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Title: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: Dizzie on 08 December 2005, 10:52
I need to remove the wings to get my tracking done on saturday. is it safe to drive without a front bumper on?
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: Judderi on 08 December 2005, 10:56
Ive heard mixed opinions on this one. Some people say no because its keeps the chasis together but i can see no evidence of this. Personally i would say yes its safe. Probably not legal though.  :grin:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: GTI EDITION (aka LTD) on 08 December 2005, 11:06
On the mk2 the 4 bolts that secure the bumper are also securing the front cross member therefore  the front engine mount . There are 2x8mm bolts that still secure it when you remove the bumper but I personally wouldn't risk driving it like that . 
The only way you could is to remove the 2 bumper brackets from the main bumper and refit them so that can refit the 4 bolts .

But make sure there are no jagged edges exposed and that you have all your indicators and numberplate  as Mr Plod may not be too happy if you get stopped. :sad:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: Mr Blue on 08 December 2005, 11:16
if you decide to drive without the bumper. Just put the 17mm bolts back in.

not legal thou :laugh:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: GTI EDITION (aka LTD) on 08 December 2005, 11:27
if you decide to drive without the bumper. Just put the 17mm bolts back in.

not legal thou :laugh:

Dizzie will need to use the bumper brackets as they have the captive nuts where the bolts screw in to  :wink:

P.S. Bythe way  Dizzie why do need to take the wings of to get the geometry done?? :huh:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: tobz. on 08 December 2005, 11:32
P.S. Bythe way  Dizzie why do need to take the wings of to get the geometry done?? :huh:

My thoughts exactly, seems extreme.
Also have the front wings been off before? If not VAG use a ton of sealant along the trailing edge that makes getting the wings off intact a right pain.
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: Daz... on 08 December 2005, 11:55
i thought some places had the equipment that doesnt need to go over the top of the wheels...sure theres one round here  :undecided:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: Mr Blue on 08 December 2005, 12:04
you can do it yourself with a piece of string and level ground :nerd:

wing off job is a new one to me  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: Dizzie on 08 December 2005, 12:13
cos everyone I goto says they can't do my car cos it's too low!
If I take the wings off the front they can't say that.
I need to work out a way to drive with the wings on and then remove them in minutes when I get there. Likely to  be held on with 2 bolts. If I can still do it with the bumper attached I'll do that. I think I can!
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: GTI EDITION (aka LTD) on 08 December 2005, 12:19
Ahh ,I see your prob  :undecided:

How about making a fibreglass or even a carbon fibre  flip front like they do with minis etc  :cool:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: Neaty on 08 December 2005, 13:52
isnt one of the mounts for the front bumper an engine mount aswell? or have i just made that up?  :laugh:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: ...joe on 08 December 2005, 14:15
On the mk2 the 4 bolts that secure the bumper are also securing the front cross member therefore the front engine mount . There are 2x8mm bolts that still secure it when you remove the bumper but I personally wouldn't risk driving it like that .
The only way you could is to remove the 2 bumper brackets from the main bumper and refit them so that can refit the 4 bolts .

But make sure there are no jagged edges exposed and that you have all your indicators and numberplate as Mr Plod may not be too happy if you get stopped. :sad:

100% correct.

seems funny that they won't/cant do your car dizzie? mines been done and its a fair bit lower than yours? :huh:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: Dizzie on 08 December 2005, 14:34
must be different kit for different places. everywhere I've been round here says it's too low. I'll just bolt the wing on with 1 bolt on the top and then slot it in with the bumper. hopefully it'll hold together. then I can just undo the 1 bolt and slide it out from the runners on the bumper. I won't be doing over 30 mph anyway.

cheers
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 08 December 2005, 15:04
dunno if your anywhere near farnham, theres a place called merrows tyres (think its called that) that can do low cars
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: j_s on 08 December 2005, 16:39
Veedub, I believe Dizzie is in Wales so a bit of a treck  :grin:
Also are you talking about the tyre place by the train station? If so my dad rates them as well  :smiley:
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: wag,en,volks on 08 December 2005, 20:34
so is my caddy legal and safe ?,
its a mk1 caddy that has been debumpered on the front ,do i have to have a bumper ? and is the bolt situation the same on the mk1?
Title: Re: no front bumper on mk2. safe?
Post by: GTI EDITION (aka LTD) on 08 December 2005, 20:56
so is my caddy legal and safe ?,
its a mk1 caddy that has been debumpered on the front ,do i have to have a bumper ? and is the bolt situation the same on the mk1?

No you don't, mk1 bumpers are mounted differently and the engine mountings are different also . :wink:

As long as you've got indicators and numberplate fitted and no sharp/jagged edges you'll be fine  :smiley: