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Title: Is this the latest software
Post by: valentino on 22 September 2023, 16:16

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Hi can someone tell me if this is the latest update for my 2021 Golf GTI?
Or should I be asking for another update from my dealer?
Thanks
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: fredgroves on 22 September 2023, 20:34
No
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: valentino on 23 September 2023, 10:53
Hi Fred, can you tell me the the most recent version please
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: SRGTD on 23 September 2023, 11:24
Hi Fred, can you tell me the the most recent version please

Reply #730 in the discussion thread at link below;

https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=287277.msg2661561#msg2661561
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: valentino on 23 September 2023, 15:15
Thank you
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: valentino on 23 September 2023, 15:18
Does it make any difference that hardware is different to mine?
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: fredgroves on 23 September 2023, 21:46
I don't think the hw matters any more. It used to but I think they have unified the code now.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: valentino on 24 September 2023, 07:18
Thank you for the info
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: redfred on 24 September 2023, 14:54
Collected my clubsport 30th June,software 1900.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: gavinl1967 on 25 September 2023, 21:31
My car was in for a software update with VW today, now at 1899.  I did question if this was the latest version and was told yes.  The system seems slightly snappier, and the headlight ’driving on the right’ issue has been  fixed.

All I need now is a new steering wheel 🤪😬🤣
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: fredgroves on 26 September 2023, 11:49
1941 is the latest version.... but on older cars (21 plates) you probably need a new steering wheel as well.

Possibly also a new MIB unit.... they've ordered me one!
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: gavinl1967 on 26 September 2023, 13:06
Mine is a 21 plate.

A new steering wheel has been ordered after the car was in with VW yesterday, although they have no idea when it will arrive. The last one they ordered took a month to arrive.

I’ll ask them to check the software again when the car goes in to have the steering wheel fitted.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: davo245 on 27 September 2023, 11:17
Mine is a 21 plate.

A new steering wheel has been ordered after the car was in with VW yesterday, although they have no idea when it will arrive. The last one they ordered took a month to arrive.

I’ll ask them to check the software again when the car goes in to have the steering wheel fitted.


What are the issues you were having as they diagnosed a new wheel?
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: gavinl1967 on 27 September 2023, 11:38
Mine is a 21 plate.

A new steering wheel has been ordered after the car was in with VW yesterday, although they have no idea when it will arrive. The last one they ordered took a month to arrive.

I’ll ask them to check the software again when the car goes in to have the steering wheel fitted.


What are the issues you were having as they diagnosed a new wheel?

Random bongs with Travel Assist and Emergency Assist warnings displayed. No impact on the drivability of the car, just annoying.  Did a 450 mile round trip to Chester a couple of weeks ago with no bongs.  Drove a mile to my local supermarket on weekend and it bonged twice, warning came up then disappeared - then again 🤔
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: BillSan on 27 September 2023, 16:36
Exactly the same as my 21 plate.  I had a period of 6 months without a single bong but the last 6 months it's been bong central in every journey.  I've got a service coming up so I'll be taking it up with the dealer.

Does having a new steering wheel actually solve the problem?
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Yorkshire gti on 28 September 2023, 09:27
1941 is the latest version.... but on older cars (21 plates) you probably need a new steering wheel as well.

Possibly also a new MIB unit.... they've ordered me one!
My 21 plate is booked in next month as it keeps rebooting this is a new issue and the bongs are back more persistent than ever. I’m on 1898. What will resolve these issues?
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Yorkshire gti on 28 September 2023, 09:33
Exactly the same as my 21 plate.  I had a period of 6 months without a single bong but the last 6 months it's been bong central in every journey.  I've got a service coming up so I'll be taking it up with the dealer.

Does having a new steering wheel actually solve the problem?
I had the same issue, 6 or so months of quiet and then back came the bongs with now unwarranted rebooting included.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: valentino on 10 October 2023, 10:53
Well after contacting the dealer in Nottingham, from where i bought my GTI, about a software update, and a replacement engine cover--- not very interested, didnt bother getting back to me. Decided  to ditch them with their non interest attitude
Contacted VW Mansfield, couldnt be more helpful. Engine cover ordered, arrived the next day, car booked in, as i also had the creaking, grinding noise which sounded as though it was coming from the drivers door area.
Collected to day, software update to 1941, engine cover fitted, grinding noise sorted--apparently it was a bellows which needed greasing, complementary health check, everything sorted!
Will be using Mansfield in future, nothing too much trouble, Nottingham lost my business for future purchases.
Excellent service VW Mansfield , thankyou
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: fredgroves on 10 October 2023, 11:33
Glad you got some action on this.

I will offer a bit of a dampener to it.... expect all of those problems (except the engine cover obvs!) to re-occur.

I haven't seen a permanent fix to any of this crap yet.

Possibly a 5F swap to H58? Maybe? VW have been trying to avoid doing this at all costs, because its very expensive and complicated - needing more controller swap outs than just the 5F.

As for the creaking, that will come back too. Grease wears off, starts creaking again.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Sniffer on 10 October 2023, 15:29
Well after contacting the dealer in Nottingham, from where i bought my GTI, about a software update, and a replacement engine cover--- not very interested, didnt bother getting back to me. Decided  to ditch them with their non interest attitude
Contacted VW Mansfield, couldnt be more helpful. Engine cover ordered, arrived the next day, car booked in, as i also had the creaking, grinding noise which sounded as though it was coming from the drivers door area.
Collected to day, software update to 1941, engine cover fitted, grinding noise sorted--apparently it was a bellows which needed greasing, complementary health check, everything sorted!
Will be using Mansfield in future, nothing too much trouble, Nottingham lost my business for future purchases.
Excellent service VW Mansfield , thankyou

I agree with Fred.

I had the creaking, grinding noise from the front nearside of my GTI, so the dealership applied the old miracle grease solution to try to sort it. It didn't work, although it did very briefly.  :sad:

However, I was back at the dealership a few months later to have both front boots and top mounts replaced. To be fair, the Service guys did say on my first visit that I would need the suspension parts replaced and rebuilt but they had to go through the approved flowchart process (try the grease fob off answer first ruse), otherwise VW would not have approved the warranty claim. The second repair seems to have done the trick, for now.  :grin:
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Yorkshire gti on 10 October 2023, 16:57
My top mount FNS was replaced at about 6 months due to creaking grinding. No further problems but bongs etc continue.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Rudedog on 10 October 2023, 20:33
Well you guys were lucky as my dealer wouldn't go past the grease stage even within the second year of warantee - now worn off and back to the creak on full left lock.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Carlosfandango on 11 October 2023, 21:15
I have the top mount creaking on the near side when turning full lock, but I also have Eibach Prokit springs fitted! What are my chances of a warranty top mount replacement in this scenario?? I’m guessing zero!?
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: davo245 on 12 October 2023, 07:19
Well you guys were lucky as my dealer wouldn't go past the grease stage even within the second year of warantee - now worn off and back to the creak on full left lock.

You need to change your dealer
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Rudedog on 12 October 2023, 07:59
Unfortunately all three local ones to me are under the same franchise group - I guess the response could be different between branches.


Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: davo245 on 14 October 2023, 08:36
Unfortunately all three local ones to me are under the same franchise group - I guess the response could be different between branches.

In that case I would complaining to vw uk
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Sniffer on 30 October 2023, 22:44
Well you guys were lucky as my dealer wouldn't go past the grease stage even within the second year of warantee - now worn off and back to the creak on full left lock.

I don't understand why he is being so difficult, it won't cost the dealership anything to fix your car properly.  It's a known fault and there is a TPI covering the issue, so VW will reimburse him for any work done.:angry:
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Dav3smith on 21 November 2023, 16:01
My car is just updating to 1941 it is doing it in 3 stages.

Fist time moving on from 1890 which I've been on since new March 2022.

Whilst I've had a few minor updates nothing this big it's an OTA offering which is the first one I've had to move to a new software version.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: JoeGTI on 21 November 2023, 17:33
I had the 1941 OTA update a few days ago too. I was on 1896 (I think), so the update wasn't that big, about 2.5 GB I think. I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever but I've never had much trouble with bongs thankfully. I was getting random occasional infotainment crashes, haven't had one of those (yet) since the update.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: davo245 on 28 November 2023, 15:14
I had the 1941 OTA update a few days ago too. I was on 1896 (I think), so the update wasn't that big, about 2.5 GB I think. I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever but I've never had much trouble with bongs thankfully. I was getting random occasional infotainment crashes, haven't had one of those (yet) since the update.

I had Ota update yesterday wasn't getting any issues now nfotainment  crashed twice today on way to work!
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Ubique on 28 November 2023, 16:33


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This is the latest OTA update I received
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Exonian on 28 November 2023, 20:47
Mine is running all the same numbers except the “device part number” is an older version (816G)
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: BillSan on 05 February 2024, 16:26
Are most of you now on version 1941?

I'm still on 1899 but as my bongs have disappeared I'm quite happy not to 'upgrade'.  Just seems like a long time since others got the OTA update and I wonder how they decide who gets and when.

Seems completely random.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: fredgroves on 05 February 2024, 19:51
Depends which bong you mean... Mine are definitely steering wheel wiring related...
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Exonian on 05 February 2024, 20:55
Are your privacy settings still allowing OTA updates through BillSan?
My Clubby took the change between 1894(?) and 1941 with no issues with bongs afterwards.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: valentino on 01 May 2024, 17:23
Just picked a new mk8 GTI up today and this is the software
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Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: GtiJames on 13 May 2024, 18:13
My ‘70 plate just out of warranty now requires another new steering wheel, the second in just over a year, they couldn’t replicate the fault last time it went in when under warranty but now can it seems.

After a whinge the offered to reduce the cost by 50% and offered free fitting and labour but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

The software issues have been there from the start and as I suspected they are now passing those costs on to us once the warranty has expired. Shoddy way to do business
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Exonian on 13 May 2024, 20:55
Surely the replaced wheel has its own warranty?
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: BillSan on 14 May 2024, 08:46
I'm still on 1899 and haven't seen an OTA update of any kind for a long time.

Are your privacy settings still allowing OTA updates through BillSan?
My Clubby took the change between 1894(?) and 1941 with no issues with bongs afterwards.

How can I check if my privacy settings still allow OTA updates?   I haven't changed anything (but, as we all know with VW software, that doesn't mean that no changes have taken place!)
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: SRGTD on 14 May 2024, 10:39
Surely the replaced wheel has its own warranty?

Under VW’s new car factory warranty, items replaced during the warranty period are only warrantable up to the expiry date of the warranty. From the warranty T&C’s on VW’s website;

’Any part which is replaced becomes the property of Volkswagen. Any replaced parts are covered for the unexpired period of the vehicle warranty.’

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-services/my-car/important-information/warranties-and-insurance/new-car-terms.html
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Exonian on 14 May 2024, 14:11
I'm still on 1899 and haven't seen an OTA update of any kind for a long time.


How can I check if my privacy settings still allow OTA updates?   I haven't changed anything (but, as we all know with VW software, that doesn't mean that no changes have taken place!)

The very quick way is to look at the online icons at the top right of the screen.
So long as you don’t have the little head wearing the ‘in disguise’ hat you should have sufficiently relaxed settings to allow VW to locate and send new software to the vehicle.

@SRGTD - typical VW!  :angry:
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: fredgroves on 14 May 2024, 15:46
Surely the replaced wheel has its own warranty?

Under VW’s new car factory warranty, items replaced during the warranty period are only warrantable up to the expiry date of the warranty. From the warranty T&C’s on VW’s website;

’Any part which is replaced becomes the property of Volkswagen. Any replaced parts are covered for the unexpired period of the vehicle warranty.’

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-services/my-car/important-information/warranties-and-insurance/new-car-terms.html

I'd ask citizens advice if that is actually UK legal tbh.... I don't think it is.

Consumer Rights Act 2015 I believe will effectively state that the repair was not completed....no matter what VW might say.
Title: Re: Is this the latest software
Post by: Carlosfandango on 28 May 2024, 19:57
Surely the replaced wheel has its own warranty?

Under VW’s new car factory warranty, items replaced during the warranty period are only warrantable up to the expiry date of the warranty. From the warranty T&C’s on VW’s website;

’Any part which is replaced becomes the property of Volkswagen. Any replaced parts are covered for the unexpired period of the vehicle warranty.’

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-services/my-car/important-information/warranties-and-insurance/new-car-terms.html

I'd ask citizens advice if that is actually UK legal tbh.... I don't think it is.

Consumer Rights Act 2015 I believe will effectively state that the repair was not completed....no matter what VW might say.

Yes indeed, I’d tend to agree with you here, it’s not a new fault, it’s the same fault that a new part did not fix, they can’t just say ‘we put a new part on it, so though sh*t’.