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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Brads MK2 GTI on 29 January 2006, 22:02
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Outstanding-1991-VW-Golf-MK2-GTI_W0QQitemZ4608814891QQcategoryZ9873QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Bless ya!
So you reckon this low a mileage (if it's true) could actually be a BAD THING?????
After all it must have been stood for long periods, and a hell of a lot of short journeys, not always the best thing for cars. I gather they're meant to be driven?
Oh and how much will it fetch?
Let the discussion begin!
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want :drool:
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wow, that really is clean! look at the engine, could eat ur dinner of that!
but i bet it hasnt seen past 4k rpm in its life so i get what u mean by it possibly been a bad thing, a car that age and in that good concition would prob be bought as a show car and prob wont be driven hard ever!
i would be a bit wary if i started booting it all of a sudden it wont be used to it!
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cars that aren't caned are bad. all the workings clog up as they're never pushed to flow as much as when you're giving it the redline.
as said before. could be a bad thing. car looks good though as expected.
it was run without a MOT for 2 montsh in 1995! :nerd:
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:drool:
as said above a car is a mechanical object subject to operate under an amount of usuage. in this case measured in mileage. If that has been sitting in a garage for however amount of time, that thing is going to have problems, im afraid to say. It needs to have been started and driven around in order for the mechanical properties to hold thier stature and intended purpose.
never the less looks pretty dam clean
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That will go for 5-6 grand easy. Seen mk2 edition 1 16v g60 5dr 4wd go last year for 14 grand on ebay.
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edition 1's never came in 5dr... :undecided:
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there was a similar mk2 16v with 21k miles go for about £4500 on ebay recently, its amazing what people are prepared to pay!
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So anyone on here planning to have a bid on it if you don't mind being asked?
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it would be amazin to have, and with milege sooo low oyu won't mind goin long long distances in it... i definitely would.. soon clock it up!
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I am going to try to arrange to view the car as I live in central Scotland, so hopefully not too far away from me. I am very particular when buying a car so I'll hopefully be able to leave some useful feedback on this site re. the car's condition, etc. However, if it is totally mint, I'll be keeping it a secret all to myself.
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dont you think something like that could be an investment? If you kept the milage low and kept it running surely it will only increase in value over time as the mk2 inevitably gets rarer?!?
Looks good to me anyway
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^^ yea and just bring it out for shows!
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Hmm, not sure if I agree with that last comments. I can see it's a thing of beauty and should be kept that way, but it's also a machine that was designed for one purpose, to be driven. I suppose one or 2 mint ones in the VW hall of fame museum or whatever is cool, but not buying one as a collector just to make money on.
It's like me being a guitar player, some collectors will pay £40k on an original 60's Les Paul in mint condition, these guys probably can't play guitar and are only buying it to make more money, or as some sort of ornament. The guitar will probably spend all of it's time in that persons hands being locked up in a safety deposit box in some vault. Which is a real shame, as it's not fulfilling it's purpose.
If I had the money, I'd buy an original Les Paul, and I'd play it regularly. I'd never gig it however, that'd just be mental, in the same way if I had the cash I'd buy this Golf and drive the f**k*r regular, but I'd never enter it into a rally or suchlike!
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Hmm, not sure if I agree with that last comments. I can see it's a thing of beauty and should be kept that way, but it's also a machine that was designed for one purpose, to be driven. I suppose one or 2 mint ones in the VW hall of fame museum or whatever is cool, but not buying one as a collector just to make money on.
It's like me being a guitar player, some collectors will pay £40k on an original 60's Les Paul in mint condition, these guys probably can't play guitar and are only buying it to make more money, or as some sort of ornament. The guitar will probably spend all of it's time in that persons hands being locked up in a safety deposit box in some vault. Which is a real shame, as it's not fulfilling it's purpose.
If I had the money, I'd buy an original Les Paul, and I'd play it regularly. I'd never gig it however, that'd just be mental, in the same way if I had the cash I'd buy this Golf and drive the f**k*r regular, but I'd never enter it into a rally or suchlike!
my dad just bought a Les Paul!
i get what ur saying mate definately, but if u bought that golf and started driving it how it is supposed to be driven, all kinds of problems could cunjour up with it not being driven like it should have been! I bet the distributer is the first thing to go!
Its a shame that it hasnt been driven like it should!
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When I got my MK2 8v it had been owned by the same guy for 19yrs, he had done 3k a year (64k in since 1985) in it :shocked:, after a full service it still took me a month of gentle driving before I started driving it like a gti.........she absolutely flies now!!
22k is very low, and it is bound to have a few engine black spots in it!
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Dizzie vw made 50 limited versions of 5dr 4wd 16v version, only came in black. Lad at work who use to work for vw and dubsport has himself only seen one that came through his work yrs back. They fetch mega premium. Lots of people didnt no that vw use to race twin engined 16v mk2's back in 1989.
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I think this is what were thinking of;
http://www.vw-racing.org/
The Golf MK2 Limited, with it's 16v G60 ebgine & blue front grill & only 100 ever made, that site lists most of them and where they are now.
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That's the baby people dont believe sh!t i say :cry: It was a 100 then close tho :smiley:
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there is a thread about them in VW related i think, or it might be nonsense titled something along the lines of how rare is this
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yep, started by the viper i seem to remember.
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yes indeedy! :wink:
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Why is that in nonsense instead of in here??? Grrr..
Any ways back to the topic of this post, any one got any more guestimates of what this is going to reach? And I can't believe there's only one or 2 of you considering it. Go on, re mortgage you know you want to!
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I reckon about £4k to be honest, it is very tidy and all its history is well documented so fair play to the person who buys it!
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The current highest bidder uses this forum (illyun). :smiley:
There were 71 5dr 16V G60 limiteds made, just for the record. :nerd:
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The current highest bidder uses this forum (illyun). :smiley:
There were 71 5dr 16V G60 limiteds made, just for the record. :nerd:
whats the bidding at now and how long left? (I cant get on ebay at work)
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We're up to £3850 with 8 days 5 hours left! Wo-hoo! 100th post for me!!
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crikey, and with 8 days left, dare i say double figures!
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The current highest bidder uses this forum (illyun). :smiley:
There were 71 5dr 16V G60 limiteds made, just for the record. :nerd:
whats the bidding at now and how long left? (I cant get on ebay at work)
How the hell do you get by, not having Ebay at work? I reckong a bid of £5.5k will take it.
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The current highest bidder uses this forum (illyun). :smiley:
There were 71 5dr 16V G60 limiteds made, just for the record. :nerd:
whats the bidding at now and how long left? (I cant get on ebay at work)
How the hell do you get by, not having Ebay at work? I reckong a bid of £5.5k will take it.
I eat my words, it's up to £6k already. Jeez, somebody really wants this motor!
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I eat my words, it's up to £6k already. Jeez, somebody really wants this motor!
What's the point on people bidding on this with 7 days left to go ! :shocked: Or am I missing something. :huh:
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all I need are my six numbers to come up tonight :laugh:
Over 4000 hits on the page too: must be GolfGTI members following the action :grin:
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The current highest bidder uses this forum (illyun). :smiley:
There were 71 5dr 16V G60 limiteds made, just for the record. :nerd:
whats the bidding at now and how long left? (I cant get on ebay at work)
How the hell do you get by, not having Ebay at work? I reckong a bid of £5.5k will take it.
Ah mate Its painful there is always loads of posts, like check this out and a link to ebay and i cant look!
, it filters out anything to do with sport and leisure and also ebay, i am suprised it lets me go on the forum to be honest!
There used to be a code to get round it, thus bought a scirocco on ebay! ha ha!
£6K i think i was right in saying Double figures then!! :shocked:
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7k right now! what would this car have cost brand new? seems like a hell of a lot for a car no matter what its condition. i heard the guy took of the speedo and it had a sticker on it that said "oh no, not again" :grin:
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I eat my words, it's up to £6k already. Jeez, somebody really wants this motor!
What's the point on people bidding on this with 7 days left to go ! :shocked: Or am I missing something. :huh:
Shadowing the auction, people get people they know to start bidding getting the price up.
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Did anyone notice what the reserve was?
The guy must be really into his rare-low-milage cars, his last car eBay sale was a 'Show Winning Ford Escort RS1600 i Super Condition' with 62k miles. he bought for £5k.
I was in VW salvage yard yesterday and they were talking about this golf there also.
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The reserve was £3k. Does seem odd that he's got these low, low mileage cars knocking about, yet he doesn't say he's a collector. In fact he says he only had this car for his wife!
I reckon it's going for a well over inflated price. Does any one know what the new book price would have been for this in 1991 roughly? And don't forget even if it looks good you can't really use it like a normal car, at least not till some serious running in. Fairy play you might win some concourse shows with it, but how many till you get your money back?
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Parkers list the price for 1991/J mk2 gti 8v as £13,341
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I eat my words, it's up to £6k already. Jeez, somebody really wants this motor!
What's the point on people bidding on this with 7 days left to go ! :shocked: Or am I missing something. :huh:
Shadowing the auction, people get people they know to start bidding getting the price up.
I think that happened to me when i bought the rocco! I was in a heated bid war, i put a high bid in for £450 but was only at £430, then in the last 10 mins the guy who i was bidding against matched my bid of £450 but coz i bid first i was winning, i emailed the guy saying i will let him have it as i had bid too much, so i said if he bids a £1 more then i will not bid anymore, he said no! But he matched my bid for £450!! so i think it was the sellers mate to be honest!
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Chaps,
I know some of you will be disappointed but i am an avid :nerd: fan of E-bay and do a lot of buying and selling off this site, over the last 5 years i have learnt 1 golden rule, NEVER EVER PLACE A BID NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT AN ITEM UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:.
Set a limit on how much you are willing to go and ALWAYS ALWAYS, check the bid history, i have been keeping a keen eye on this Golf low mileage over the last few days and know for fact on the bid history that there is Phantom bidding, thus it has stayed static for nearly 24 hours, for a bit of fun i was going to put a bid of £6999.01 but worried that i might be landed with a overpriced classic.
Great car but hell a crazy price :laugh: :laugh:
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I am a long term Ebayer and see no evidence on phantom bidding here. All the bidders have decent credibility and are clearly VW nuts (look at their history)
Why do you think it is Phantom?
This car is probably one of a very small number this original. Throw all your price guides out of the window - it will sell to hte person who wants it most (and can afford it) - its not as thought there are 5 others for sale if you don't get this one.
BTW- Much as I like it, think 7k for a red 8v is a bit mad. Metallic 16v with leather & lots of options would be a diff story
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We are all VW nuts and would be curious to see what out limits are when bidding for such a miniter, he does say he is a collector and if he is he may have friends bidding on it, yes i agree with the last post some of the bidding is genuine enough but the 1st 3 or 4 are a bit dubious, the car itself is an absoulte gem but as the last post stated for that kind of dough i'd be lloking for a G60 spec with similiar miles, full leather etc etc.
The buyer who gets this will find it hard to get a full return on his/her ivestment other than showing the car, this car is for the Vw hardcore nut who wants a prestige vehicle for Sunday driving and an odd show, christ i'm jealous already.
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I picked my Mk2 gti up 3 years ago with 28k from new in the same condition with the same credentials; it’s now done 50k but still has that ‘new’ feel to it. I say it’s worth the extra to experience the closest you can get to a new Mk2 gti (mine cost 4k btw)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/makum/Gfront.jpg)
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Has anyone actually viewed this car. I e-mailed the seller on January 30th requesting a view. He replied on the same day asking for my telephone number and I am still waiting for a call (5 days have now passed). I actually posted on this site that I was planning to view the car and report back to you guys after I viewed it. It is possible the seller is quite happy with the bids, however, I am a bit worried that he has not got in touch to offer me a view. What do you guys think?
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Does seem a bit weird that mate. I mean for the sake of a phone call, maybe he'll get someone else in a bidding war and make more money. If I was you and I really wanted to see the car, I'd bombard him with e-mails.
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Why do you think it is Phantom?
Probably because it is on nearly 7k and that was with 5 days to go. Smacks of getting people to bid it up for him tbh.
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I actually think there must be some other reason. Why does he not want me to see the car? Read my earlier post about feeding back to this forum. I might be totally off the mark but why does he not want me to view the car. Obviously the car is a few years old but he is appealling to those amongst us with a sense of nostalgia and who might be inclined to spend some silly money on a trip down memory lane. If the car is viewed in the cold light of day it might knock a sense of realism into the viewer as it might have a blemish or two here and there that does not quite match up to the image of what we are looking for.
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Totally agree with last post, Chancer maybe ,Genuine Maybe, But if i got £7K for a Mk 2 i would'nt let any other Vw nut view it and spoil the bid? Questions still have to be asked?? :undecided: :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:
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Agree with last comment. Probably bombarded with emails (over 10000 page hits) and happy with price. Doesn't want to jeopardise the sale at that price. I can understand that, as whoever views the car will be expecting a NEW car due to the bidding being at £7k and the hysteria this has created - perhaps that is unrealistic, the original advert did say there were a 'few marks' - in fact you can see scuffs on the plastic bumpers. A VW concours nut may take offence by that!!
7k for a red 8v seems a lot, but that is the great thing about Ebay, it sets the price for one-offs. That would pay for 2 years depreciation on the Mk5 I am considering!
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i could not see myself spending that much on a mk2 unless i had a very large disposable income.
im thinking of polishing my one up and clocking it back, get a new empty book stamp it up a bit get a new MOT for it.. and wa hey.... low mileage golf... :grin:
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Hello, the low mileage cars are coming out of the woodwork now! Check this one out;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-Mk2-Golf-Genuine-40-000-miles_W0QQitemZ4610851323QQcategoryZ9873QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hmmm, old skool baby!
E plate with 40,000? Not enough details for me, but reckons it has full VW service history. What do you guys think?
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As far as I am concerned it may as well be an Austin Maestro. Only see any value if it sells for £400, as it may be quite a reliable shed for running to the tip. Can't imagine getting excited at the thought of cleaning it!
What moronic behaviour to have it serviced by VAG every 3k! dealers must love people like that
Chris
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What about this one instead then, loving this :cool: Check out the mileage and by the look of it it's not going to be much more than the red 8v. :shocked:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-Rallye_W0QQitemZ4609952197QQcategoryZ9873QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Holy sh!t! Don't people buy cars to drive anymore! They're some mental prices!
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Agreed, I just dont know how someone can have a car like the Rallye in the link above and not want to drive it. :huh:
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Yeah, did he say something like 900 miles in 8 years? That's just cruel to the car man.
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has the bidding ended on golf number 1? or how much is it going for now?
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Still going, last time I checked it was at £7,100. I'll check again after dinner. Seems to have slowed down now, but will probably go mad near the end again!
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the world has gone mad, surely if some one wanted a nice golf, then they could of got a G60 or a Rallye, or one of each with that sort of coin!!
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7k? one tidy enough rallye, one good late mk2 and a slightly rough mk1 gti. sorted :tongue:
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7k? one tidy enough rallye, one good late mk2 and a slightly rough mk1 gti. sorted :tongue:
exactly, the world is up side down, hamburgers are going to start eating people soon!
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B.U.M.P!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Outstanding-1991-VW-Golf-MK2-GTI_W0QQitemZ4623895494QQcategoryZ9873QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Oh dear, oh dear, it's back again!
Anyone want to wager what it'll fetch this time around?
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Noticed someone posted it in another section. It's all been said before, but you would get paranoid about putting any miles on it & what's the point in having a car sat around not doing anything. :undecided: It might be just me but I've no idea why people would bother not driving and enjoying the vehicle.
Oh yeah another thing, what's the point in bidding on it when it's got 6 days to go ! :shocked: I really dont get it.  :huh:
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Dude, you really need to change the whol "champions of Europe thing" :)
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Dude, you really need to change the whol "champions of Europe thing" :)
Why for ? :huh: I think you'll find it's still true unless I missed a European cup final somewhere along the line ! :wink: :laugh:
Another jealous non European champions supporter eh ! :rolleyes: Anyway, stick to the topic. :grin:
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Was telling a friend of mine about this Mk2 and he knows someone who has the last edition 16V with 18000 on the clock, oly drives it once a year on Chrimbo, Sad for both car and owner, waste of having a GTi, hopefully the lucky winner doesn't do the same with this beaut.
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i wouldnt care that the mileage was low. if anything it means i could cane it harder for more years before it blew up low!
i bet tho as soon as it gets some stick it will break cos engines can be underused and then if they get driven hard they break....
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im gonna buy it and turn it into a track day car, watch the vw purists cry :evil:
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.......with neons
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and paint it with thinners :laugh:
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:grin:
you do realise as soon as that car goes in the sun it will become tornado pink.
best keep it as a winter only car lol.........
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Hmm..
I would say this has been clocked.
If you look at the inside pic the accelerator rubber is missing..... I wouldnt expect that to happen within 20,000 miles....
Hmm....
I dont think 22000 is right.
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Should the acc. pedal have a rubber?
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no only continental golfs had that.
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Hmm..
I would say this has been clocked.
If you look at the inside pic the accelerator rubber is missing..... I wouldnt expect that to happen within 20,000 miles....
Hmm....
I dont think 22000 is right.
nah its deffinatley not been clocked, they never came rubbers,
also have u seen that engine bay?? never seen anything like it?? every part looks like brand new.
I emailed the guy about 2weeks after he had sold it, just out of curiousity if the winner actually bought it, and obviously it hasn't, said it was one of those send 10k cheque from friend, etc. He said how he was so suprised how much it go to.
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Sellers, do you know how much he actually wants for it then ?