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Title: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: richard ellison on 20 December 2005, 11:29
Had car checked over and bascially it looks like engine is knackered.

As it's an old 1.6i engine, its pretty rare I can get hold of a replacement one of these. Found a company with a 1.8 Gti for £175+VAT which is very good, HOWEVER my insurance are being arseholes saying they wouldnt insure me

If i get it replaced and 'forget' to declare it- will i have a problem finding insurance renewal quotes in april?

So stuck on what to do?!  :cry:
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: Judderi on 20 December 2005, 11:35
There are plenty of insurance companie out there that will insure you with an engine conversion. However if you needed to claim and hadnt told them about the engine conversion and they spotted it they would just laugh at you and say NOPE.
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: richard ellison on 20 December 2005, 11:38
yeah I understand that- thats the risk I would maybe look to take.
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: Judderi on 20 December 2005, 11:40
You could also enqure about closing your policy and getting a refund. Often this is not feasable as they only give you about £50 out of £500 but they may take pitty on you if you explain the situation and ask nicely.
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: martinb on 20 December 2005, 11:48
as above you must disclose the engine swap or could end up uninsured in the event of a claim which would increase next years premium and could lead to a conviction! Who you insured with at the moment?? how old are you? I would have no probs getting you a quote with an engine swap. if you wanna see if i can get you a good deal call me @ golf+ insurance on 08451 266366 or pm me ya number and i will call you.
With engine swaps we normally just rate it on the group of the donor vehicle.

hope this helps :smiley:
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: martinb on 20 December 2005, 11:50
if you have to cancel due to your insurers not accepting the risk then you can normally get them to give you a better cancellation rate than if you just cancel normally. It does depend on your insurer but always good to ask

Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: topher on 20 December 2005, 12:01
just out of interest martin (sorry to drag this off topic for a moment) how do you rate ins. groups for hybrid/custom engine swaps ? is it based on bhp ?
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: martinb on 20 December 2005, 12:22
yeh we use percentage loadings based on the increase in bhp of the engine (or the donor engine not original if there has been an engine swap).

Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: Dizzie on 20 December 2005, 13:07
My insurance went like this...

8v lump - £650
20vT (150bhp) - £650
20vT (210bhp) - £850
20vT (300bhp) - £1150

I only asked about the 300bhp option even though mine was around the 200bhp mark.
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: martinb on 20 December 2005, 15:01
who you with dizzie?

would be similar with us,

from standard 8v to 20v turbo SHOULD be no change as they come out the same group,
20v turbo (+60bhp) 210bhp would work out about 35% load,
20v turbo (+150bhp) 300bhp would work out about 55% load

so that works out similar to what you got i think  :smiley:
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: Dizzie on 20 December 2005, 15:07
brentacre in swansea.

it's only £470 at the mo as I'm insured on a standard 8v.
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: martinb on 20 December 2005, 15:26
doesnt sound bad for your age.Is that comp or tpft? im not allowed to insure myself  :cry: and i tried brentacre for my last renewal and thought they were very good. Flux turned out the best for me though.

Still gimme a try at your next renewal though cos im sure i could still beat them all though!!
 :grin:
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: Dizzie on 20 December 2005, 15:30
fully comp.

u can still do me a quote on the 20vT if you like. I'll email you the complete up to date spec if you want.
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: martinb on 20 December 2005, 15:36
easier if i speak to you, takes betweem 5 to ten mins to run through a full quote, should be quicker if you have had a quote from us before?? pm me your number and i'll give you a bell if u want?
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: richard ellison on 21 December 2005, 15:06
Weighing everything up I have gone for the expensive but standard choice of a full refurb (top & bottom end).

Hopefully having an original 1.6i engine may add a few quid when I come to sell it.

This car will be the death of me (and my money).
Title: Re: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! HELP! Advice needed!
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 21 December 2005, 15:17
I wasn't aware that the 1.6's are getting rare? i know of 2 sat around doing nothing as we speak

have you tried volkspares? (0208 778 7766)  i got a re-con from them when my engine went boom at 110mph (messy), it was about £600 fitted (not including the replacement crank case & dizzy) was fitted in 2 days and got better every day i drove it - i miss that engine, damn DVLA and their crushing un-taxed car policies :angry: