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Title: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 10 November 2005, 11:46
this is well tempting  :shocked: but is it worth £1150??? - anyone know what power they got out of them

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Complete-VW-golf-Mk2-16v-original-Turbo-Technics-kit_W0QQitemZ4587846990QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWD4VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Neaty on 10 November 2005, 13:15
I think the 8 valve's were about 200 so prob a bit more than that!
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 10 November 2005, 13:59
Hmmm with the german kits they reckon on about 350-400  :nerd:
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Neaty on 10 November 2005, 15:06
crikey!!

in the Golf + magazine the other month, there was a 16valve turbo in there with 260 bhp, and i have a sneaky suspicion that it was a turbo techniks jobby, either that or it was uolt with turbo techniks parts!
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 10 November 2005, 16:16
I asked the seller and here's what he said

Hi,
It would be better to lower the compression. It would work on a stock engine but possibley without much gain.
The eaisest and cheapest way to lower the compression would be to use 2 headgaskets, or a thick copper plate sandwiched between gaskets. these come on on ebay in the US quite often, are are fairly eaiser to find on the net.
The original turbo technics used offset small ends on the rods, weird way of doing it.
You will need to find somewhere to take the oil feed from as well, but thats no major hassle.
Power wise, you will be looking at around 200bhp - i think the original one was just under - stealth racing took over supplying the kit when TT stopped - they modified it slightly by using a different ecu and another set of injectors - i believe they got it to around 210bhp.
Biggest gain is in the low end torque - you'll end up with a car that has the low end grunt of an 8v with the top end power of a 16v. Its quite a smooth progression - not a masssive shove in the back that you'd get with a bigger turbo. Very driveable.

Hope thats of some use,

Tom.


 :laugh: Not really tom no, a tuned 2.0 16v shoud do that without the turbo  :lipsrsealed:


nah i think i'll stick with one of these

http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/16vturbosystem.html  :evil:
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Neaty on 10 November 2005, 16:21
i think a way over lowering the compression so its just right for turbo is to put a mark 3 1.0 16valve bottom end on your mark 2 16 valve (the" your mark 2" was used hypertheticaly by the way)
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Neaty on 10 November 2005, 16:22
sorry that should of said 2.0 16valve bottom end, not 1.0, how pointless would that be!  :grin:
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 10 November 2005, 16:45
I did wonder why you said 1.0l  :rolleyes:

I haven't actually fitted the 16v yet, i'm thinking of building one of the G60 based ones i keep reading about then i don't have to worry about compression  :nerd: just the engine management  :cry:
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Neaty on 10 November 2005, 17:02
I was pondering the othr day about how it would work because i dnt think u can but a 16valve head on a g60 bottom end coz the compressions wrong (i think)

I tried doing a search on the web for the G60 Limited and there isnt much about!
I think one day i might have a stab at a Supercharged valver, but my extremely limited mechanical attributes are going to hinder my progress somewhat! Lucky i have a couple of mechanics as mates!!
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 10 November 2005, 17:17
I was pondering the othr day about how it would work because i dnt think u can but a 16valve head on a g60 bottom end coz the compressions wrong (i think)

I tried doing a search on the web for the G60 Limited and there isnt much about!
I think one day i might have a stab at a Supercharged valver, but my extremely limited mechanical attributes are going to hinder my progress somewhat! Lucky i have a couple of mechanics as mates!!

I've read quite a bit about 16vG60's on vwvortex, apparently it gives you the perfect compression for turbo's  :laugh:  :evil:
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: ...joe on 10 November 2005, 17:33
my mate built a 16vg60 corrado. definately not one to try on a whim
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 11 November 2005, 12:33
my mate built a 16vg60 corrado. definately not one to try on a whim
What a turbo  :huh: is he on here i wouldn't mind a chat  :grin: :kiss:
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: topher on 11 November 2005, 12:41
my mate built a 16vg60 corrado. definately not one to try on a whim

but you've gotta love how many people think you can just slap a kr head on a pg block and be away :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: jv on 11 November 2005, 12:52
nah i think i'll stick with one of these

http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/16vturbosystem.html :evil:

except they haven't been able to supply the manifold for ages :( custom build is the way!
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 11 November 2005, 12:57
There's loads of manifolds on ebay.de, theres an adapter plate for using 20v manifolds too which looks quite interesting.  I think my biggest worry is the engine management - megasquirt seems the best value but theres quite a lot of setting up involved  :huh:  :evil:
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: ...joe on 11 November 2005, 14:46
my mate built a 16vg60 corrado. definately not one to try on a whim

but you've gotta love how many people think you can just slap a kr head on a pg block and be away :grin: :laugh:

tell me about it!! they tend to go off the idea when john talks about custom manifolds, brackets, etc got to say though his is soooo sweet sounds incredible.

What a turbo :huh: is he on here i wouldn't mind a chat :grin: :kiss:

no he's not on here and its not turbo'd. he was going to turbo it to get over 400bhp and got all the parts but then decided he just loves how it is and how it drives so is sticking to super charged. oh that and a fully blueprinted race spec 16v on throttle bodies which he's putting in a westfeild which is almost all carbon fibre!!! should fly.......
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Mk1Mad J - 16v on 11 November 2005, 14:55
 :undecided: I have thought about using a supercharger but i'm pretty set on the turbo now
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Martz on 11 November 2005, 21:00
 :lipsrsealed:

 :tongue:

I spoke to one of our Bodyshop people today and his mate had a Rallye pushing 280Bhp from a 8v G60. Thats would be fast enough.

(he staked in though :cry:)
Title: Re: 16v turbo Technics kit on e-bay
Post by: Neaty on 12 November 2005, 20:24
my mate built a 16vg60 corrado. definately not one to try on a whim

but you've gotta love how many people think you can just slap a kr head on a pg block and be away :grin: :laugh:

naive almost  :grin: