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General => General discussion => Topic started by: sellers on 13 March 2006, 19:17
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iv been looking at insurance quotes and basically, im stuck between getting a mk2 8v and a mk3 16v. I know the mk2 is more of a drivers car, and im young which is probably what i'd more want to do, but the mk3 is a bit more luxury? i think their both about the same on performance, im after something pretty reliable and quick
can anyone else help?
what sort of mpg are you looking in each?? and how reliable are the 2ltr 16v engines?? cheers
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for a daily ill get the mk3. 150bhp too i think
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I'd say mk3 as well, but I haven't driven a mk2 so just guessing there's a sufficient difference. Certainly plenty of pull throughout the rev range in the mk3, just loads above 4k!
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I'd go for the mk3. Easily hike the power up with simple mods and it'll be loads quicker than the 8v. The 16v will wipe the floor with it :)
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MK3 everytime !
8v - solid, proven, reliable engine. Not that slow !
16v - quicker, not as reliable as 8v, costly to fix
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Why are you choosing between the Mk2 8v and the Mk3 16v ? They'll be very different values and cost different amounts to insure.
My old Mk3 16v was loads of trouble, in 9months it cost me over a grand in repairs, new dizzy, new cat. converter, electric faults, kept stalling, and would have needed a new clutch, if I'd kept it.
That said it was 150bhp of fun, and more luxorious.
But the Mk2 16v I had after that was much more fun to drive, no electrical problems, very quick, needed a new clutch, but after 155k, that's not bad.
So, if you want luxury and fun, I'd go for a late Mk2 16v.
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A mk3 huh, you into sailing then? :wink: :lipsrsealed:
I had the same dilema when i got my 8v mk2, tried a mk3 tdi an 16v and then went for the mk2, i rekoned just slightly more fun. + the cult factor. :smiley:
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MK3 everytime !
8v - solid, proven, reliable engine. Not that slow !
16v - quicker, not as reliable as 8v, costly to fix
Why would the 16v be less reliable?
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i would say compramise the two choices and get a mark 2........16valve!!!
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I'd say in the long run the mk3 would be less trouble as it's new and would have less miles and abuse.
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Id have a mk2 16v loved mine to bits :smiley: although good ones cost a lot of money :angry: possibly pick a mk3 up for less????
Just buy the best one your budget allows
Edition 38 always has loads for sale this one looks lovely
Red mk2 16v (http://www.edition38.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=34773&start=0)
Although id buy this if i had the spare money or someone bought my rado. (http://www.edition38.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=34665)
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the mk2 16v aint an option
im 19 with 1 accident and 1 sp30
so the mk2 16v is 1900
but 8v mk2, and 16v mk3 are 1250
i quite like the fact that the mk3 has ABS and all the trimmings, wouldnt mind a colour concept one or anniversary.
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Go for the mk3 16v, its a very under rated motor :smiley:
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ive owned all, and i would keep my mk3 16v anytime ,dont get me wrong the mk216v
are exellent but try finding a good one,i payed £1370 for my mk3 16v p reg with electric sunroof and aircon i had it resprayed because crap colour and a few stonechips , i woudnt swap it for any thing exept a mk3vr6 ,if i could afford i would own a mk2 16v for summer shows, but for every day use my mk3 16v,
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/carljames/PICT0419.jpg)
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i woudnt swap it for any thing exept a mk3vr6
:laugh: :laugh:
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there are too many barge lovers around here! lol :rolleyes: :tongue: :smiley:
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MK3 everytime !
8v - Not that slow !
:huh:
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this is my fave mk3 :grin:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/Toofunkyhouse/DDM-barge.jpg)
and yes i am quit an 'artist'!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :tongue:
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I paid more for my mk2 8v golf than i did for my mk2 16v with 2lt in it and for my L reg 16v corrado.
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I am so shocked. i cant believe how many people said the mk3. This is going to cause some trouble but i dont even think the mk3 should be called a golf.
mK2 ALL THE WAY, whether 8v or 16v or then a mk1. :evil:
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No way mate, mk1 and mk2's don't come close to a vr6 :laugh:
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i would say compramise the two choices and get a mark 2........16valve!!!
I agree matey a mk2 16v is the best all round golf, it's got the power, chuckability (technical term that), looks cool as is lighter and in general you can't compare a mk2 8v to a mk3 16v as they are different cars entirley.
Also that qoute is whack, :laugh:
I insured mine with 6 points at 24
The difference with Adrian Flux and Volksworld insurance between a mk2 8 valve and mk2 16 valve was £30 seriously I thought a 16v was out of the question.
Try getting tpf+t as unless you have an agreed valuation fully comp is imho a luxury not needed on old cars.
up to you try and test drive the ones you want and decide which suits you best Dubs are individual ;) that's why us lot argue so much :laugh:
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No way mate, mk1 and mk2's don't come close to a vr6 :laugh:
Nonsense id have my mk1 over a vr6 anyday :evil:
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nonsense! mk3's rule!! :grin:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/Toofunkyhouse/DDM-barge.jpg)
sorry, i just cant get enough of my pic! lol :laugh: :rolleyes: :tongue:
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i suppose i should stop stirring! no one is biting! lol :tongue:
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mk1's are rubbish, mk2's are the best naaa naa :tongue:
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Mk1's and mk2's have no horsepower, they are all powered by batteries :laugh:
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Mk1's and mk2's have no horsepower, they are all powered by batteries :laugh:
At least mk1s dont have a rudder and propeller :evil:
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Yeah a pretty powerful propeller :grin:
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a pretty good propellor with a sh!te rudder :laugh:
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A powerful propellor that in a proper golf makes them missiles!! :laugh:
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At least mk3's have brakes unlike mk1's :laugh:
mk1's = death trap :grin:
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That's true mk3's do have brakes think they're called anchors wind the window down and throw it out. :laugh:
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YES!!! its all kicking off! lol :grin:
i have holes in the floor like fred flinstone on my mk1!! yaba daba doooooooo! :laugh:
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This is a rare picture of a non vr6 mk3 in original guise before they re skinned it so you can't see it. :laugh:
(http://www.britishbattles.com/images/quebec/landing-barge-l.jpg)
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That's true mk3's do have brakes think they're called anchors wind the window down and throw it out. :laugh:
What do ya call brakes on a mk1? push your foot to the floor (and i mean to the floor), close your eyes and start f**king praying :grin: :laugh:
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Nah you don't need hoooge brakes on a mk1 because they don't weigh 14 tonnes kerb weight you just touch them and it slows down!! :) plus a VR has a big lump of pig iron up front as well!! Mk3's are useful though for some things, like brakes and engines :laugh:
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If you own a mk1 or mk2 rhd golf you might as well walk unless you have one of these  :laugh:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/samsmith2000/stuff/mk216v.jpg)
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Nah you don't need hoooge brakes on a mk1 because they don't weigh 14 tonnes kerb weight you just touch them and it slows down!! :) plus a VR has a big lump of pig iron up front as well!! Mk3's are useful though for some things, like brakes and engines :laugh:
Er no way, with that sh!t cross linkage on a mk1 you might as well use the handbrake :laugh: :laugh:
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If you own a mk1 or mk2 rhd golf you might as well walk unless you have one of these :laugh:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/samsmith2000/stuff/mk216v.jpg)
I'll stick around then shall I :laugh: And what's with the lack of bonnet and floating ratchet of death???? :)
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sorry monza, but yev asked for the old "Wooden sh!t-box" pic...... :grin: :grin: :grin:
pmsl, Mk2's tut tut...... :laugh:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a332/hardcor3_/Woodencar.jpg)
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sorry monza, but yev asked for the old "Wooden sh!t-box" pic...... :grin: :grin: :grin:
pmsl, Mk2's tut tut...... :laugh:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a332/hardcor3_/Woodencar.jpg)
sh!tbox sh!tbox :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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brum brum......
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a332/hardcor3_/carpics182.jpg)
or is that ROAR ROAR........ :wink:
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ah well least it's individual :laugh: it's a good way to pass the last hour at work anyway! only a mk3 would need such a heavy and powerefulish engine to lug it's fat ass around!!!
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There isn't a rhd mk2 that does 0-60 in less than 8 seconds, oh dear that is SLOW :laugh:
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62bhp per litre, what a lazy engine :grin:
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Some would say smooth and powerful :kiss:
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whats the 0 - 60 time of a mk3 16v??
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About 3 weeks i think! Lol
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I'd go for the mk2 myself, but have you thought about a mk2 16v? That's what I've got now, tho I did have a mk2 with a mk3 16v engine in - fast as hell and loads of fun!! 0 - 60 in about 6.5 seconds, topped out around 150mph. Personally I'd say look for a mk2 16v, they look way cooler than the mk3's, and they're still pretty damn quick. Cheaper to insure than a mk3 too
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Having driven mk2 and mk3 16v i don't think there is that much difference in perfomance, and no i'm not joking :smiley:
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If you own a mk1 or mk2 rhd golf you might as well walk unless you have one of these :laugh:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/samsmith2000/stuff/mk216v.jpg)
Well my mk1 has one of these
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Danr1001/MK1G60Engine.jpg)
:grin: :evil: :grin: :evil: :grin: :evil:
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so we are all in agreement mk3 16v are best then :grin: :grin:
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/carljames/PICT0427.jpg)
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I hate these mk2 v mk3 arguments, coz everyone bar mk3 drivers knows that the essence of the Golf GTI stopped at the Mk2 and has only just started again with the mk5. They had to put the VR6 into the Mk3 to try and make it as good a car as the Mk2, but even that didn't work. :tongue:
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nice mk2 mate
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/carljames/PICT0419.jpg)
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I hate these mk2 v mk3 arguments, coz everyone bar mk3 drivers knows that the essence of the Golf GTI stopped at the Mk2 and has only just started again with the mk5. They had to put the VR6 into the Mk3 to try and make it as good a car as the Mk2, but even that didn't work. :tongue:
What a complete bollox statement :laugh:
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This is ace- I knew me saying that would make things kick off, and they have!
6 pages of it.
mk2, mk2, mk2, mk2, mk2, mk2
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There isn't a rhd mk2 that does 0-60 in less than 8 seconds, oh dear that is SLOW :laugh:
i will give ya that one but you will go straight through the hedge at the end of the straight because you wont get round the corner! :grin:
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right i started all this! lol but its now gone far enough, tbh i like all golf's, and i think all the different models have there pro's and cons: mk1 raw and fun, mk2 less raw but still fun, mk3 bit more grown up, mk4 .... errr..... modern, mk5 top quality and fun to boot! :smiley:
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There isn't a rhd mk2 that does 0-60 in less than 8 seconds, oh dear that is SLOW :laugh:
i will give ya that one but you will go straight through the hedge at the end of the straight because you wont get round the corner! :grin:
mines alright, its been lowered :laugh:
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^^^^^^ fair one, but you have to admit that the mk3 8v gti was NOT a real GTI! its a fact, VW f**ked up with it, they got slated at the time and thats why the VR was born to add some performance! :smiley:
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^^^^^^ fair one, but you have to admit that the mk3 8v gti was NOT a real GTI! its a fact, VW f**ked up with it, they got slated at the time and thats why the VR was born to add some performance! :smiley:
Yeah that is correct. But the vr was actually born when the first mk3's came out late 1992, so it wasn't like vw made cos the 8v was sh!t! :laugh:
But you are right, the 8v was really a GL, the 16v which came 1994 was quick, and the vr6 is f**king rapid :laugh:
Its the same with mk4's, the 8v wasn't really a gti either, but the 1.8T and 1.9pd 130 and 150tdi are rapid. Infact the diesel lumps are definately the quickest of the lot, excluding the vr6 24v :cool:
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Just to throw another log on the fire...
If your gonna get a vr6 its gotta be a corrado. The VR in the mk3 may be a sh!t hot engine, but, its still in a mk3 golf!
When i think vr6, it think corrado, and then think, oh yeah the mk3 did a lesser version too didn't they!
Let the fight begin... again!... :evil:
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I've driven both, and believe me the main difference is chassis.
Lower the golf, and you get very similar performance for half the price :grin:
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oh and yev got to remember that rado's look sh!te, look's a bit like a wardrobe..... :grin: :wink:
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I couldn't get the f**k*r :grin: i had to like fall out of it cos they are so low :evil:
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Depends what you want.
Mk2 Handling
Mk3 Comfort
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HARDCOR3... i cant believe you just said that about corrados- even if it was a joke! :angry:
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rado's look mint! a few little mods and you have a sweet looking ride! :smiley: