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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: alland on 19 January 2025, 16:54
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I'm seriously thinking about buying a spare wheel for my Mk8 GTI. However, I'm not that keen to give VW the ridiculous money they are asking for one, so I started looking elsewhere (eBay, aftermarket, etc.) and have come across various problems I hadn't considered before.
My car has 19" Adelaides, factory installed. What would be the correct size of space-saver I could get away with?
With that in mind, would the underfloor wheel well in the boot accommodate this? (I have read that a special "scalloped" trim at the rear of the wheel well may be required to allow the wheel to fit in the boot space)
Also, would that wheel size clear the front brake callipers OK? I have also read of people buying an aftermarket spare, only to find it will only fit the rear wheels, so in the case of a front puncture it has to be fitted on the rear and the original wheel fitted on the front.
As usual, all advice (which is invariably more knowledgeable than the dealers) greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I’ve got 19” Adelaide’s and have recently obtained the parts to fit a spare wheel and jack / tools into the boot on my Clubsport. These are the bits you’ll need:
1. 18” Vag spare wheel found on many VW Audi group cars
2. Boot floor threaded post and fixing screw
3. Vag spare wheel jack and tool kit (mine was off a Leon).
I did not have to get a scalloped trim, I think you mean the trim against the bumper edge inside with a cut out? Mine seemed to have a curved part and the wheel fits.
The problem we will all have is getting a skinny space saver over the front calipers. The only way I think this can be dealt with is if you have a front puncture, you’ll need to swap a good full size rear wheel to the front and put the spare on the rear where you have a smaller caliper.
I got the spare off gumtree, Jack and tools off eBay plus the threaded post and screw. Just search around and you should find all the bits for under £100.
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I've got a factory supplied spare in mine. It's an 18, nothing bigger fits in the hole!
I have adelaides too.
If you have a clubby it won't fit on the front as the calipers are too big but will on a gti.
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Thanks for the information. I'll get searching now.
Just as an aside, a neighbour of mine (not particularly car minded) got a puncture recently. He pulled over, got the user manual out and studiously followed the instructions on using the tyre repair kit. He was chuffed to bits it actually worked, and got him going again as far as the local Kwik Fit; where he was told the puncture was simply a screw right in the middle of the tread area - but the tyre was un-repairable because he had used the mousse supplied in the repair kit. New tyre required.
Not having any experience with these kits, is this true?
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I believe so, combination of the chemicals in the sealant affecting the tyre long-term and also it hampers puncture repair methods also having already plugged the hole (this is what i understand anyway). Additionally, the tyre places probably don't fancy cleaning up all the mess the sealant makes to do the repair for £20 or whatever they charge, quicker to sell a new tyre.
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Yes the tyre gunk means your tyre is not repairable under any circumstances.
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There's a big thread about spare wheels on a Golf R forum. There are a bunch of images.
The worry though is as you've said, the larger brakes on the clubsport. I wonder if there's a space saver that would fit them.
You can apparently fit it without too much issue, even if the car was specced with the HK sound system which adds a subwoofer.
https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/40576-spare-wheel/page/8/
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Thanks for clearing up the tyre repair kit mouse issue. Not so clever after all, if you use it you may get out of bind, but you're looking at a new tyre (even if the old one was repairable) plus a new can of the mousse stuff - if indeed you fancy using it again.
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AS per my original query, I'm still searching for a suitable space saver spare wheel, plus jack/tools, etc. Not easy if avoiding original VW bits!
I have come across a new wheel including the jack and tools from a company called The Wheel Shop at what seems a reasonable price. Has anybody come across them before, or had any experience in using them?
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Hi, yes I ordered a space saver wheel and tyre from them for our 128ti, came quickly, no problems at all. :smiley:
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Hi, yes I ordered a space saver wheel and tyre from them for our 128ti, came quickly, no problems at all. :smiley:
I didn't order a jack kit though, as I wanted a genuine BMW one.
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Hi I’m looking for a wheel for my club sport as vw says the standard spare won’t fit over the front or rear brakes, does anybody have a redundant wheel for sale or know where I can get one , many thanks
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Hi I’m looking for a wheel for my club sport as vw says the standard spare won’t fit over the front or rear brakes, does anybody have a redundant wheel for sale or know where I can get one , many thanks
Don't think such a thing exists.... and I thought it was only the front it wouldn't fit on? The rear calipers aren't any or significantly bigger than a GTI?
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AS per my original query, I'm still searching for a suitable space saver spare wheel, plus jack/tools, etc. Not easy if avoiding original VW bits!
I have come across a new wheel including the jack and tools from a company called The Wheel Shop at what seems a reasonable price. Has anybody come across them before, or had any experience in using them?
Yes, I ordered an 18 inch spare wheel from them back in November. They seem a reliable and efficient company. See page 96 of the "What have you done to your mk8 today?" thread for details. Since that post I have checked that I can actually get the wheel nuts off all the wheels with the supplied telescopic wrench (always worth checking!) and tried out the scissor jack. All work fine. Bargain at £139 and the wheel just fits within the boot floor recess.
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Had a spare from my old
Golf and it didn’t fit the rear, have found a site that do a spare just for the club sport but it’s £300 !
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Had a spare from my old
Golf and it didn’t fit the rear, have found a site that do a spare just for the club sport but it’s £300 !
Was the spare from your old car a spacesaver and if so, what size is it?
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Had a spare from my old
Golf and it didn’t fit the rear, have found a site that do a spare just for the club sport but it’s £300 !
Can of gunk or call the AA for a tow...
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What site was it??
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Had a spare from my old
Golf and it didn’t fit the rear, have found a site that do a spare just for the club sport but it’s £300 !
VW would charge you £300 for a space saver including jack and tool kit for a Golf (ex Clubsport) if specified as an option when ordering a new car. It always costs more adding genuine OEM parts to an existing car (alloy wheels is a good example), so if you were to get a VW dealership parts department to price up a space saver spare, securing bolt, plus jack, tool kit and polystyrene/ foam type tray for the jack / toolkit you’d be in for a shock!
Therefore £300 for a (presumably) non-OEM brand new spare specifically for a Clubsport is probably the going rate.
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What site was it??
I'm guessing by the price it's this one from Road Hero
https://www.carnoisseur.com/products/details/road-hero-spare-wheel-kit-to-fit-volkswagen-golf-mk8-rh034
I highly doubt it'd fit in the wheel well though I'd love to be wrong.
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Getting the parts from the dealer will be expensive but you can buy them on Ebay or from breakers yards.
I got the following parts for my 8 Clubsport (see bottom pic for the correct part numbers).
The part numbers correspond to the wheel, tyre, lower foam (aka tool box base), upper foam (aka tool box cover), wheel bolt wrench, securing strap for foam, jack, jack handle, securing bolt for wheel to floor pan. You can transfer across the towing eye, locking wheel nut key, wheel bolt cap removal tool into the new toolbox.
You will also need part number N90871301, this is a press stud that fixes the lower foam to the floor pan. There's a stud in the floor pan that needs to be exposed by pushing it through the carpet (see pic).
As others have said with the Clubsport or R the spacesaver doesn't fit on the front because the brakes are too big (think this is why VW don't let you spec one from factory on Clubsport or R). If you get a flat on the front, just need to fit the spacesaver to a rear wheel then fit the removed rear wheel to the front, no dramas there.
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AS per my original query, I'm still searching for a suitable space saver spare wheel, plus jack/tools, etc. Not easy if avoiding original VW bits!
I have come across a new wheel including the jack and tools from a company called The Wheel Shop at what seems a reasonable price. Has anybody come across them before, or had any experience in using them?
Yes I bought an 18" space saver and a jack kit from them for my 2020 Audi A3. No problems with the wheel shop. I sold the Audi and now have a mk8.5 GTi with a HK subwoofer in the boot. The wheel fitted perfectly after removing the subwoofer first and then re-fitting it. I don't have the inserts that fit around the spare wheel to store the jack kit, but the jack kit came in a bag with velcro strips on it which sticks the bag to the boot lining. I also have a storage net which helps to hold the jack kit in place.
Hope this helps.
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I suppose the next question would be, is there a wheel out there that will fit over the front brakes.
There was some discussion on another VW forum about an old Audi TT spacesaver that might do the trick. I need to do some more digging.
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‘Road Hero’ sell space saver, jack and brace sets for every vehicle.
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‘Road Hero’ sell space saver, jack and brace sets for every vehicle.
I think the unknown about those is if they'll fit in the boot well. I expect that they won't so you'd need to carry it in your boot all the time.
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What site was it??
I'm guessing by the price it's this one from Road Hero
https://www.carnoisseur.com/products/details/road-hero-spare-wheel-kit-to-fit-volkswagen-golf-mk8-rh034
I highly doubt it'd fit in the wheel well though I'd love to be wrong.
Not sure about the Golf, but the Road Hero spare certainly doesn’t fit the spare wheel well for some other cars I’ve considered; the Road Hero spare is supplied with a storage bag and the bagged wheel lays flat on the boot floor, taking up valuable boot space.
That would stop me getting one - especially if boot space is important.
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How important is it to get a spare that is as close to your original wheel size as possible?
I have 19" wheels, what size spare should I buy?
John
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You need the 18 inch space saver wheel, which will fit in the wheel well. Compatibile as a temporary spare for cars with 18 or 19 inch wheels.
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Does anyone know if a space saver from an Audi S3 will work for an 8.5Gti? (Part no. 1J0601027M)
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Does anyone know if a space saver from an Audi S3 will work for an 8.5Gti? (Part no. 1J0601027M)
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The space saver being advertised at the link below also has the same part number (1J0601027M) but the ad. states the PCD (bolt pattern) is 5x100 which is the bolt pattern for the mk4 Golf and the Polo.
https://www.stevensvwspares.com/ebay_listing/370962788962
The mk5 Golf and later models of Golf have a PCD (bolt pattern) of 5x112, so assuming the Audi space saver in your post is the same as the one in the link I’ve posted, it wouldn’t fit a mk8.5 GTI.
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"The mk5 Golf and later models of Golf have a PCD (bolt pattern) of 5x112, so assuming the Audi space saver in your post is the same as the one in the link I’ve posted, it wouldn’t fit a mk8.5 GTI".
Is there an easy way of identifying the bolt pattern???
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"The mk5 Golf and later models of Golf have a PCD (bolt pattern) of 5x112, so assuming the Audi space saver in your post is the same as the one in the link I’ve posted, it wouldn’t fit a mk8.5 GTI".
Is there an easy way of identifying the bolt pattern???
It’s stamped on to the back of the wheel, or you can measure the centre of the bolt holes if you actually have the wheel.
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I’ve also read elsewhere that they can repair tyres that have had the repair mousse in them but they choose not to because it’s a messy job for them. I’m inclined to believe this.
I ordered mine from the factory with the spare and the Harmon Kardon sub sits nicely within it.