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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: TanK_VW on 21 March 2006, 13:53
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if the 1.6 engine is standard what can I do to get more power out of it?
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stainless exhaust, weber carb and a 8v gti cam will give you a bit more driveability and horsies more than that is big dollar. using ebay and scrappies you could prob do that for under 500 bar. the weber will be the biggest outlay.
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Usuals are K&N filter panel, GTI camshaft, GTI exhaust, sort out the carb (replace with webber if your that way inclined). I've done the first and the car feels more responsive. Can't tell you about any power increase tho, never RR'ed. If anyone has any idea what sort of increase if any I'm looking at thatd be nice  :smiley:
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i got a driver with the following mods.
8v gti cam...Straight bolt in...cheap to buy...always a few for sale check ebay
32/34 weber carb...Straight bolt on...i bought a brand new one...pretty expensive but worth it!
Straight through to twin exit peco back box.
the verdict?
feels like the 8v driver is know a 16v driver, feels more rev happy and pulls through the gears with ease and great midrange and pickup. Defiently worth investing in them mods. going to get a 8v gti manifold and downpipe next.
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yeah that sounds good i would do that, nice and cheap, 8v manifolds are good 2 they work pretty good..
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also if you got that cash know how and time get a 1.8 bottom end. its a bit involved and includes swapping crankshafts etc
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Cheers, how much of this can i do myself. Bareing in mind i have not done much mechanical work, and dont have the moment to go pay a garage to do it.
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dont bother with the bottom end then, but the rest is in the haynes manula and if you take your time, get a mate to help and get all your tools ready you could do this in a weekend easy peasy, cam and carb one day exhaust the next.
change the cam belt while your at it cos its silly fitting the old one again when you have to take it off anyway! change the tensioner aswell.....
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is this the sort of thing i am looking for?
(http://i10.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/8d/88/02_1_b.JPG)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Volkswagen-VW-Golf-GTI-8v-Cam-Shaft_W0QQitemZ4621925517QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
God i love this forum so much easier finding out what and how to do things that searching the internet.
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yes thats exactly it dont pay more than a tenner tho
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COOL I JUST READ ALL THE ADVICE YOU LOT GAVE AND I AM GONNA DO EXACTLY THE SAME TO MY 1.6
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DO YOU HAVE TO SHOUT LOL
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you could buy the spare 8v digi engine I have also and jump straight up to 112bhp :D
it's cheap :D
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I am trying to talk my brother into letting me take his VR6 engine out of his MK3, but he is not happy with the swap :angry: dont know why, surely he realised how great it would be to have the roar of the VR6 in the MK2. He must just be jealous he sold his Mk2 Gti for the MK3... FOOL!! :grin:
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Do exactly what every1 has been telling you... GTI Cam, Full GTI exhaust (including manifold and downpipe), Weber Carb is easier to work on (has less moving parts) but im not convinced its any better than the 2E2 Pierburg... When the 2E2 is running good the car is perfect!, i wouldnt put a K&N filter on cause it will cause Carb freeze, also fit a GTI head.
Cheap fun in a 1.6... should be not far off a 8v GTI! :cool:
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sorry :cry:
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A replacement K&N filter panel (as in direct replacement) shouldn't cause carb freezing. Mine doesn't :smiley: . Don't get an induction kit or anything like that.
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yeah Si`s spot on about the weber, if the the pierburg is FULLY working then its a great carb, webers in my experience are just a pain in the arse, im soon to fit a GTI head to my 1600 so ill let you know how much difference it makes, should be good as so im told by rubjonny it not only has the GTI cam in it(obviously) it had bigger valves too so if you can get a decent GTI head then your well on your way, but to get it working well you need to really drill a hole in the head for the coolant channel from the manifold as its missing. simple enuf tho apparently,....ill let you know about that too.......... :undecided:
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weber are a pain in the arse?? we arent talking lairy twin weber 45's here....
pierburgs are great if they work thing is i never had one that worked.......
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Should have come an seen me, mine worked brilliant after a bit of hard work :cool:
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yeah i put loads of work into mine and it worked fine for the summer and was sh!te in the winter then sorted that then it was a bag of nails in the summer then i got enough money and got a gti and now its a bag of nails all round lol (not really but i dont miss having to fiddle on a cold morning with my flaps......
oh err.....
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how much is a weber?
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Look on Egay. Prob pick one up for £50 i wouldv thought.? :undecided:
While your on there, see how much you can get twin 40's for.... you might be suprised! :nerd:
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what difference does the twin port one do?
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what difference does the twin port one do?
Twin Port Carb??? :huh:
You mean Twin Choke?
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Can you tell i dont know what i am about when it comes to the engine lol.
Ok you tell me, whats the one u suggested?
and also what the difference between a twin port carb?
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The Pierburg 2E2 Carb fitted to a standard 1.6 and 1.8 Driver is a twin progressive Choke.
Easiest way to describe how this works is you have 3 jets (i think).... :undecided:
also it has 2 Venturis... (flaps) 1st is open when driving normally to allow limited fuel / air mixture.
2nd flap opens (2nd Choke) when you accelerate harder to allow loads more fuel / air in to engine.
The Pierburg has more moving parts and several Jets (which block up)
Whereas the Weber only has 1 single jet i think so less moving parts.
Id seriously recomend sticking with the 2E2. When its setup and running correctly it is better than the Weber in my views.
To get real performance from a Carb Car your better off fitting Twin 40 Webers. These are two carbs mounted side by side to each other, but expect seriously poor MPG and they need to set up spot on or its bye bye pistons! :cry:
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Id seriously recomend sticking with the 2E2. When its setup and running correctly it is better than the Weber in my views.
how do you get it running smooth then?
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2E2 Pierburg Repair thread - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=33259.0
Yes, got it in before Rubjonny :grin:
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Jesus that man knows everything!
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so true :cool:
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i thought i would post in here because i have a 1.6 driver and ive put a 1.8 GTi cam and a weber carb init the weber also has a K&N bolt on filter and to be honest ive had no carb iceing or any probs.
Dude i suggest you do the same if you want more power because it does make a BIG difference, you gotta get the carb set up properly though or it causes sh*t loads of probs. i picked my weber up brand new from GSF for £210 i dont think i would trust buying a second hand one. when i got my car i had the pierburg and that was shocking it used to rev to 4k when it was cold because of the auto choke and by the time it had warmed up you would of ran out of petrol.
do these small mods mate and you wont regret it. :cool:
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how do you fit mk2 gti cam to the driver after reading this i may opt for that to ? and how much big job ??? lol
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its a strait swap, youll need to set the timing up different tho i think
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Or................................
Buy a GTi :grin: :laugh:
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But do you want an 8v or 16v..... :wink:
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gotta be 8v cos of the significantly greater low down torque..........
mr veedub gets his wooden spoon out.......