GolfGTIforum.co.uk

Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: frog on 24 April 2006, 12:23

Title: Headlight Advice
Post by: frog on 24 April 2006, 12:23
My headlights are very poor (as i believe most Mk2's are) and have read a number of topics refering to uprating the wiring loom, but i have measured the voltage at my headlights and i am getting 12.3v (same voltage as battery) so is this mod still worth doing or should i be looking at something else.
Could it just be a need to change bulbs, maybe headlight reflectors shot so need new headlights?
Any advice / suggestions
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: Organisys on 24 April 2006, 12:44
Did you measure the voltage with the lights on?
You won't see a voltage drop until there is a load on the circuit.
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: frog on 24 April 2006, 13:14
Surley i wouldn't be able to test the voltage without the lights being on
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: 8vRicey on 24 April 2006, 13:28
You could have been testing the voltage without the actual lamp plugged in. IE switched on but not connected.
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: Organisys on 24 April 2006, 13:29
You could if you tested it with one or more of the plugs pulled off the rear of the bulbs.
if you tested it with the bulbs lit on main beam, and you still got 12v then your loom is ok.
Try some uprated or blue/white bulbs.
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: JMallows on 24 April 2006, 18:59
Could also try and clean the lamp glass?
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: Ali-Mk2 on 25 April 2006, 01:10
Put simply a fatter or better quality wire will allow more electrons down it. That is more amps, simple as that. When a lot of power is asked for, as headlights do, the wide wire will allow them to flow through maintaining full pressure (voltage), rather than causing a bit of "congestion" (resistance) meaning the amps you want don't get through at the desired voltage.

For reference:
Volts X Amps = Watts.
Amps = Quantity of electricity
Volts = Pressure of that electricity
Watts = Total amount of "work" it will do per second.

A Watt is one amp at one volt, consumed over 1 second. Or... Enough "power" to lift a 100 grams of weight 1 metre high in 1 second.

Oh and a Joule is a watt without the time constraints.  :nerd:

Ali




 
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: Haribo! on 25 April 2006, 03:26
Put simply a fatter or better quality wire will allow more electrons down it. That is more amps, simple as that. When a lot of power is asked for, as headlights do, the wide wire will allow them to flow through maintaining full pressure (voltage), rather than causing a bit of "congestion" (resistance) meaning the amps you want don't get through at the desired voltage.

For reference:
Volts X Amps = Watts.
Amps = Quantity of electricity
Volts = Pressure of that electricity
Watts = Total amount of "work" it will do per second.

A Watt is one amp at one volt, consumed over 1 second. Or... Enough "power" to lift a 100 grams of weight 1 metre high in 1 second.

Oh and a Joule is a watt without the time constraints.  :nerd:

Ali

(http://gate.in.ua/engine/data/emoticons/confused.gif)
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: spawnGti on 25 April 2006, 08:47
Someone paid attention to their physics lessons!  :cool:
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: Lee Watson on 25 April 2006, 09:07
I got one of these up rated wiring looms has made a Difference but still not as good as my partners MK3.
It's just something to put up with....

You can find the wiring looms on Ebay..
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: kkh120 on 25 April 2006, 11:40
Put simply a fatter or better quality wire will allow more electrons down it. That is more amps, simple as that. When a lot of power is asked for, as headlights do, the wide wire will allow them to flow through maintaining full pressure (voltage), rather than causing a bit of "congestion" (resistance) meaning the amps you want don't get through at the desired voltage.

For reference:
Volts X Amps = Watts.
Amps = Quantity of electricity
Volts = Pressure of that electricity
Watts = Total amount of "work" it will do per second.

A Watt is one amp at one volt, consumed over 1 second. Or... Enough "power" to lift a 100 grams of weight 1 metre high in 1 second.

Oh and a Joule is a watt without the time constraints. :nerd:

Ali
 

Love it :grin:

I'm going to save this for when my kid asks me about this one day :laugh:
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: rubjonny on 25 April 2006, 13:35
The other thing to remember, is that all the power for the headlamps has to first pass through the light switch, and then the fusebox before finally getting to the lamps.  This is a long length of cable, though perfectly fine when brand new now the wires have aged the power output isn't what it once was.

The headlights themselves make a big difference too, a pair of nice shiny new lenses will work much better than a pair of old yellow ones with peeling reflector housings ;)
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: frog on 25 April 2006, 14:18
basically what everyone is saying is carry out the upgrade anyway due to the age of the car/wiring.
Have checked the bulbs and they look nearly new 55/60w halogens. Maybe its just the alignment thats out how easy is it to adjust?
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: rubjonny on 25 April 2006, 14:31
yup basically :)
easy to adjust, theres a scew at the bottom of the lamp which does up/down and one on the side which does left/right.  Haynes has a quick n dirty guide on how to adjust them properly.
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: Devon Joe on 25 April 2006, 20:43
Yep i did the wiring upgrade, made a heck of a difference to mine, and thats on standard bulbs!
Also keep the grill spotlights too- my high beam is now blinding.. :rolleyes: :grin:
Wiring upgrade is easy to fit, just unplug stuff and then plug it in so its easy to convert back if you flog it etc!
Title: Re: Headlight Advice
Post by: frog on 26 April 2006, 16:48
Carried out this mod from scratch today.
Bought a 30 Amp relay and Blade fuse holder from local Automotive supplier(£5.49), got the cable and crimps from work and the diagram from http://www.matey-matey.com/uprated_headlight_wiring.shtml.
Took about an hour to do including making up the loom.
Alot cheaper than buying loom off Ebay
Everything seems to work just need to try the lights at night to see what the difference is but any body with any knowledge could carry out this Mod