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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: richy on 08 November 2003, 17:21
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I've heard that VW made some 1.8 Normally aspirated GTIs when the Mark IV first came out. Does anyone know if these are any good, and where I can find the specs for these engines? I'm looking to buy a 4-5 yr old GTI soon, but I can't quite afford a 1.8T, and I'm a bit concerned that the 2.0 is only 8valve
Thanx. ::)
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have no fear there is another!, i have one a 1.8 20v gti (non turbo) great motor, my mates got a 2.0 8v and mine can walk all over his, 1.8 20v is 125 bhp, 2.0 8v is only 115, ive driven both and wouldnt say its tourqier like the mk2 8v compared with the 16v, the engine is good youve just got to keep the revs high to keep it going, ive had 130 on the motorway, so it aint bad and for some strange reason its only got a group 10 insurance!, this closed the deal for me as i couldnt stretch to a turbo either! all i can say is take one for a test drive, and make sure the saleman if with ya lets you rev it!, let us know how ya get on, get lookin as theres always some bargins to be had on the run up to christmas when car sales slow down slightly! ;D
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Spot on Kniterider. Also got a 1.8 non Turbo, and it's still bag of fun. you did to ricky that 0 - 60 just over 9 sec as standard, probably one of the quickest non turbos on the road. (thats not a que for a debate, all you saxo charvas).
with regards spec, besides wood dash, ricardos and 16" alloys the turbo and non turbo are identical. ooh with the exception of drive by wire throttle on the turbo, so you can retro fit cruise control.
bset thing is theres more non T';s out there an T's so you can be picky with optional extras - climate, cd, after market alloys.
hope this helps.. :o :o :o
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Thanks guys. Thats exactly what I wanted to hear! - There's a couple of normally aspirated 1.8 Turbos around for sale near me at the mo'. Might take one for a spin, so I can compare with 2.0 I test drove last week.
Do you know where I can find out full engine specs for the 1.8 non turbo Mark 4? I know it was only put in the early ones, but I've trawled the web for stats and can't find any. I'd like to be able to compare it with the 2.0 and 1.8T.
Cheers :)
Rich
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Richy
www.parkers.co.uk (http://www.parkers.co.uk)
go to car reviews, then golf +98, then performance and consumption.
R,R,R,L,L,L,D,D,D, and hey-presto, all golf engines to compare.
hope this helps.
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The 1.8 non-Turbo was only in the GTi for about 3 years, after which VW ripped it out and put back in the engine from the Mk3 8v. Make of that what you will. Incidentally, I've driven the 1.8 GTi and a Mk3 2.0 8v. The 8v is quicker by a very noticeable margin.
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have you compared a 1.8 20v to a 2.0 8v mk4?, mk3s not the same car, try cimparing both then see how you get on, the mk4 is heavier than the mk3, dues to its spec, compare then decide, like i said i have driven both mk4s the 1.8 20V (NON TURBO) AND THE 2.0 8V (WHICH MY MATE HAS), my motor is alot quicker, yeah youve got to rev it but hey so what drive a mk4 2.0 8v then have your say!, ( hey not wanting a load of hassel from 2.0 8v owners!)
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Well I am not gonna start the arguement..
Right i have a mk 4 gti 1.8 20v non turbo which i purchased it last march from vw looker dealer near my local
I had 2 option of 1.8 20v or 2.0 8v at the same price ?9000 but my 1.8 20v is a T reg and the 2.0 8v is W reg even the sale man said not to go for 2.0 8v as it got less bhp which i knew ..
So took the 1.8 20v for test drive so the min i got back to dealer the car sold to me without trying out the 2.0 8v.
But may i say one thing .. i had a V reg vauxhall vectra 2.0 16v which has 136bhp which i p/x for the golf but 2.0 may be big engine and faster but believe me my golf gti is faster than the vauxhall vectra even it only 125bhp and love the sound of it when racing !
i love my car and love the power it provide me !
Very happy with the car now !
My pride and joy! ;D
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BIG UP NOW FOR THE BORO BOYZ.
Thick we can conclude the 1.8 is tastier all round than the 2.0.
Like every car has at least 8 valve, unless you drive a vauxhall 'noddy car' corsa. Its 20valves or nothing.......
nuff said ;D
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oh yes! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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rickardo ..
You live local near me?
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Guisborough, mate.
what about you?
I tear-ass up the parkway into town. daily
Not many of us on this forum. What are lookers like for servicin??
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live in middlesbrough!
not sure abt looker's service .. thinking of doing myself !
i am a family man myself .. :-\ wife use the car alot ! can't win with women eh !
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I know that feel, mate.
was going to chip, K&N, and exhast mine.
But the chick said two thing, insurance and fast enough!!!!
(and before anyone else says it, squeek squeek).
never know buddy, might fly past each other.
mines a S-reg, 5 door dark metallic red, totally original (whilst the wife has her way)
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want that for mine, k+n remap and miltek, take it to about 148bhp with out any internal work, not bad i reckon considering there aint no turbo there to speed things along lol!!! ;D
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Yeah .. second that mate my wife doe the same ..
but i am tempting go for full stystem milltek exhaust .. poss a replace element k&n filter
My car now got 17in audi tt alloys full chrome and front headlight eyebrow .. look wicked also just put in the full whole job light bulb for the headlight ..
power bulb philip light ! blue and white mix ..
Better vision now !
My is T reg indigo blue 5 door Gti
U got pic of ur golf mate ? As i have pic of my
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how much for remap ? ... u know ?
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think about 380 nicker, revo dont do it for the non turbo but i cant remeber the naame of the firm that does! r+a design at grimsby told me will find out for ya
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Richy
www.parkers.co.uk (http://www.parkers.co.uk)
go to car reviews, then golf +98, then performance and consumption.
R,R,R,L,L,L,D,D,D, and hey-presto, all golf engines to compare.
hope this helps.
I checked out the site, and it quotes the 1.8 non turbo GTI as 0-60 in 9.9 secs, but strangely enough it had 3 entries for 2.0 Golfs, each with quite different performance. They all had 115 bhp but had 0-60 times of 10.2, 11.9 and 9 seconds! How can the same engine produce such varied performance? The website didn't quote the number of valves, but if they one of these had more then you would expect greater horse-power.
Can anyone enlighten me, as to how this can be??!?!
Cheers
Rich ???
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VW didn't do a 2.0 16v for the mk4 , only 1.8 20v and 2.0 8v. 0-60 in 10.2 secs sounds about right.
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never looked at parkers before, i know as vr6 has mentioned never a 2.0 16v in mk4 form, the only reason i can think of extra figures for the 2.0 115 bhp is 3dr,5dr, and cab?
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Yeah - maybe the cab & 5-door's extra weight slows that baby down.
Rich
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If you want my opinion the 2.0 8v is a shopping trolley and isn't worthy of a GTI Badge
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I have a mk3 GTI 8v and its no slouch.
Ok, so its got brand new Injectors in it and its all been cleaned through the fueling system etc... but ... IT GOES.
.. oh and the 1.8T 180Bhp.. YUK... feels like ya sitting on a cloud.. ya so high up.
same goes for most mk4's lol
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I have a mk3 GTI 8v and its no slouch.
Ok, so its got brand new Injectors in it and its all been cleaned through the fueling system etc... but ... IT GOES.
.. oh and the 1.8T 180Bhp.. YUK... feels like ya sitting on a cloud.. ya so high up.
same goes for most mk4's lol
I guess this "1.8 normally aspirated" thread shouldnt become a mk3 vs mk4 debate but still... We had a black R-Reg 8V Gti in the car fleet at work a few years ago. Obviously with it being a company car it was unmodified. I drove it and im my opinion it wasn't a very 'hot' hatch. Straight line speed and acceleration were very ordinary and the handling was interesting - it had a stiffness when you went over bumps in the road, as if the shocks were quite stiff, but if you launched it in to a corner there was as much body roll as in a mk4, but with less comfort. Also the engine/exhaust were quite noisy and rough, it just seemed like a lot of noise for very average acceleration. I think I was mainly disapointed because for a car that was fairly recent it didn't seem to have progressed that much from 1980's hot hatches, in any department. Again apologies to any mk3 owners (Im sure most people in this forum like mk3 VR6s!) but then this is a mk4 forum!
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Sorry black_gti , the mk3 8v is pants ;)
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so is standard mk4 handling, which is why i lowered and uprated within a week of having the car!, now its loads better,
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So how come you are lucky enough to have 2 golfs? :-*
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because i need 2 cars for me and the mrs to go to work in!, that and we both enjoy driving either!!!!
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You're lucky! shame they are both slow ;) :-*
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hey thats a bit b!tchy! ;D
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HA HA ::)