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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: VeeDubGTI16v on 21 April 2006, 10:27

Title: widetrack
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 21 April 2006, 10:27
im planning to do the passat widetrack thing soon, does anyone know why you have to use spacers behind the stub axles at the back? does the passat rear beam not fit?? :huh:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: russ_turner on 21 April 2006, 19:00
what's this passat wide track thing then?? sounds interesting!
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 21 April 2006, 19:12
I am not sure, i have only heard of people doing the wide track to the front. Like i am planning on doing...  :huh: :huh:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: rubjonny on 21 April 2006, 20:12
you can get spacers for the wheels, or get plates made up for the stub axles along with longer bolts.  Either work with little effort, though if you use large spacers it puts more strain on the wheel bearings apparently.
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 22 April 2006, 10:16
does the passat have a rear beam like the golf? id rather put the whole beam on if possible, might need a trip to the scrappy with a tape measure :nerd:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: ...joe on 22 April 2006, 10:23
i't be nice if the passat was a direct fit, but i don't know!! f**kin helpfull eh?!
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 22 April 2006, 10:26
it proably doesnt as everyone seems to use the spacers behind the stub axles :undecided: its worth checking though
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: jimbo on 22 April 2006, 12:59
If you put spacers behind your stub axles you can use angled ones. This gives your car more or less camber which ever you want  :wink:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: barkstar on 22 April 2006, 13:17
The Passat rear beam is different, so a no go. But some Mk3 rear beams are wider - oddly the drum braked version is the widest apparently (there's a lot of info on beams on another forum :wink:) and should bolt straight in (you might need the mounting plates if it has the later bushes) - do a bit of measuring up in a scrappy. I'd look at that before using spacers (urgh) or moving the stub axle - if you go that route make sure you get bolts marked 10.9 on the head they are very high tensile strength and moving the stub axle out will put a lot more strain on them. Another alternative would be a VR6 Corrado rear axle - if you can find one - the six pot 'rado is wide track so I guess the axle will be wider.
The front track is about 20mm wider each side so there will be clearance issues to look at (G60 arches and rolled arches) and setting the camber might need the special bolts from VW to get it less than very negative. Those that have done it reckon the car feels a bit more stable.
Should keep you out of mischief for several weekends :grin:
Barkstar :nerd:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 22 April 2006, 14:42
it pushes the front out 16mm each side :nerd:

which 'other forum'  :grin:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: Organisys on 22 April 2006, 14:50
^^^ cgti Me finks !
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: barkstar on 22 April 2006, 15:50
Couldn't possibly comment without my lawyers present :lipsrsealed:
barkstar  :nerd:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: Organisys on 24 April 2006, 12:39
Yeah, you notice i didn't actually hyperlink it !
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 24 April 2006, 15:40
the general answer on cgti is 'use spacers behind stub axles' :undecided:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 24 April 2006, 16:09
you will also find the general answer to be if it's not a gti then get out.
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: monzablue16v on 24 April 2006, 16:28
Meow slick :grin: harsh but fair and true :laugh:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: barkstar on 24 April 2006, 22:45
I still reckon one of the Mk3 beams could do the trick and it's got to be a better way of doing things. All the beams are similar except the plates the stub axle bolt's into - which are closer or further from the tube depending on which model and later beams uses a different bush arrangement which is why you might need the plates that bolt into the chassis for them. If you have a local VW scrappy it shouldn't take long to figure out which beam will do the trick. If you do go that route make sure you get a beam with a built in anti-roll bar.
Barkstar  :nerd:
Title: Re: widetrack
Post by: Organisys on 25 April 2006, 13:28
^^^^ yeah get one with a rear ARB, and when you are feeling rich, get a rear ARB to suit the donor car, and a front one to suit the passat, then you can tune the handling balance.
H&R or Neuspeed make them
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