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Title: Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: mazza 8V on 14 November 2003, 14:22
Has anybody had this setup before?

Have just bought a set of Boge springs 20mm and 4 Sachs gas shocks which are identical to the Boge Turbo Gas shocks and G60 top mounts , since VW use Boge as standard how good will this setup be?

Any help appreciated.
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: golfvr6 on 14 November 2003, 15:15
Probably ok , as long as you didn't buy it from German Swedish and French.
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: mazza 8V on 14 November 2003, 15:30
I didnt get it from GSF, bought it from VWSPARES.CO.UK.

Been reading some posts about how bad these kits are and a bit worried as i am having it fitted tomorrow.

Spoke to TSR and they also do the kit, they say its fine as they get theirs straight from Boge, they also mentioned GSF not being proper.

The struts are in Sachs boxes, called Sachs Advantage, they have the made in Germany label on them.

Springs are in box, made by Boge and are 20mm lowering, i have asked GSF about their Boge springs and thaey only do 35mm and lower so hopefully the ones I got are ok.

 
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: mazza 8V on 14 November 2003, 15:32
BTW got everything including mounts and bump stops for ?212.

Cheers
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: golfvr6 on 14 November 2003, 15:32
The boge springs GSF do are un-even on the fronts. I have seen several sets of these. Good luck, i hope they are ok.
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: mazza 8V on 14 November 2003, 15:38
Is there any way of checking if they are uneven, I mean is it obvious just by looking at them side by side?

Thanks
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: golfvr6 on 15 November 2003, 00:06
Just compare each spring like for like. When assembling the front struts, the springs should need compressing, if they don't and you can move the spring when the strut is assembled then reject the kit.
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: modulater on 15 November 2003, 17:21
The boge springs you buy from aftermarket places are nothing like the original springs in terms of quality or metal type.

Having a set in my shed that I replaced as they were naff i wouldnt recommend this set up to anyone.
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: jedi16v on 15 November 2003, 23:45
just bought a bilstien kit for ?210 complete with 40mm lowering springs and shocks TOTALY AWESOME!!! (WHAT ROUNDABOUT) HEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!! ;D
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: golfvr6 on 16 November 2003, 10:00
Nice  :D
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: warne16v on 16 November 2003, 11:07
just bought a bilstien kit for ?210 complete with 40mm lowering springs and shocks TOTALY AWESOME!!! (WHAT ROUNDABOUT) HEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!! ;D

where did you get the kit from?
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: jedi16v on 16 November 2003, 11:50
shhhhhhh don't tell anyone but igot them from HALFORDS quite good actually coz i got them on 6 months intrest free so i thought i'd buy a momo steering wheel at the same time. which is nice!!!!. ;)
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: Helios_Blue_Valver on 16 November 2003, 11:58
nice one. may have to give them a look
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: mazza 8V on 16 November 2003, 18:21
Hi,

I'm back, fitted the Boge Springs and Sachs gas shocks yesterday with G60 top mounts.

The springs lower it by 20mm and it sits perfect!

Now heres what I think:  The car feels a lot more solid, hard ride, when you hit a pot hole but again it feels solid and not crashy.

Now the bad news, don't know if this is normal but the car feels a little bouncy over uneven road and can make you feel a bit sick over some time.  Let my wife drive the car and being a passenger was not all that comfortable.

The bloke who fitted the kit said it will settle and become a bit more comfortable but I don't know.

Is this bounce due to the springs being crap or the shocks?

It handles really well and the steering used to be quite light but now its nice and tight.
 
I'm already thinking of changing the springs but don't know if the Eibachs will be softer and if i can get them in 20mm.

Should I wait some time or will the ride not get and softer?

Cheers guys.

Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: OmeN on 16 November 2003, 19:09
I got my kit from GSF, was friking robbed I tell thee.

BUT I did manage to take some bits back that I didnt need, however not as cheap as you got it mate.

Had them fitted about a month ago.
I think the ride on a smooth surface is quite nice, holds the road well, doesnt over bounce on sudden changes in the road...but it feels a bit hard and not greatly comfy driving it now...which is a shame.

I definatly cant be arsed to change them over for better ones because I dont have the cash to do that really.

Where did you get your shocks from at that price?

BTW was that halfords thing with a credit card only?
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: golfvr6 on 16 November 2003, 22:41
The springs will settle over a few hundred miles. I found the boge kit from GSF had a really hard harsh ride. Changing the springs for eibach ones is a good idea as they are some of the best springs you can buy. I think they do a 20 or 30mm drop on a mk2, about ?130.
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: free on 17 November 2003, 09:20
ive goy boge springs on mine and there crap, the frount end is diffrent hights each side, the back is ok theo
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: golfvr6 on 17 November 2003, 10:30
Did you get them from GSF? i think GSF get all the reject stuff from BOGE, so be warned...
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: mazza 8V on 17 November 2003, 12:09
I got mine from vwspares.co.uk, checked the springs side by side and they were even, the car sits perfect but still not happy with the ride on uneven roads, maybe they will get a bit softer after a few miles.

Will the Eibach springs be a softer ride? if not then I will end up putting back the originals.


Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: golfvr6 on 17 November 2003, 15:41
I wouldn't say the eibachs are soft, they are firm but comfortable.
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: mazza 8V on 17 November 2003, 23:17
Think will give them a chance, maybe 500 miles and then if still not happy get 20mm Eibachs fitted.  Wonder if I put back my old springs it would be ok, would it not handle as well as it does now?

Had a quote from VAG for 16V springs, ?50 each!!!!!!  That is robbery and they wouldnt even tell me what make they were!



Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: OmeN on 18 November 2003, 01:41
"Did you get them from GSF? i think GSF get all the reject stuff from BOGE, so be warned... "

Hey if thats seriously true there should be some serious investigation into that because selling duff parts to customers is unnaceptable, and if thats bullcrud its a vicious rumor for just saying they suck...

What are the FACTS on GSF apart from being crap?
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: mazza 8V on 18 November 2003, 09:22
No didnt get them from GSF, the kit seemed OK, measured up all the springs and they were equal.

Does the slight bounce I get on uneven road come from the shocks or the springs?
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: Blue MK2 on 18 November 2003, 14:13
Does that apply to Euro parts? Reject stuff?

I brought a replacement big bumper from them. Fitted well ???
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: OmeN on 18 November 2003, 14:18
see now everyone is paranoid.

lol
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: golfvr6 on 18 November 2003, 15:46
You need to be paranoid about GSF, as they are sh!t.
Title: Re:Boge Springs and Sachs Gas Shocks?
Post by: OmeN on 18 November 2003, 17:27
LOL, maybe im lucky or something but the guys down at my one are nice and helpful, they have always given me numbers for local guys who are breaking, and i've so far not had any problems with things i have bought from them.
 :o