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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: roon on 02 November 2003, 20:15

Title: g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: roon on 02 November 2003, 20:15
Okay I've read everything I can find on google. But I still can't figure them out. A g60 is front driven 8v with the gladder? Rallye is same but 4x4. Although some g60 can be syncro, which is not the same as the permanent 4x4 in Rallye (someone needs to explain to me how syncro works)? Then there is the g60 ltd which was a 16v gladder and prolly my dream (being the operative word) car as a 16v fan? I know Rallye has the very different look, which I don't like. Are there any g60 syncro or Rallye in 16v (not aftermarket converions)?  But if anyone knows much about these variants please share  :)
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: golfvr6 on 02 November 2003, 20:26
All the G60s are 1.8 8v supercharged as far as i know. Some are synchro, which is permanent 4 wheel drive, split 60/40.
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: roon on 02 November 2003, 20:43
So what sets Rallye apart from a g60 syncro in the engine department then?
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: golfvr6 on 02 November 2003, 20:47
I think they are the same. I thought there is the g60 and the rallye that is a synchro. Anyone?
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: roon on 02 November 2003, 21:16
One history I read said that the Rallye was 7.6 0-60 and the G60 was 7.1. Not sure about that because G60 supposed to be slower than a 16v on 0-60 (according to another site).
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: tinman on 02 November 2003, 23:35
My understanding is very simple:

G60 - supercharged 8v engine developing 160bhp front wheel drive

Rallye - as above but with 4 wheel drive

G60 - limited edition - 210bhp front wheel drive

Simple as that.

The G60 and Rallye share a part number 357 code, which is also the part number for some 16v parts, but not all.

Tinman
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: Gambit on 03 November 2003, 11:07
G60 ltd edition was 4x4, only came in black, 5 door shell, small bumper, grill has a blue surround & a small VWmotorsport badge

leather heated electric recaros

and only 75 or so ever made
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: roon on 03 November 2003, 11:39
Yer limited got much of that extra power from using the 16v engine with the g-lader I think. This chart is really helpful: http://www.gtiworld.fsnet.co.uk/GTIs.htm
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: Slim Shady on 03 November 2003, 11:41
Rallye is slower than a G60 cos 33% of power is lost in the drivetrain in the synchro system.

Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: roon on 03 November 2003, 11:46
Yer and mods aside, on paper a g60 is slower on 0-60 than a 16v heh.  But I think that all the bhp making contact with ground can only be good.

Shall we all chip in and buy a limited on time share :) Saw one for sale somewhere.  Don't jabba do rhd conversion for 2k?
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: Gambit on 03 November 2003, 12:01
if i did find one, i sure as hell wouldnt be gettin it converted it RHD

it would sit under cover in a garage and only come out on the dryest of summer days!
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: roon on 03 November 2003, 12:01
Although its probably cheaper to convert a g60 or a rarer g60 syncro which is already rhd to 16v limited engine. Seen some kits in the states.
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: roon on 03 November 2003, 12:06
Well my feelin with mods is that I only do what VW woulda done today - which usually isn't much. But I'm sure they woulda made some rhd for us  ;D
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: roon on 03 November 2003, 12:12
And anyway they were built for driving not locking up. Best have em out on the road well maintained. I don't like the idea of nice golfs being hidden away like antiques; to be sold when the owner feels a bit skint or when the value goes up.  Not our fault vw ignored the Biritish martket after we were so loyal in buying all the other GTI varients. I'm fine with producing a limited in whatever way I can.
Title: Re:g60s, Rallyes and Syncro
Post by: tinman on 03 November 2003, 17:30
And anyway they were built for driving not locking up. Best have em out on the road well maintained. I don't like the idea of nice golfs being hidden away like antiques; to be sold when the owner feels a bit skint or when the value goes up.  Not our fault vw ignored the Biritish martket after we were so loyal in buying all the other GTI varients. I'm fine with producing a limited in whatever way I can.

??

If someone wants to lock away their Golf then thats really up to them. When (If??) my Golf ever returns it will be facing a life of dry summer days, and weeks on end in a dry garage under a dust cloth.

As for its value increasing - its going to take about 40 years for the value to ever get near what I've paid for it, and even then it'll never catch up the compound interest of the value I have invested in it.

Tin