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Title: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: jh_97 on 28 January 2024, 12:17
Hi everyone, apologies for what is a very basic question that people on here do all the time. The only time I've ever taken a wheel off a car was when a colleague got a puncture whilst giving me a lift. We put the spare tyre on and I didn't have to deal with anything after that as it wasn't my car.

My question is, how easily can you achieve the required torque for the wheel bolts (something like 110/120 Nm according to the manual) with the wrench supplied in the tool kit? I want to take the wheels off to change the centre caps and give the whole wheel and brakes a good clean, but ofc want to ensure they're tightened correctly when put back on. Service is due in 900 miles, so I could just leave it until the day before that knowing that they'll be removed and put back on to the correct torque during the service, but would rather not wait if I don't have to! Equally I don't want to do 900 miles knowing they're not tightened correctly...
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: willni on 28 January 2024, 15:35
120nm really isn't that much but I've changed tyres a lot (while using a torque wrench), as a result I roughly know the correct pressure.

Unfortunately, I have to say you need to buy a torque wrench. It's not something to muck around with, as over tightening and under tightening can have severe consequences for both your own and others safety.
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: GKR47 on 28 January 2024, 15:43
Hi everyone, apologies for what is a very basic question that people on here do all the time. The only time I've ever taken a wheel off a car was when a colleague got a puncture whilst giving me a lift. We put the spare tyre on and I didn't have to deal with anything after that as it wasn't my car.

My question is, how easily can you achieve the required torque for the wheel bolts (something like 110/120 Nm according to the manual) with the wrench supplied in the tool kit? I want to take the wheels off to change the centre caps and give the whole wheel and brakes a good clean, but ofc want to ensure they're tightened correctly when put back on. Service is due in 900 miles, so I could just leave it until the day before that knowing that they'll be removed and put back on to the correct torque during the service, but would rather not wait if I don't have to! Equally I don't want to do 900 miles knowing they're not tightened correctly...

I dont think they will remove the wheels at service unless its necessary for a repair or fitting new brake components etc.
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: Rudedog on 28 January 2024, 16:34
Definitely treat yourself to one even if it's just for doing up wheel bolts - the number of times I found bolts done up so tight after visiting garages on relatives cars they would have had zero chance of undoing them at the roadside...... also nothing like the satisfaction of the double 'click' knowing it's spot on.

Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: jh_97 on 28 January 2024, 16:43
Thanks all. Yeah nearly bought a torque wrench yesterday, definitely the way to go to do it properly, another tool for the ever-growing collection  :nerd:
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: willni on 28 January 2024, 16:50
Something else to bear in mind when using a torque wrench, you do need to get it calibrated from time to time.

As my old teng one was considerably out (overtightening), swapped back to a draper I have and it's spot on.

You won't need to do it very often, but it's good practice.
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: jh_97 on 28 January 2024, 17:17
Any recommendations on which wrench to get from your experiences?
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: willni on 28 January 2024, 17:34
I'd get a Halfords advanced with the lifetime guarantee. £130 or £102 with trade discount if you know someone (it's pretty easy to get a trade card) if you're friendly with your local Halfords staff they'll probably give you one with limited questions.

https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/spanners-and-wrenches/halfords-advanced-torque-wrench-model-300-488729.html
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: madstaff on 28 January 2024, 17:59
And don't leave the torque wrench set to 100Nm when not in use, wind it back off to zero.
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: Rudedog on 28 January 2024, 18:04
I got lucky with a couple of eBay buys on two 1/2 " Norbar wrenches that I think came from an engineering company who were moving on to digital wrenches - covers me from 8Nm up to 200Nm.

I did like the look of the Parkside torque wrench sold in Lidl's which I think goes from 80-210 Nm.

Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: willni on 28 January 2024, 19:28
The fun bit starts when you have centre lock wheels, where Porsche need 600nm and the new BMW's want 930nm  :grin:

And don't leave the torque wrench set to 100Nm when not in use, wind it back off to zero.

I've never heard that before, learn something new everyday.
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: jh_97 on 29 January 2024, 11:28
Thanks again all, fair bit more than I was hoping to spend, but you do get what you pay for. Might see if I can borrow one from work to ensure it's a good one and calibrated correctly.

I did like the look of the Parkside torque wrench sold in Lidl's which I think goes from 80-210 Nm.

Always tempting! However I bought a set of Parkside TX keys from Lidl, but the one I needed was slightly oversized compared to the screw I needed to undo...
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: Adam T7 on 29 January 2024, 11:38
The fun bit starts when you have centre lock wheels, where Porsche need 600nm and the new BMW's want 930nm  :grin:

And don't leave the torque wrench set to 100Nm when not in use, wind it back off to zero.

I've never heard that before, learn something new everyday.

Mea Culpa
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: The_Doc on 29 January 2024, 11:46
I'd get a Halfords advanced with the lifetime guarantee. £130 or £102 with trade discount if you know someone (it's pretty easy to get a trade card) if you're friendly with your local Halfords staff they'll probably give you one with limited questions.

https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/spanners-and-wrenches/halfords-advanced-torque-wrench-model-300-488729.html


Anyone in Newcastle/Gateshead, I don’t mind using my trade card in person, and I’m regularly near the Team Valley one if you want to meet. You can check stock on the website too. Just pm me a link to what you want and I’ll give you the current price.
Title: Re: Wheel bolt torque with tool kit wrench.
Post by: madstaff on 29 January 2024, 12:17

And don't leave the torque wrench set to 100Nm when not in use, wind it back off to zero.

I've never heard that before, learn something new everyday.

Always been told to wind the pressure off the spring when stored, always done this.

https://www.norbar.com/News-Events/Blog/ArticleID/63/The-ten-things-you-should-know-about-your-torque-wrench