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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: MervJnr on 07 March 2024, 10:07
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Looking for some new tyre recommendations - I imagine tyre topics come up a lot so I apologise! :wink:
The standard Bridgestones on my GTi PP are nearing the end of their life so I'm looking to get some new shoes. Currently got a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6's in my basket for just under £350 which seems pretty good value for a well rated tyre(?).
Does anyone have any experience of these, in all weather and seasons? Any comparisons with Pilotsport 4/5's? Currently looking at ~£100-150 more for a set of the Michelins.
Thanks in advance :smiley:
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Mine had Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres and changed to Pilot Sport 4S, I'm happy with them and would opt for them again next time, grippy and good performance in the wet compared to the Cup 2. Not too sure what they're like noise wise or the longevity as it's a car that does little miles and has reduced sound deadening.
To be fair any of those performance orientated tyres from the reputable brands are going to be good and they'll all have pros and cons, if one excels at one particular thing will lack something else. I've always just liked Michelin's, when it comes to performance most will opt for a Michelin, and I'm not sure if it's a thing but I like the look of them too :laugh:
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Replaced my Bridgestone Potenza’s with Michelin PS5’s, much quieter. Can’t comment on wear too much as only done less than 5K on them since fitted 12 months ago.
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Same offer was in place last year when I got mine, really easy to claim the £100 back.
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Looking for some new tyre recommendations - I imagine tyre topics come up a lot so I apologise! :wink:
The standard Bridgestones on my GTi PP are nearing the end of their life so I'm looking to get some new shoes. Currently got a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6's in my basket for just under £350 which seems pretty good value for a well rated tyre(?).
I've got the goodyears fitted to my summer wheels and I can't fault them :smiley:
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Goodyear AS6 here, amazing tyre with superb grip. Downside is they wear quicker than most.
Once these are done I'll probably try the Continental SC7, because I har a lot of great things.
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This is probably going to go against what many say here but I actually quite like the Pzero's that are fitted to our GTI.
The main reason is that they never seem to wear, whist still offering pretty decent levels of grip and comfort.
On my other car (BMW M140i) have the Goodyear Asssymetric 6, and the rears are nearly shot at 7500 miles of mostly gentle driving, the fronts are about half worn.
Grip wise they are better obviously, but the difference isn't huge. The Pirelli probably offer 95% of the grip, but offer around 3 times the life.
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This is probably going to go against what many say here but I actually quite like the Pzero's that are fitted to our GTI.
The main reason is that they never seem to wear, whist still offering pretty decent levels of grip and comfort.
On my other car (BMW M140i) have the Goodyear Asssymetric 6, and the rears are nearly shot at 7500 miles of mostly gentle driving, the fronts are about half worn.
Grip wise they are better obviously, but the difference isn't huge. The Pirelli probably offer 95% of the grip, but offer around 3 times the life.
I'm surprised by yours and ProtoCultures experience, usually it's the other way around. Obviously I'm not saying it's not true, just interesting how people have different experiences. Pirelli are well known for being soft but grip well giving high tyre wear. My own experience with Goodyear asymmetric 5 and then 6 is positive for wear. The assymetric 5 lasted me 20k miles on the front of my Leon and that's the most I've ever had from front tyres on any of my cars. It now has asymmetric 6 all around and seems to be wearing quite well. My wife now drives it so that could change how well they wear as we have different driving styles. One thing I will say is that subjective feel was better for me on the assymetric 5.
A few tyre tests that test wear also have Goodyear wearing well.
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-AutoBild-UHP-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-Tyre-Reviews-Performance-Tyre-Test.htm
I'm also interested to know what matthewh did for sound deadening. I've found that tyre noise and exterior noise just as loud in my GTi as our 2017 Leon. I thought the VW would perform a bit better being the more premium brand. Best car I've owned for noise suppression was my 2011 Seat Exeo. For those not familiar it was basically a rebadged Audi A4.
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I’ve just had a set of 4 Michelin PS5s fitted on my GTI performance and I’m really pleased with them. They are not too noisy and the grip is really good. When I got the car in December it had mid range tyres called Lauffen (never heard of them either) which I was going to keep but a pothole put pay to that so I changed all of them.
The PS5s are night and day in comparison. Wet grip and damp traction is great and they have a good rim protector for the alloys. On my old Leon FR I had PS4S (sport) and they were equally impressive, the lateral grip was superb but the car didn’t have the same power so hard to compare the power transfer directly.
I got a discount for 4 at kwik fit but the PS4S would have been a lot more expensive so I went for the PS5.
I’ve had Pirelli Pzero Neros before on a scooby and they were brilliant.
The only tyres I’ve really not liked were Good Year Asymetric 3 as I found the sidewall too soft and they seemed to roll too much.
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I'd like to hear from anybody running Conti SC 7's - they seem to come top of many tyre reviews for overall performance and yet not many are running them - only asking as they could be on my list for next time.
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I'd like to hear from anybody running Conti SC 7's - they seem to come top of many tyre reviews for overall performance and yet not many are running them - only asking as they could be on my list for next time.
I went with GY 6 on mine as there was a good dea at the timel. I considered the Conti 7, of the many posirive reviews I read, the biggest "real world" issue seemed to be quite a high wear rate compared to it's peers?
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I'd like to hear from anybody running Conti SC 7's - they seem to come top of many tyre reviews for overall performance and yet not many are running them - only asking as they could be on my list for next time.
Can’t say I am particularly impressed with them tbh! Loads raving about them they seem to be quick wearing and grip not what I expected either! I had Conti SC 6s on couple of previous type R I have had and they were superb but don’t like the 7s on other half’s golf!
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I've had 4 new CSC7's fitted this morning, coming from a set of GYAS6. Early days so I can't say if they are any better I'll come back here after a few hundred miles have passed.
The AS6 has more rim protection if that's your thing...
AS6 did two track days on top of the usual stuff and handled it ok, they did get hot and did take some punishment though.
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Laufenn is a sub brand of Hankook. I'd suggest they are lower end of the mid range. Having not experienced them I can't say for sure. Haven't really seen reviews of them either. Maybe one, can't remember what type of tyres were tested sporty or touring but I just remember they weren't particularly high on the list. Unfortunately for me I have bought my gti with some Chinese budgets called Wideway Sportsway on the front. Probably shoved on the car to pass an MOT. To be fair in the dry they don't seem too bad. Good turn in and good grip but this could just be the cars natural characteristic being a GTI making it feel this way compared to my old car on better tyres. I can't trust taking them to the edge. When budgets let go they really go generally speaking. In the wet you can definitely feel a fair reduction in grip. Aquaplaning hasn't been bad to be fair just not so easy to put the power down. When they wear down all four will be changed as one of the rears is getting close to it's limits.
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Another vote for the Michelin Pilot Sport 5's. Replaced the fronts (Bridgestones still had 3-4 mm, but I didn't like them) just over a year ago and very pleased with them. As said by others, relatively quiet, grippy and pothole resilient! Not even much wear yet, but I have only done about 7k miles over that period. Can't compete with your £350-for-4 quote (Goodyear Eagle F1's), as the two fronts cost me £226 inc VAT and balancing etc. May have been able to get them slightly cheaper elsewhere (?), but the service at my local tyre fitting centre is brilliant and I am happy to pay a bit more for that.
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I'm about 2000 miles in on a set of Goodyear F1A6's and I'm not happy with the noise from them.
current car and the last 2 cars have been on the same size tyres. I've been through F1A3, F1A5 and PS4.
These F1A6's are noticeably noisier.
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I'm about 2000 miles in on a set of Goodyear F1A6's and I'm not happy with the noise from them.
current car and the last 2 cars have been on the same size tyres. I've been through F1A3, F1A5 and PS4.
These F1A6's are noticeably noisier.
That's surprising as reviews I've seen have suggested that they are slightly quieter than PS4.
I'll be replacing my fronts (PS4) soon and I was considering the AS6.
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Thank you all for the feedback. I went with the PilotSport 5's in the end, influenced by the more positive reviews and the cashback offer. After the £50 back (I'm on 18's) a set of 4 was £373! A week in and it's already a noticeably nicer ride and much quieter.
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I am currently running PS5 on my mk8 (19s) have to say after running pilot sport 4S's and p zeros and hankook evo 3 on this and my previous 7.5 performance.
I would definitely go PS5 again not sure how the will wear, but after 1000 miles very impressed so far in all conditions.
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Have to replace mine now and deciding between keeping with the pZero’s or changing to the MPS4s’s.
Michelin has an offer on I believe. Had the MPS4S’s on my previous car and they were good. Not sure how that relates between cars though.
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Here's a pic of my Chinese budgets that came with the car when I bought it in February. Don't think they will last past the summer.
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So about 3k into the CSC7's and just swapped the tyres round:
Front : Rear
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Those tyres look like they're holding up well. Mine just look like they're getting chewed up. Especially the outer tread. When the time comes I'm definitely considering the sport contact 7 when I go to replace them. Pilot sport 5 and asymmetric 6 are likely to be the other options depending on what offers are around at the time.
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update,
i mentioned earlier in this thread I thought the Goodyear F1A6s were noisy
put my winter wheels and tyres back on today and the noise is gone.
Dunno if ive got a dodgy tyre or wonky camber but the F1A6s are noisier than my winter tyres!
I've ran winters the last 5 years and it usually been the other way about.
Roughly 10K miles on them and the fronts are almost done. No sign of the camber being out, nice even wear,
Will be looking at Michelin or Contis next - not that impressed with these goodyears
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update,
i mentioned earlier in this thread I thought the Goodyear F1A6s were noisy
put my winter wheels and tyres back on today and the noise is gone.
Dunno if ive got a dodgy tyre or wonky camber but the F1A6s are noisier than my winter tyres!
I've ran winters the last 5 years and it usually been the other way about.
Roughly 10K miles on them and the fronts are almost done. No sign of the camber being out, nice even wear,
Will be looking at Michelin or Contis next - not that impressed with these goodyears
I have PS4S on mine, can be a little noisy on some surfaces but generally comfortable, quiet and grippy. Put around 27k miles on a full set and have 3mm on the fronts and 5mm on the rears. Going to swap them around soon and get some more out of them!
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Currently on Goodyear as6 have them swapped around and rears near done. Probably 20k +. Happy enough with them but… Best offer i see online (Ireland) is AS6 @€152 PS5 @€171 and PS4s @€185. Opinions welcome.
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Years ago, a tyre fitter told me that swapping tyres around and putting ones with less thread on the rear is a false economy. As he said when braking at motorway speeds, you need best grip on the rear to stop the car fish tailing. Yes you can swap, as obviously on a front wheel drive car, the fronts with wear faster, but don’t underestimate the need for good grip on the rear, was his tip!
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And that he is right, totally different car with worn tyres on back.
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If it helps at all, I've just replaced my old Pirelli powergy tyres with another pair. Same tyre that came with the car and I'm happy with their performance.
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In general are Ps5 a good all rounder? About to order just need final push. PS4s are €15 a corner more expensive are they worth it ?
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I’ve had a set of PS5’s on for a couple of years, no issues to report.
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Upgraded from the P Zero to a set of 19” PS4S’ a couple of weeks ago. Costco offered a discount so it worked out to about £135 per tyre incl. fitting. Happy to report a noticeable improvement in comfort and road noise at low speeds. At higher speeds, they grip SO much better and steering feels more ‘connected’ when flying down a windy B-road. The car really does feel better with these tyres and I’m happy with the purchase. Only downside I’ve noticed so far is that tramlining is far more pronounced. Will report back once I’ve spent some more time with the new boots.
That being said, I doubt that these tyres offer better value for money than the PS5. Stock power doesn’t seem to be enough to push the tyre to its full potential (or maybe I’m just slow 😂). People with stage 2+ might see more benefits running this tyre.
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I've had PS5 tyres fitted for just over 6 months now and have seen a big difference compared with the original Pirelli's. The biggest difference being road noise is much less. Would get the same again.
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I've run ps4, 4s and now 5. 4s are now out in 225/40/18 so will so with them next time. They've more grip and are slightly stiffer than the 5 but the 5's are excellent, I'm not disappointed at all with them
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I've had PS5 tyres fitted for just over 6 months now and have seen a big difference compared with the original Pirelli's. The biggest difference being road noise is much less. Would get the same again.
Ditto when I swapped over from the original Bridgestone Potenza’s to the PS5’s. Before the swap it sounded like a Chinook was flying behind me.
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Had a set of Hankook Ventus S3 Evos on the 8 when it arrived, 18 months later they were heavily perished on 3 of the 4 tyres. Plenty of use, so no reason it should have happened. Put PS5s on there, since they were £20 a corner cheaper than the 4S, and it’s night and day difference. Loads more grip, better cold and wet performance, and about 2MPG better economy.
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Ordered Ps5 so will updated when fitted and road tested. Thanks for all the feedback.
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Had PS4S'S on my 7.5 performance to replace p zeros from new great improvment they were.
Now on my mk8 I am running PS5'S to replace the hancooks from new the PS5'S are the great tyres ( can't comment on wear as only done 4k so far on them.
I have covered 15k plus on all previous sets in all conditions and road types so feel I have a good opinion on each type.
The PS5'S were also cheaper and bonus of being a great looking tyre 🤣
Got them fitted on the Polo Blue GT also they have been on about 7k.
Anyone looking at replacing tyres PS5'S would be my reccomndation without hesitation.
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PS 4 all the way. Just got a great deal at Costco on 2 fitted, for £189, £60 less than all the local places.
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Just gone for another pair of Goodyear Eagle F1s for £210 fitted. Not the absolute best price but they are local and do a good job.