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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: evo1986 on 11 October 2023, 22:43

Title: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: evo1986 on 11 October 2023, 22:43
The panoramic sunroof (PR PS1) option will be removed from selected Golf Hatch models from Thursday 12 October 2023 for the following derivatives:

GTI
GTD
Black Edition
R-Line
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: fredgroves on 12 October 2023, 10:00
Chasing CO2 emmissions I'd guess...
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: davo245 on 13 October 2023, 22:40
Chasing CO2 emmissions I'd guess...


Cutting costs again more likely. Charge more and take more stuff away seems to be the vag way atm
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: The_Doc on 14 October 2023, 10:14
Cutting costs again more likely. Charge more and take more stuff away seems to be the vag way atm

Is everyone’s way, but the sunroof was always a cost option, so not like it makes the base car any less well equipped. I’d imagine it’s more likely emissions as suggested above, or supply chain issues. The reason the cars are getting more expensive is the plummeting value of the pound combined with increasing energy and material costs.
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: Carlosfandango on 15 October 2023, 08:36
Chasing CO2 emmissions I'd guess...


Cutting costs again more likely. Charge more and take more stuff away seems to be the vag way atm

Down to parts supply issues I suspect, and probably temporary.
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: willni on 15 October 2023, 17:59
I'd imagine it's more down to using up body shells prior to the facelift, as Car Magazine has spotted a facelift test gti with a sunroof already.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/volkswagen/golf-gti/
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: The_Doc on 15 October 2023, 18:40
It surprises me they’ve gone back to the radar in front of the intercooler approach rather than hiding it behind the badge like they started with the 7.5.
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: Carlosfandango on 16 October 2023, 09:39
I'd imagine it's more down to using up body shells prior to the facelift, as Car Magazine has spotted a facelift test gti with a sunroof already.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/volkswagen/golf-gti/

Yes, that may be so, but they’d have to test them with sunroofs, or they couldn’t fit them after the WLTP test, body shells are made on a just in time basis, so it’s not that.
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: fredgroves on 16 October 2023, 09:41
Suspect though that the sun roof assembly is third party made (as is most of the car) and there are minimum commitments to quantity and they don't want to renew the supply contract. That happens with run downs and it's very clearly a monitory option!
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: Carlosfandango on 16 October 2023, 09:48
Suspect though that the sun roof assembly is third party made (as is most of the car) and there are minimum commitments to quantity and they don't want to renew the supply contract. That happens with run downs and it's very clearly a monitory option!

That makes sense, but only if the facelift has a different roof?!
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: Carlosfandango on 16 October 2023, 09:51
It surprises me they’ve gone back to the radar in front of the intercooler approach rather than hiding it behind the badge like they started with the 7.5.

Is that what looks like a little camera just above it too?
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: fredgroves on 16 October 2023, 18:40
Suspect though that the sun roof assembly is third party made (as is most of the car) and there are minimum commitments to quantity and they don't want to renew the supply contract. That happens with run downs and it's very clearly a monitory option!

That makes sense, but only if the facelift has a different roof?!

I don't think it does - afaik its the same shell with some different plastics.

Maybe they have redesigned the swimming pool cover sunroof?
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: fredgroves on 16 October 2023, 18:41
It surprises me they’ve gone back to the radar in front of the intercooler approach rather than hiding it behind the badge like they started with the 7.5.

Is that what looks like a little camera just above it too?

I reckon thats just the testing rig.
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: Lenny on 16 October 2023, 23:04
It surprises me they’ve gone back to the radar in front of the intercooler approach rather than hiding it behind the badge like they started with the 7.5.

Is that what looks like a little camera just above it too?

I reckon thats just the testing rig.
The body panels are made in house in the stamping plant and the removal of the sunroof would save costs for VW just as it did by discontinuing the 2 door panels, stamping dies are expensive and time consuming to manufacture.
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: Adam T7 on 17 October 2023, 09:04
It surprises me they’ve gone back to the radar in front of the intercooler approach rather than hiding it behind the badge like they started with the 7.5.

Is that what looks like a little camera just above it too?

I reckon thats just the testing rig.
The body panels are made in house in the stamping plant and the removal of the sunroof would save costs for VW just as it did by discontinuing the 2 door panels, stamping dies are expensive and time consuming to manufacture.

I remember the Richard Hammond program ‘Big(?)’ a couple of years back when he walked through the Wolfsburg manufacturing plant - amazing what was actually built on the site.
Title: Re: Panoramic sunroof to be removed from selected Golf Hatch models
Post by: fredgroves on 17 October 2023, 11:44
 The body panels are made in house in the stamping plant and the removal of the sunroof would save costs for VW just as it did by discontinuing the 2 door panels, stamping dies are expensive and time consuming to manufacture.
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Yes that would make sense to me (I am from a manufacturing world and get this totally!)

But only if they also managed to ditch the supply chain for the actual swimming pool cover part.