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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: rickardo on 03 November 2003, 19:27

Title: six speed shooter
Post by: rickardo on 03 November 2003, 19:27

I'll give my mk4 buddies a go since the garage boffins were no help :P

A chance to get me sticky mitts on a six speeder out of a 52 plate gti turbine.

question - will it couple up to my 99 1.8 gti non turbo??

if so what effect will it have???

Title: Re:six speed shooter
Post by: Franko180 on 03 November 2003, 19:50

I can't comment on wether it till fit your non turbo, but I can tell you about the 6 speed. I had the 5 speed in my old 1.8t 150 and have the 6 speed in my new 1.8t 180.

I'm not so sure about the 6 speed myself. With the 5 speed I seem to remember it would do 41 in 1st, 72 in 2nd, 100 in 3rd, 120 in 4th and 140+ in 5th. Motorway cruising at 70 was about 3500 rpm I think.

But with the 6 speed they closed the ratios down, I'll have to 'test' it, but I think 1st is about 39 and 2nd is about 65 so you get less speed in gears and have to work more. Motorway cruising at 70 is about 3300 rpm I think, so I'm not sure what the advantage is, 6th is certainly not an 'overdrive' gear.

I've got a couple of mates with GTI 150 Diesels, I'm sure they said motorway cruising is much lower/quieter revs in 6th gear.

I'll check my speeds in the 6 speed again, but I'm pretty sure the speeds in the 5 speed are accurate as I've done over 170,000 in 2 different GTI 5 speeds.

Not sure if the "speed in gears' tests are the best, but there you have it, would be interested to see what other people think.

Title: Re:six speed shooter
Post by: kniterider on 03 November 2003, 20:22

not sure as to wether its a straight fit, if it does fit to the block i think its a bigger clutch, then all the selector bits and bobs, ireckon you should stick with your 5 speed, ive got a non turbo, there nippy but there only 125bhp, id spend the money on a remap, miltek free flow cat and system, and a induction kit, this will take you up to around 148bhp, which aint that far of the standard 150bhp turbo! i think id buy a six speed gear knob, and spend the time thrapping 148 horses about rather than changing gear alot more times.

Title: Re:six speed shooter
Post by: AdamB on 03 November 2003, 20:23

Quote from: kniterider on 03 November 2003, 20:22

i think id buy a six speed gear knob

LMFAO

Title: Re:six speed shooter
Post by: Franko180 on 04 November 2003, 13:09

I did some brief tests today, but roads were so busy could only do 1st and 2nd,  haha..

1st was 39mph, 2nd was 62mph

motorway 6speed in a GTi 180

70mph in 6th 2800rpm
80mph in 6th 3200rpm

So the revs are lower at motorway speeds than in the 5 speed and for me it is a benefit due to my car having done 11,000 since June, mainly motorways! I guess the tighter 1st and 2nd ratios help with acceleration to 60, the car is certainly quicker than my previous, but thats mainly down to the  30 extra horses I would think!

I did like the 72mph in 2nd 'feature' on the old 5 speed and to be honest would have liked that gear box with a 6th overdrive gear for cruising.

Title: Re:six speed shooter
Post by: rickardo on 04 November 2003, 17:50

cheers lads.

the box would of been a free-bee, just the cost to make it fit.

Will stick to tried and tested mods.

mucho grassy-arse (spanish footballer with no legs) ;D ;D

Title: Re:six speed shooter
Post by: kniterider on 04 November 2003, 22:46

hope of some help rik, would rather see the tuning options than the six speed option much more fun!