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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: roon on 06 November 2003, 20:24
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Some buying guides suggest that if an 89 gti has big bumpers , then they must have been added. But I have seen a few (all 16v) 1989 built and registered with not only big bumper, but amonst other things, PAS. Were these all possible 89 extras or were some 89 16v as per 90s spec?
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Not too sure about exact dates, but my 88 16v had pas as standard. I presume it is possible to have big bumpers on a late 89 model but can't say for certain.
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my dad had a G plate with little bumpers just to throw a spanner in the works. totally standard.
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The big bumpers did not come in to Aug 1990, so there are G reg golfs with little bumpers. Anything before that date will have the small bumpers, so if someone has added big bumpers be careful as most of them are poor patent crap. Have a look at wheel arches as these were extended on the genuine big bumper models, alot of the pre-90 cars that have been modded with the big bumpers don't fit at the bottom where they join the wheel arch.
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So an 89 16v that has rainbow trim, big bumper, PAS cannot be a proper 90 spec? Alot of effort to go through though. Like, if it was changed late in life you'd see where the wider plastic trim across mid doors was on the paint unless they respray...or are we suggesting the big bumper mods were done back in the early 90s on many?
Until this conversation I've kinda based my test of a 90 spec on whether the engine coolant thingy in the top right is a sphere or the more rectangular shape.
Any more views. There's a 89 I really want :)
Also does anyone know any more on the catalyst thing. The figures I have show the non-cat to have 139bhp and the cat ones to have 129. I've driven 89 16v with the KR engine code and they seem faster than other standard 90+ but I've never checked an engine code. Can anyone check their engine code for a 91/92 16v for me and see it it begins with PL instead (the ones with the cat).
Cheers
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the big bumper was first released in Aug 89, its called 90 spec because the majority of them are 1990 onwards, most waited for the new reg year before buying one
no 16v's have cats, and are all KR engine codes
cat was only an option on the digifant 8v
the hazard light should be on the top of the steering column shroud also in a 90 spec
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Ahh aug 89 not 90 you make me happy then ;D
Slightly confused on the hazard switch. I'm sure on my old 89 spec with no big bumper or pas , the hazard switch was on the steering column behind the wheel. I take it, with that oddity aside, a non-90 spec would have it up on the dash with the fogds etc?
Oh btw while typing this particular 89 golf guy just rung up to tell me he added the big bumpers :) The giveaway shoulda been the lack of working fog lights - another sign.
So who recons if its sound I should get it? under 90k miles with full VAG history. Says he used official vw bumper parts and the pas and e/w are original. Tis hard for me...finding a non-pink tornado red.
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PAS was std on 88-89 16valves
and as an option on >90
Rainbow trim was late 89 onwards
the spherical water expansion tank is a good tester - as is the placement of the hazard light switch.
My latest Valve has VDO guages - whilst my two cars previous (both 89 - had Motometers. So this maybe another annomoly.
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Now we've covereed how to spot a non-90. Is there anything inferior about the <90 16vs? e.g. was the spherical expansion tank part of an important improvement?
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Also, how easy is it to add fog lights. I take it there has to be some accuracy in where they point at the ground?
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there is more light from a candle than the fog lights, so it dont matter where they point!
http://www.veedubz.co.za/tech/vwhist.htm
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PAS was std on 88-89 16valves
and as an option on >90
Rainbow trim was late 89 onwards
Nope, PAS was an optional extra until the late 89 ('90) model. Then it became standard.
Tin
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PAS was std on 88-89 16valves
and as an option on >90
Rainbow trim was late 89 onwards
Nope, PAS was an optional extra until the late 89 ('90) model. Then it became standard.
Tin
YOU'RE WRONG
or am I thinking of e/windows?
PEDANT
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i think that power steering was an option up to some time in 1990
electric windows became non standard on the 16v between aug 89 and oct 90
and the 8v got full 16v spec in oct 1991
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Hmm, pretty certain mines a 90's spec (Aug 89, and everything as Haynes says for that spec :)), and hazzard's on the dash (mind the steering column has been modded).
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Oh yes i think i meant aug 89 not aug 90 :o
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Everything became an option in 1990 except pas. Even electric windows went back on the options list before returning as standard in 1991 (mine has keep fit ones...) Were the BBS standard on 1990 spec 16v ?
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My F reg '89 has 90 spec doors(no quarter lights and mirrors further forward) and small bumpers. I was told by a chap at the VW garage that '89 is the only year they were factory that way. Anyone know the truth to that?
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My 1992 8v hasnt got electric windows. Im thinking PAS came standard and electrics where still an option?
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PAS was std on 88-89 16valves
and as an option on >90
Rainbow trim was late 89 onwards
Nope, PAS was an optional extra until the late 89 ('90) model. Then it became standard.
Tin
YOU'RE WRONG
or am I thinking of e/windows?
PEDANT
OMG - someone has STOLEN the PAS on my late 88 16v then!!!!
Your thinking leccy windows. :)
Tin
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PAS was std on 88-89 16valves
and as an option on >90
I have an 1989 16v with no PAS!!
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yeah - power assisted windows - that's what I meant.
top tip . .
DON'T DRINK AT LUNCHTIME
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