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General => General discussion => Topic started by: jasonpi on 08 February 2006, 09:24
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is a good second hand 1.8t engine going for these days as restoring my valvers engine is gonna be somewhat expensive i.e a grand so im now toyinjg with the idea of a 1.8t conversion i know it goes against what i said but can i justify that much for a 40bhp max upgrade. any ideas??
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I reckon between 800 - 1200 for a 1.8t, change that to about 1700 for an Audi TT engine. I've got the number of a spares place down in Bedfordshire that told me he was breaking some TTs if you're interested.
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why so much for the tt engine and yeah any info would be great.
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I dont know why it's so much for the TT engine, I just remember chatting to a guy at GTI international last year and those were the sort of prices I was quoted. Give this guy a ring (Clive) and ask for some prices, 01525 210978.
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just spoke to clive he has 1 left engine code aqu 180bhp k03 turbo at 800 quid with 40,000 miles on the clock f-ing bargain but not for me as its gonna cost 150-200 quid carriage :cry:
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Even with the carriage costs, 1k for a 180bhp lump with 40k miles has to be thought about. How much would it cost to hire a van etc, get down there and pick it up, including petrol it's not going to be much different. :undecided:
You know you want to. :grin:
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I assume the TT lump quoted above is more expensive because when people mention a 'TT lump' they are generally refering to the 225ps as standard lump (even though the TT comes in a variety of outputs).
I assume it's much easier to use this lump as a base for further tuning.
:smiley:
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Loads of reading for you if you are thinking about 20v here Jason:
http://www.qpeng.com/
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My mate just bought a 180 all complete, 34000 miles, £650 delivered, somebody he knew tho :angry:.
May be worth asking a few people
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The 225 isn't the best base for big power as you might think. It's a good base if you want to keep it sensible ie, below 300bhp.
The code should of been AUQ as there wasn't a AQU code :nerd:
The 150 lump with AGU is the best one. It has larger ports on the head. Even though the bottom end's are pretty much the same you'll be changing pistons and rods (I hope) when you up the power.
150 engines have a k03 - good for 210bhp (220bhp max)
180 engines have a k03s - good for 225bhp (240bhp max)
210/225 engines have a k04 - good for 280bhp (300bhp max)
The first power is safe and reliable. the 2nd can be achieved, but turbo life is reduced.
As for the engine management... The OE management is good and reliable as we know from all the mk4's, A3's, TT's, etc on our roads today, but is plauged by the worst invention ever - the MAF. Most standalone management systems such as DTA, Emerald, Motec use their own boost map sensors which are a lot more reliable. The OE management monitors the engine in pretty much every place it can and has knock sensors so the management will rescue the engine if you're pinking or running lean to save blowing holes in pistons. Some of the standalone systems don't monitor the knock while means you can get that little bit more bhp from them as the OE will always fight for the side of reliabilty over raw power.
You will pretty much need the management remapped once it's all on the car and running to take into account that non-cat exhaust and free flowing intake. they can also adjust fueling and boost levels to bring the bhp up. The standalone setups will defiently require a map as the base one just about gets the car running and it's not advisable to drive too much on that.
I just paid £450 for a DTA ECU, I'll need a loom which are £305+vat from Stealth, a map sensor £50 and then Vince's time spent mapping my car at Stealth - another £400-500. That's gonna bump up your budget a lot!
I've written enough now :smug:
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My mate just bought a 180 all complete, 34000 miles, £650 delivered, somebody he knew tho :angry:.
Damn that's cheap.
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the 180 lump is the worst to go for really unless u only want 210bhp which you soon get use to and crave more! (like me)