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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: rowlers on 14 March 2006, 21:23
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How many extra horses can I get for £500???
What BHP can a std. valver take without getting fancy new pistons etc... and without blowing it up!
I fancy an engine rebuild in the near future and might buy a 16v engine to leave with someone to do the work then have it fitted into my valver. (having said that - where in cumbria can I get this type of work done any one know???) I'm not prepared (and don't have!) to pay the £2k THAT tsr want for a new engine!
What sort of work should I be getting done - port and polish 2.0ltr bottom end etc....
what should I expect to pay to get a 160bhp ish output?
cheers
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Best bang per buck would be a 2.0 16v bottom end, either an ABF from a MK3 Golf or SEAT, or an Audi (9a?).
Can easily get one for less than £500 if you shop around. The MK3 ABF can get 170bhp with only an engine chip & remap (VW limited the MK3 16v from the factory to stop people buying em over the VR6) So the MK2 16v should get at least that with a polished head :)
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Rowlers, ask the guys at Autovolks in Carlisle, they may have some good contacts.
There is a place in Lancaster, just as you leave the motorway at J34 who is very very good by reputation (although he's also very slow: you have to tell him you need the engine back in two weeks for an event or similar or it'll sit for months!). He's done several race engines for a colleague of mine but I can't remember his name off-hand. Prices are pretty good too from what I was told.
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I contacted autovolks a few weeks ago, would only reccommend a genuine VW replacement engine and don't do rebuilds! did reccommend someone in Lancaster but didn't know the name!
I'm going to take it there sometime soon though, for full tune up.
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The 9a engine is the same height as the 16v kjet so is preferable over the abf which is a tall block so needs a fair bit of fannying to make it fit apparently.
see my post in the mk2 section for some ideas.
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Lancaster engines possibly? They have the best rep in the country for rebuild work. Don't think they fit stuff though
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what do you mean they don't fit stuff??
I'll see what I can find out!
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what do you mean they don't fit stuff??
I'll see what I can find out!
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hmmm they rebuild engines etc for motor factors
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They have a good reputation also I have heard good things about them, more for the enthusiast who likes to get greasy and spread an engine around they're garage on a weekend you send the parts they repair and machine them then send it all back. It's the way I will go with mine I think the best way to learn how it works is to take it to bits and then try to put it back together! :laugh:
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for £500 id cheet and get some gas. couple of mates run wizzards of nitrous kits, ones on a 106 rallye, thats had 25hp on it for ages no prob and another has 75hp in a 205 mi16, been running it for over 2 years again with no problems. iv spoken to won about a kit for my car, guy that i spoke to had a 16v with 50hp in it i think.
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Hi guys,
Am new to this forum, I recently sold a mk2 campaign 16v, which I had converted to 2L for the princly sum of about 200quid, I found a low milage mk3 16v engine with full vw history on ebay, was the much better ABF tall block found in the Seat Ibiza, cordoba and mk3 golf. I ditched all the crap i didnt need (box, inlet manifold, electrics) kept the alternator, water pump with the later belt pullys. I kept the origional 020 box put a new sachs clutch in.
I used the origional KR inlet, injection system, (exhaust manifold from the ABF) origional downpipe (no clearance issues)
sold all the bits i didnt use which paid for the engine.
drove the car down to Vince at stealth and he did the WUR mod, and adjusted the fuel pressuer.
Came out with 174.2bhp and 145.1lbs/ft
the conversion is so easy, the mk2 should have come out the factory with 2L!!!!!
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agreed- blag an engine crane and a set of splined sockets and its a simple job!
best thing i ever did to my engine is make it bigger :smiley:
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doesn't sound simple to me :embarassed:
terrified in case I cock it up, and then can't get to work!!!
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:rolleyes:when i mean 'simple'....i kinda meant that its not as if you have to fabricate new parts or relocate engine mounts etc. Really its just a case of planning the swap, giving yourself at least a weekend to take your old engine out and another to put it in and use the week in between to get the bits you need or broke!
The only probs i had were:
-Exhaust manifold nuts(no surprises there..) Mine were sort of a 12mm hex but half were already rounded off! After hours of cursing i decided to drop the subframe instead and yank the engine out with the front box still attached. This worked and is handy if you cant (or cant be arsed) to take the manifold/downpipe off.
-Timing the cam chain if you swap the KR cams into a complete 6a,9a,ABF etc engine. (as you torque the bearing caps down everything moves slightly. There are obvious timing marks to line it all up but it still took me 3 attempts!)
-These became insignifigant problems when i majorly forked up- i put an 8v box on and didnt realise the splines on the friction plate were different and when i fired it up...crunch! This involved taking the engine and box back out, swearing a lot and buying a brand new friction plate :angry: Wouldnt want anyone to repeat that one!!
Seriously though, its complicated as far as 'righto lets take the engine out of the car' sounds. There is a lot of unbolting to do but the beauty with a 2.0 8v or 16v swap is that the engines blocks are fundamentally the same so everything bolts back on. Would suggest a new set of engine mounts including an uprated or solid front one. You should get this all for £500 if you find a cheap engine (whole cars such as Audi 80s are often cheaper than a scrapyard engine) and still have change for some pagid fast road front pads and a £120 s/s manifold from feBay! :smiley:
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add another 200 quid and you could just buy this from me!
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can ya tell what it is yet?
prettier than a golf. faster than most models not sure about the big ones though. this is a 2.5 V6 and it weighs nothing. its one of the fastest cars ive ever had. dropped 60mm. remus full system...
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Alfa?