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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: T_J_G on 03 March 2006, 22:01
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Howdy there.
I'm recently turned 18 y/o Student from Kent. And i want a VW.
I currently drive a Red Peugeot 106 R Reg, but looking to sell it and pay off finance and get a VW.
So I have the Golf 1.8 MkII driver in mind, good idea? there's a few cleans one for sale round here for under 5-hundred quid. This would result in no change (1500 quid..) in insurance until May (when i get NCB and it should drop) to around 700.
OR
Buy a Golf 8v Gti for May and insure it for 1300 quid in May.
Having cheaper insurance would be good.I'm not rich ÂÂÂ
What's the difference in Top speed and 0-60mph between the two?
If i choose the Driver I can buy one as soon as next week.
Please help me decide,
Thanks
Tim
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Hold off until May and buy the GTI. Or better still, spend between now and May finding the beat GTI you can. There is not much point in buying a half way house car that you will probably end up dropping money on. Keep your pug until you can get cheaper insurance. If you buy the Driver you will not be satisfied as you will still be hankering after the GTI.
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Deffo wait for the gti!
I'm in a similar situation: i'm 19 in april (not long now!!!) and am going to be looking at about 800 quid tpf&t on an 8v gti, which isn't half bad! You're only going to be waiting 2 months, i've been waiting a year for this to happen, and looking back it's gone pretty quick!
I bought the car in January after keeping an eye out for a bit, and like the hoax said, start looking now for the best you can get as then you definitely won't be dissapointed.
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yeah if i was thinking strait i would have got a gti instead of my driver as i can afford to, but then again its quite nice paying 45 pounds a month for the driver, not a bad 0-60, i do it in 9 secs and thats a 1600, the advantages of a driver is that so im told, they are easyer to keep running well?? mostly cause most problems youll get with the running are useually simple carb problems, also you find more drivers in good nick then gti`s apparently, but if you can find a good gti then definatly mate, i know i will be next year if i can find a decent one
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id get the GTi and i think your guess of your insurance cost halving after getting one years no claims bonus is a dream. not gonna happen. you may save 200 at tops and even then id doubt that. if yor insurance compnay are telling you that then they ripped you off for 1500 quid in the first year
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i think your guess of your insurance cost halving after getting one years no claims bonus is a dream
Seems to be normal to be honest. All of my mates insurance more or less halved after the 1st years no claims, myself included. However, people i know getting there second years no claims get around a hundred quid off like you say, maybe a bit more if they are lucky.
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yeah mine did too, my first year of isurance was a 50% off as i had pass plus which only lasts one year and my second year cost about the same with no pass plus and one NCB, i suppose it depends who your with,
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My insurance will drop to 800 on the Pug. The insurance told me this. The 1500 first year was cheapest quote I could find.
Thanks for your advice/thoughts.
May start looking for a GTi.
:wink:
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Sensible option :cry:: Buy clean Driver, keep it for 15 months (youll hopefully 2 years NCB), and try not to spend much on it. Save up
then get a mint GTI later. Makes more sense for the purse strings Im afraid, but then youll end up with a great GTI in super nick.
More Fun option: Bite the bullet, find the best possible GTI you can for your budget, and learn everything you can about them so if work needs doing you can get it done for less $$$. Become obsessed, spend every penny you have on it, and dont forget to use Optimax!!! Then start planning your mods/improvements.
GTI if you can! :grin:
Performance figures... i think from Haynes Max Power Golf manual
1.8 Driver: 0-60 = 10.1 secs, Top speed = 108 mph
1.8 GTI 8v (pre '88): 0-60 = 8.5 secs, Top speed = 118 mph
1.8 GTI 8v (post '88): 0-60 = 9.2 secs (umm not sure), Top speed = 118 mph
And Id hate to sound nosey, but youre almost 18 still a student, I guess if your starting work come autum you may be in a better position to run and maintaine the GTI, however if uni is your route it may change things (need of car, location, etc).
I ran a mk3 1.4 SE (fat and slow, but it served me well) for my first year to get 1years NCB and 1years experience, then moved onto GTI, but being 23/24, oh and married makes insurance cheaper.
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/findyourown/N6EAP%20Olympus%20OM/N6EAP_1.jpg)
My first Golf. 1996 mk3 1.4 SE... NOW SOLD
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/findyourown/J873VAW%20Olympus%20OM/J873VAW_1.jpg)
1991 8v GTI, Atlas Grey, 5-door
Nick
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I was 18 last month, got a year and half left of college (living at home) then I may go Uni after that but again will be at home.
Foxhole : your GTI is absolutely gorgeous.
Would another option be by a Driver (therefore cheap insurance and so on) then modify it to the spec of a GTI?
I mean air filter, full system exhaust will give it tiny more power, what kind of things could i do on not much money to make it go? New carb? .... also I plan on stripping the inside to get rid of some weight.
There is only 1.5 secs in it...
I live on about 600 a month (part time work and generous relatives :wink:) and have other expensive hobbies..I'm a guitarist,that seems to eat my money.
Thanks,
Tim
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theres only so much you can do with a driver wthout spending loads, altho all ive one with mine is the exhaust and a refubed carb(not a weber) and mine does 0-60 in 9 secs, may not be far off a standard gti8v but then you can get alot more out of a gti when theyre done up properly,a drivers a perfectly respectable car tho mate, good thing is is you do up the exteriour of a driver , when you get a gti you just need to swap over all the good parts then your sorted and you can sell the driver on :cool:
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There are quite a few Drivers around that have been very well looked after - its a Mums car after all. Get a 1.8 and drop in a GTi cam, Weber carb and GTi exhaust and it's as quick as a GTi. Biggest problem with a cheap GTi is find one thats worth having, most are shagged and you'll be buying a world of hurt. Good ones are expensive for a reason. I looked at a few GTis described as good before getting a J plate Driver with the cam and carb done for £300 with 9 mths MOT. Very late Drivers have all the toys - Central locking, PAS, Sunroof and '90 spec arches and side strips. So a set of wheels and 40mm drop springs and it'll look the business. If you find a good GTi get it, but don't go looking without taking someone who knows them it easy to disguise a lemon.
Barkstar :nerd:
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I always wanted a GTI after my cousin bought one, i was 21 when i got my Driver but i rushed into it! As it happens it turned out to be a good oine so ive kept it and built a GTI replica.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/SimonABT/DSC01654.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/SimonABT/DSC01655.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/SimonABT/DSC01505.jpg)
If i were you id get a Driver to start with, dont spend too much money on it and keep it tidy (dont chav it up- it will loose so much value) then when insurance is cheaper get a mint GTI and sell driver on! :wink:
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my first car was a gti :cool:
ask around, some companies do what they call bonus accelerator policies (i think thats right :undecided:) you get a 6 month policy at a little less than the cost of a 12 month but it gives you a full years no claims :grin:
So if you started the insurance today you'd get your next policy in 6 months with a years no claims discount - it works out cheaper in the long run, well as long as you dont crash :laugh:
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Definitely go straight in for a GTI, you'll only end up spending the money you saved on a Driver trying to make it look like a GTI!
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you'll only end up spending the money you saved on a Driver trying to make it look like a GTI!
On what? Front and rear spoilers and a couple of badges (if you must) Or really push the boat out and spend £50 on some big bumpers.
If I'd have found a good (as in not thrashed to death or worn smooth or Maxpowered) GTi with PAS and central locking for £300 and plenty of MOT I'd have bought it. Good GTis are now sadly few and far between and finding one will take patience unless you want to spend good money.
Barkstar :nerd:
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here's a nice 16v - needs a bit of tcl :laugh:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/MK1MADJ/f315edtEDIT.jpg)
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Buy the car you love, that way when it goes wrong and you have to spend money on it you'll forgive it!! :grin:
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my first car was a gti :cool:
ask around, some companies do what they call bonus accelerator policies (i think thats right :undecided:) you get a 6 month policy at a little less than the cost of a 12 month but it gives you a full years no claims :grin:
So if you started the insurance today you'd get your next policy in 6 months with a years no claims discount - it works out cheaper in the long run, well as long as you dont crash :laugh:
Be very wary of these policies. Mate of mine used to be a broker and said he would not go near them with a barge pole. Unfortunately I found out why when my wife tried to swap from hers (a well known jewel of a company) to a more established company who gave her a better quote. She had 10 months NCD (a year to Ruby) but when the other company found out it was not a 12 month policy they backed out. As did plenty of others. Eventually she managed to switch but her first insurer was realy picky over a no-fault claim and she nearly lost the accelerated bonus.
Won't make that mistake again. Pay the extra few £Â£Ã‚£- pay peanuts and.......
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my first car was a gti :cool:
ask around, some companies do what they call bonus accelerator policies (i think thats right :undecided:) you get a 6 month policy at a little less than the cost of a 12 month but it gives you a full years no claims :grin:
So if you started the insurance today you'd get your next policy in 6 months with a years no claims discount - it works out cheaper in the long run, well as long as you dont crash :laugh:
Be very wary of these policies. Mate of mine used to be a broker and said he would not go near them with a barge pole. Unfortunately I found out why when my wife tried to swap from hers (a well known jewel of a company) to a more established company who gave her a better quote. She had 10 months NCD (a year to Ruby) but when the other company found out it was not a 12 month policy they backed out. As did plenty of others. Eventually she managed to switch but her first insurer was realy picky over a no-fault claim and she nearly lost the accelerated bonus.
Won't make that mistake again. Pay the extra few £Â£Ã‚£- pay peanuts and.......
Mine was with the AA and kwik-fit had no problems when i changed to them :smiley:
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drivers are cheaper and in better nick for the same price as a gti. Meaning you can get a mint driver for the same you would get a dog of a gti.
slam a gti lump into the driver 1day job straight swap in a 1.6 driver. Cheap insurance as its a driver and GTI performance under cover.
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drivers are cheaper and in better nick for the same price as a gti. Meaning you can get a mint driver for the same you would get a dog of a gti.
slam a gti lump into the driver 1day job straight swap in a 1.6 driver. Cheap insurance as its a driver and GTI performance under cover.
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Til you crash, the insurance company void the policy cos the car's been modified - then you're well and truly fuc&ed
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isnt there quite abit of work when replacing a carb engine for a injection engine? im sure theres far more in it then simply swapping them round,  :huh:
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u remove the injection system and remove the TB and replace it with a weber carb! Know you have a 8v Carb powered GTI. This also gives you more va va voom
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ah well thats different, im doing similar to that next week, only im only doing the head, same result tho
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Offered him 380 he declined. So we met at 420!
:grin: :smiley:
I'm picking it up later..
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thats good news and a fair price, shame he wasnt as easy as the person i bought mine off, the starting price was 400 and i got it for 210 :grin: :cool:
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Driver or gti???
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1.8 Driver in Red
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Hi,
I've recently bought a 1.3L MK2 and am hankering after the perfomance of a GTi now.......
How much should a mint Mk2 Gti be? How much would I be looking at if I had to replace the engine in one?
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What should I look out for when looking at local motors?
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