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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: dilligolf on 21 June 2023, 09:50

Title: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: dilligolf on 21 June 2023, 09:50
I couldn't find if this has been covered before.

I assume autohold isn't good if stationary for long periods (traffic lights etc), as autohold is no more than a break, as I see the brake lights in the rear view mirror. The engine is sending power to the wheels via the diff, the break is stopping the wheels from spinning and causing load/wear of the diff or clutch?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: Adam T7 on 21 June 2023, 11:06
If you have a DSG box my understanding is that it will disengage the clutches when stationary in Drive - I could be wrong though.
Have to admit, hardly ever use Autohold, just engage neutral and use the handbrake.
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: sjw on 21 June 2023, 12:10
I couldn't find if this has been covered before.

I assume autohold isn't good if stationary for long periods (traffic lights etc), as autohold is no more than a break, as I see the brake lights in the rear view mirror. The engine is sending power to the wheels via the diff, the break is stopping the wheels from spinning and causing load/wear of the diff or clutch?

Cheers!

I'm pretty sure that auto-hold is the standard behaviour? I would have thought it was just a case of whether you want your DSG-equipped car to creep or not. I doubt VW would put in a feature that unnecessarily wears the clutches, diff etc and make it accessible with a single button press.
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: Finglonga on 21 June 2023, 13:26
With me, Parking Brake is used for parking only, Auto Hold for everything else. Never has issues.
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: Rudedog on 21 June 2023, 13:43
Turned off as soon as I got my car - with a DSG I can't see why I would need it. Even on steep hills I go from neutral to drive then foot off brake and immediately onto gas. Never had any roll back. Light stays off unless it is accidentally pressed.
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: Vwjap on 21 June 2023, 15:41
Never switched it off, never used the handbrake, just pull up, engine off and jump out,
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: lessers on 21 June 2023, 18:21
Me too auto hold when driving and handbrake when parking..... I only had the car 2 mins and parked up and to my disbelief, I pressed the lock car on the fob and luckily parked on a relatively flat bit of road and it started moving forward, getting faster and faster, had to chase it down the road, open the door and jump in, before it rolled into a van. My Mrs would have killed me
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: dilligolf on 26 June 2023, 07:46
Thanks all.

Concensus seems to be it doesnt cause additional wear.

Will try to dig around to see if it disengages anything.

Title: Re: Autohold v Handbakeg
Post by: DSGboy on 03 August 2023, 11:13

After a massive fuss in USA donkey’s years ago re Runaway Audis, you can be certain that Autohold etc has been well thought through and well engineered by VAG  for its purpose.

I struggled to get used to Autohold in my R after a Mk6 GTI - was grasping a missing handbrake  lever for a while.  But in routine driving I find Autohold works so well I have almost come to take it for granted.

A bit like you do with ACC!
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbakeg
Post by: joe6 on 04 August 2023, 09:32

After a massive fuss in USA donkey’s years ago re Runaway Audis, you can be certain that Autohold etc has been well thought through and well engineered by VAG  for its purpose.

I struggled to get used to Autohold in my R after a Mk6 GTI - was grasping a missing handbrake  lever for a while.  But in routine driving I find Autohold works so well I have almost come to take it for granted.

A bit like you do with ACC!

We have both a mk6 and mk7. I miss the autohold on the mk6 but have never forgotten to use the handbrake when stationary yet! Sometimes wonder where to put the key (stop/start button) when getting into the mk7 :smiley:
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: DSGboy on 04 August 2023, 11:39
Miss my 2012 Mk6, I had from new. Carefully spcc’d too.   Wish Id kept it.   Part Ex’d it with 28k miles and nearly 7.  Next owner will have got to enjoy it tho.   Haha
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: SRGTD on 04 August 2023, 12:24
Miss my 2012 Mk6, I had from new. Carefully spcc’d too.   Wish Id kept it.   Part Ex’d it with 28k miles and nearly 7.  Next owner will have got to enjoy it tho.   Haha

I miss my mk6 GTD too - also carefully spec’d. Of the five VW’s I’ve owned, it was the best one; best build quality and the best, most comfy and supportive seats.
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: symonh2000 on 04 August 2023, 18:56
Whilst I find the electric handbrake and auto hold OK I would swap both of them for a traditional mechanical hand brake in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Autohold v Handbake
Post by: willni on 04 August 2023, 20:37
I really like the auto handbrake and auto hold, but do agree the seats really are lacking compared to previous generations, would near consider swapping them as of late. Always wanted a mk6 myself but when I was looking at them the prices were coming down hard.