16:43
the box only says 13cm on it but im sure thats also 5.25inch, they should fit the 5.25 speakers
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Gozza on 22 December 2003, 19:42
Out of interest lads, rather than bothering with all the speaker depths/fittings etc, why not just build some speaker pods to hold your speakers nice n snug. Thats what I am gonna do come summer time !!!
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 22 December 2003, 19:48
or just buy some. you can get some pre built but, i forget who they are made but but they hold 5 1/4 inch and tweeters. home made ones are more satisfying tho!  ;D
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Gozza on 22 December 2003, 19:52
I prefer to keep the stereo looking stockish but sounding the bollox and usually mount the tweeters just in front on the pillars with the speakers on the door in my very well built pods :)
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 22 December 2003, 19:54
yeah i put mine in the factory dash position and the mids in the doors, just put a sub and amp in the boot and amped the lot. sounded nice!

keeped it out of site of light fingered w$%kers as well!  ;)
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Gozza on 22 December 2003, 19:59
Definately, thats why I keep mine in the factory positions. I dont bother with subs no more as its not worth the hastle> all it does is kill ya alternator, make everything rattle n tempt the W kers to nick it. In fact I dont even have a rear shelf so they can see there is no point in breaking in :).

If only stopping the water breaking in was so easy, damn sound proofing is still wet  :(
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 22 December 2003, 20:26
aye! b&q builders sand bags are wicked for fiximg leaky doors tho!
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: Gozza on 22 December 2003, 21:53
Yeah I heard that, recently fixed the passengers side with a heavy duty bin liner. I think it is now coming in thru the rear window rubbers !! I have hopefully sorted with some trusty silcone rubber front halfords, Have taken the sound proofing out and is currently drying in my bathroom. Will have to test it at the weekend :).
Title: Re:MK2 got door pockets want speakers .......DOH
Post by: reserves on 23 December 2003, 10:14
Does anyone know what mounting depth the door speakers can go to?

I'm looking at some JL's that have a mounting depth of 2.81"

I'm off to the states on the 29th and will buy the JL's there, so if anyone can confirm these will fit it would be great!