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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: mk2_singh on 18 December 2005, 23:38

Title: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: mk2_singh on 18 December 2005, 23:38

I no what the response is straight away dnt bother get a GTI etc. Been there had one wrote it off, got points, got a 1.6 auto driver!

im quite handy with mechanics and im sick to death with a auto box, ok its nice to drive around town but sh!te on motorways with its 3speed box.

if i get myself a pedal box, gearbox, gear linkage. is this as easy as it sounds and a bolt on job?

also can the 1.8 gearbox be run with a 1.6 cos its got longer ratios so will see me better consumption on the motorways.

i cnt afford to sell the golf and buy a manual! and i cnt afford a GTI. and my driver is in excellent condition, not a scracth or dent anywhere. when i mean its mint i mean ITS f**king MINT, makes my breath so fresh. so hence i must stick with this until i find a decent job.
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: mk2_singh on 19 December 2005, 16:17

Ok so no one wants to answer me. I know i must sound really stupid right now. and you lot must think im some young immature person etc etc chatting sh!t on our forum.

But i kid you not people. I am quite serious to convert this car from a auto to a manual.

I will it do it the trail and error way then i suppose.  :undecided:
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: silkyballs on 19 December 2005, 16:29
i cant see any reason why you cant change it straight over.im very surprised nobody has answerd you yet.try having a look through previouse questions should be there some where?good luck!
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 19 December 2005, 16:38

Ok so no one wants to answer me. I know i must sound really stupid right now. and you lot must think im some young immature person etc etc chatting sh!t on our forum.

But i kid you not people. I am quite serious to convert this car from a auto to a manual.

I will it do it the trail and error way then i suppose.  :undecided:

Not a case of no-one wanting to answer you, more a case of no-one knows if its possible or how to do it i would of thought.
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: silkyballs on 19 December 2005, 16:42
i would have thought somebody here has an idea of whether it can be done or not?best thing is get yaself another gearbox and just try it it you have any probs and you get over it atleast you'll know and you'l be able to help others!
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 19 December 2005, 16:48
it's not really that hard to swap a gearbox over mate, just arduious, cos you need a good day to do it and then get the linkage set up again, and either be string enough to hold the weight of the gearbox yourself, or have someone there helping. (gearbox weighs about 40kg+ at an estimate from hauling my old one and replacement one around and then attatching it)

If its possible then i will be able to help in the attaching the manual one, but not got a scooby about the auto and whether it will work.
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: silkyballs on 19 December 2005, 18:04
tell me about it?i done my own clutch and box was a piece of cake when you got som1 helping!
wont the splines be different on a 16 to a 18 my guess is youl have to put a 16 box on it or do a rod change?
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 19 December 2005, 20:23
if you are changing the box then yes, the splines for the clutch are different 8v is 21 16v is 24.
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: rubjonny on 20 December 2005, 17:55
You'll also need a manual steering rack, and I think the clutch is different on the auto boxes so you may need the flywheel from a 1.6 manual car.
After that it is just a case of unbolting stuff & swapping over :)

Edit: Oh and the auto carb is slightly different to the manual one, there is an extra vacuum connection which you may need to blank off, but I'm not 100% on that one.
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: mk2_singh on 20 December 2005, 19:51

hey thanks for all this.

sounds like a load of work... will get more concrete info before i start arsing about. if im going to do an engine swap might as well be something decent thats cheap to get hold off and not to expensive.

i was planning on a 8v conversion, what is the 2.0 like from the mk3? any good in a mk2?
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: rubjonny on 21 December 2005, 08:03
Works well in a MK2, and pretty straightforward to do.  It will even fit on the bottom of your 1.6 head, though you'll need a webber carb to get it running right.

The easiest way to fit is to convert your motor to Digifant fuel injection and use the head off a Digi GTI, then you wont have to mess about with the dizzy it'll all just plug in :)
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: Teletom on 12 April 2007, 20:35
just a little bump to this topic, I'm considering this project now I have a good source of spares sitting on my drive (it had an argument with a tree on a narrow country lane...nuff said) and there's several immaculate condition auto's I've seen for sale...

mine's a 1.3 injection (it really is!!) so don't know how much is useable from it, i assume I'd need a gearbox and clutch from a matching size engine from the scrapyard?

Any help anyone can offer is much appreciated

Cheers!
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: rubjonny on 13 April 2007, 08:09
interesting little car you have there, quite rare!
there isnt anything engine/fuel/gearbox wise you can use from the 1.3, its all different so you'll need everything from a donour car.
You'll need a gearbox from a GTI of some kind, and you match the clutch kit to the gearbox :)
You'll need a flywheel from a GTI as well, plus you'll have to think about what you're going to do about fuel & ignition, if you have a donour car the same year as yours you can just swap everything off it (hazard switch on dash = pre-90 spec, hazard on column = 90 spec)

Carbs would be easy, you just need to hook up an accumulator and leave the old 1.3 pump in, this should supply more than enough.  It wont be man enough for injection though, so if you go that route you'll need the in-tank & main pumps, fuel lines, injectors etc.
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: Teletom on 23 April 2007, 23:06
thanks a lot for your help there, I think that's going to be far too big a project for my novice mechanic skills, still it was worth entertaining the notion...
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: monzablue16v on 24 April 2007, 19:07
You will need the shift rod and mounting box from a manual might need a blast with the mig welder in a few parts, have a go they are all built on very similar shells anyway so can't see it been too hard. (famous last words!)
Title: Re: manual gearbox conversion?
Post by: rubjonny on 24 April 2007, 20:10
no welding required, just lots of bolting & unbolting :grin: