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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Jon16 on 07 December 2003, 20:49

Title: WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Jon16 on 07 December 2003, 20:49
Hi, my heater seems to work only intermittently. The fan always works but there often seems to be a lack of heat (even VERY COLD!!! on long journeys). As soon as I investigate it seems to work??? Any thoughts? Something up with the control mech maybe? Thanks
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Gozza on 07 December 2003, 20:52

Sounds like your heater matrix may be blocked hence no heat. Open the bonnet and make sure when the heaters are cold that all your water hoses are hot. If they are hot then it sounds like a matrix problem.

Hope this helps  ;D
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Jon16 on 07 December 2003, 21:16
Thanks very much, I'll try that tommorow. Wasn't there a recall on the heater matrix once? I don't think the modifications have been done to mine... Just wondering if this will be relevant if the heater matrix is at fault.
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Gozza on 07 December 2003, 21:18

NOT USRE ALTHOUGH i DO RECAL READING SUMMINK ABOUT A RECALL. nO IDEA WHAT MODEL/YEARS WERE RECALLED THO SOZ.

Damn caps lock, ah well
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: m4nesh on 08 December 2003, 00:11

By-pass valve! ?30 relatively cheap most likely something like this as it is very common
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: richandhazel on 08 December 2003, 13:42
If you haven't had the mod then you ought to have it done and VW should do it for free.

However, that doesn't solve your more immedaite problem in that you don't have the heat.
If its not a matrix blockage, make sure your pipes aren't kinked and try releasing one of the upper jubilee clips a tad to see if air comes out instead of coolant.........you may have an airlock.
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Gambit on 08 December 2003, 13:56
the official recall is now over, but some VAG garages will still do it for nowt.
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: richandhazel on 08 December 2003, 14:00
There was a post a while back, Modulator I think (ex VW), where you can demand the mod as it was a recall for safety reasons.........and those safety reasons should still apply. I'll see if I can find it.........
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: richandhazel on 08 December 2003, 14:18
Found it, sorry it wasn't modulator it was red 16v:-

This is a factory recall to prevent the possibility of boiling hot water being 'spewed' over your feet. It is not optional. I have spoken to Volkswagen on this very topic only a matter of a few weeks ago (as a result of a previous question on this point on this very forum). Volkswagen have maintained a list of cars that have been modified and they perform this modification to any car that requires it regardless of the age or the mileage of the car. It is not a replacement of a faulty part - it is the fitting of a safety bypass device. It is not for your local dealer to say that VW have stopped doing it - they have not. It sounds as though your local dealer is being very lazy and can't be bothered. Go and see them again, ask them to check if the modification has been performed and if not instruct them to carry it out. If they refuse,  take it up with VW HQ in Milton Keynes, their number is in the phonebook. regards, yt.


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Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Jon16 on 09 December 2003, 20:48
Thanks guys... All the hoses were hot except the one at the bottom of the radiator (I'm not mechanic obviously but I presume that's normal) so I guess the heater matrix is blocked??? Any tips on fixing it? How much should it cost to get it done? Any volunteers? (paid obviously!) The car is a 1990 16v, I'm in West London - but will travel to get it fixed if necessary... ::)
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Onge on 12 December 2003, 12:51
Westway in west london are VW specialists (Tel 020 8577 5669) Based in Heston. They will be able to sort it, they usually collect and deliver the car aswel.

I had heater matrix problems in my MK2 16v, firstly it started leaking water, so i turned the heat off which seemed to stop the leak. I left it for a couple of months, then one day on my way to work, while stuck at a set of trafic lights the steam burst out all over the inside of the windscreen and out of the dashboard  - not good. After that i got the matrix bi-passed. It was freezing in winter, and the window kept misting up ever couple of minutes - very annoying. I'd get the matrix replaced if i was to do it again.         Good luck
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Jon16 on 14 December 2003, 09:49
Thanks for the tip Onge. I take it you've had a good experience with these Westway guys... Maybe I should get the safety recall work done first and then get the matrix sorted.
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: rubjonny on 02 January 2004, 15:33
Another thing you might want to look at before going to all that trouble, check the flaps on the heat exchanger and the cables/cogs etc to make sure that a) they are all in one piece as the foam can deteriorate and b) they move properly as sometimes a little cog that moves the flaps can fall off.

Easiest way to realign is to put both knobs to the far right and move the flaps to where they should be then hook them up again.
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Onge on 22 January 2004, 15:59
No probs mate,

Did you get the matrix sorted?
Title: Re:WOT no heat??!!
Post by: Dizzie on 22 January 2004, 16:12
i've got a spare mk2 matrix  ;D
Title: Re: WOT no heat??!!
Post by: eightvalve on 20 October 2005, 13:46
If you ever wondered about the details of the VW recall for the heat exchanger, it can be found here (along with ALL VW RECALLS) on the VOSA website:

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?cboStartMonth=1&cboStartYear=1980&cboEndMonth=1&cboEndYear=2010&cboMake=VW&cboModel=GOLF&cboSortOrder=rec_launch_date&cboAscDesc=ASC&PageSize=10&Search=Search