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Title: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Peter_booker2003 on 12 June 2023, 19:02
Evening all,

I've had an order for nearly 2 years for a MK8 CS and in the meantime I have been enjoying a MK7.5 GTI TCR. It has been my daily and for the last 10k miles and it has been fantastic.

The CS is due to land later this week and I am hoping for some opinions on what others in a similar position would do. My quandery be keep the CS or the TCR?

To add some more context the TCR is on 38k miles and is a real nice spec. It drives well and is a superb package for every day use. The CS is a specced car and now retails for considerably more than my agreed deal. I have been offered a good amount over my list price already hence the quandary on how to proceed.

I have a work vehicle arriving later this week so this car will turn into a weekend car rather than a daily and with this my mileage will drop considerably. If this wasn't the case I would keep the TCR as I know the mileage would mean the CS would depreciate fairly rapidly over the next few years. It would likely be 2000-3000 a year rather than 12000 a year.

I guess my question is: is the fact that the CS is brand new, fully warrantied, full service plan and priced considerably under the RRP worth the jump from the TCR with the fact that I could sell the CS and make a few £1000.

Sorry for the long post, but I have been going forwards and backwards for days now.

Thanks
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: jv on 12 June 2023, 19:31
Make a few quid on your CS order, mileage will even out nicely on the TCR  :smiley:
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: JoeGTI on 12 June 2023, 19:37
I'd be inclined to keep the TCR and I say that as a pretty happy MK8 owner (with no bongs  :laugh:).

The 7.5 TCR is a really lovely car, probably a more special car than a new MK8 and if its going to be a weekend toy then it makes even less sense to get the new one.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Snoopy on 12 June 2023, 21:03
Keep the TCR and sell the CS if it was me in your shoes.
Too many unknowns on the stability of the software of the mk8 and a facelift due. So wouldn't surprise me if support disappears after out of warranty in a few years.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: SRGTD on 12 June 2023, 21:36
Keep the TCR and sell the CS if it was me in your shoes.
Too many unknowns on the stability of the software of the mk8 and a facelift due. So wouldn't surprise me if support disappears after out of warranty in a few years.

I’d do the same. IMHO the TCR is a great car and looks different enough to the standard mk7.5 GTI to make it a bit special. Ongoing software issues would deter me from getting a mk8.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Watts on 13 June 2023, 08:56
On a driving level I can't say as I've not driven a CS but I can't imagine there's much in it. Iirc, Exonian said as much in his review having owned both cars.

I'd keep the TCR, pocket some cash from the CS deal then treat the TCR to a few bits to keep the interest up. Then get yourself onto the All-in-One deal so you have another 2 years warranty (not as comprehensive as the original but still well worth having), 2 years servicing, 2 years roadside assistance and 2 MoTs for about £30 a month. No brainer imo.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: BillSan on 13 June 2023, 09:09
I'm a happy Mk8 owner but I'd keep the TCR and finance it for a few years by selling the Mk8 on.   The TCR is more special without a doubt.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: fredgroves on 13 June 2023, 10:49
Flip the CS - you can't order them this year... going to be worth a few quid brand new.

The TCR is ok, you say its just a weekend car and you are happy with it. The TCR is a great car tbh.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Exonian on 13 June 2023, 14:33
Having owned both I’ve been pondering the situation in order to find a way of playing devil’s advocate to add some balance.

And…


Nah, the scales are too far tipped in one direction, keep the TCR.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Hertsman on 13 June 2023, 14:49
Reluctantly let my lease TCR go at 3 yrs and 27000  miles, and replace with 128Ti lease, the TCR was just too deep in pockets for what would be a second car but in your scenario, with the TCR being a weekend car, with work car doing all the grunt miles, its a no brainer, the lift in experience, if any from the CS over the TCR will be marginal, the lift in money by flipping the CS would be substantial by not exchanging (how much you think you save)

The TCR was not exclusive, but it may as well have been as it was limited end of MK 7.5 run, had the full evolution of the MK 7 incorporated and at 295 BHP is as lively as anything, it was the standout send off for the MK 7x series and will say, with a stable and proven O/S with nice balance of touch/switch interaction.

Is the TCR Akrapovic? as that will add to down the road desirability, as much like the ED 35 they will command that little bit more than standard GTI and even R.

Was huge fan of my TCR and it was only sensible head that stopped me keeping it, as money in bank these days is a comfort blanket more have needed than ever to ride out these testing times,
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Peter_booker2003 on 13 June 2023, 21:44
Thanks all for your replies. Its only cemented what my head was telling me and its nice that others see it the same way as me.

One of the reasons why I love the TCR is due to its rarity and having it as a weekend car is certainly a pinch moment.

Yep, its got the Akra on it, and whilst it doesn't give any more noise, it definitely looks better.

Cheers for all the opinions, greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: davo245 on 14 June 2023, 07:17
I would also keep the TCR I have currently got a mk8 which I like a lot,  last December has replaced my mk7.5 GTI 2018 performance that I owned from new traded at
 75 k miles.
I do a lot of miles and if I had been in your situation with company car I would have kept the 7.5 for years and TCR even better.
Keep the TCR great residuals and great better built than the mk8 imo.


Would also so CS privately as will go for way more than the dealer is offering.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Hertsman on 14 June 2023, 09:50
Thanks all for your replies. Its only cemented what my head was telling me and its nice that others see it the same way as me.

One of the reasons why I love the TCR is due to its rarity and having it as a weekend car is certainly a pinch moment.

Yep, its got the Akra on it, and whilst it doesn't give any more noise, it definitely looks better.

Cheers for all the opinions, greatly appreciated.

Mine was the pure grey with the Akra, which matched the concept TCR release at Worthersee.

Never had chance to compare the Akra to the standard TCR set up in person, but videos of the standard set up demonstrated that note was decent and comparable to the Akra, which was very happy with and did give good overrun and occasional crack but on aesthetics alone they make the car, and as a plus, one wipe and they clean!

Got me missing my TCR now haha, thought had left that little bit of grieving behind :) am super happy with the 128Ti tho, so it has softened the blow,
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: oryxgolfr on 14 June 2023, 11:12
As currently a CS owner I would keep the TCR.

Whilst I love the CS I have been without it for a total of three weeks in the 10 weeks of ownership I've had.

New steering wheel (eventually) sorted the the Emergency/Travel assist bongs and the Matrix lights finally fixed, coupled with the sh!t Mk8 GTI experience I had before.  The shine has been taken off it (for the time being at least).

I think the Akra noise might bring it back into favour but not a great experience of the 8.



Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Peter_booker2003 on 21 June 2023, 21:59
Update for you all.

I collected the car on Monday and after driving it a short while have decided that I am indeed going to sell it.

Great car, and the ultra modern tech is lovely, but there is just something about how a TCR drives/makes me feel that is a cut above. Can't quite put my finger on it but if anyone is keen on a lovely Kings Red CS, hit up the guys at Ben Hodgson Cars as they will be advertising it shortly.

Cheers all again for your input. Now time to make the TCR even more special.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: SRGTD on 22 June 2023, 10:40
Update for you all.

I collected the car on Monday and after driving it a short while have decided that I am indeed going to sell it.

Great car, and the ultra modern tech is lovely, but there is just something about how a TCR drives/makes me feel that is a cut above. Can't quite put my finger on it but if anyone is keen on a lovely Kings Red CS, hit up the guys at Ben Hodgson Cars as they will be advertising it shortly.

Cheers all again for your input. Now time to make the TCR even more special.

I would have done the same in your position. Hope you enjoy your TCR for many years to come.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Exonian on 25 June 2023, 08:27
A sensible decision Peter_B
At least you got to drive your long awaited car albeit briefly
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Peter_booker2003 on 25 June 2023, 16:28
Yup, drove lovely and for me would have been a better daily over the TCR but I don't need a daily so TCR it was.

It left me on Thursday and I haven't missed it so definitely made the right decision.

The biggest surprise of the whole thing is how much it is listed for now...£50k.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: fredgroves on 25 June 2023, 22:27
Well you can't buy any performance golf at the moment... Not even put your name down for one in two years time...

So it's going to worth a lot as "delivery mileage only"
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Hertsman on 26 June 2023, 09:45
Strange how you feel on cars, you get invested and feel something is hard to let go, but once made the decision, other car is not in sight, and in something else appreciate, you soon move on, and in your case, the extra ££ will look nice in the account and your driving experience is still a fulfilling one, and looking at TCR prices, they are still holding strong.

It would have cost me £16k extra to keep the TCR as second car, that money now looks better in the bank.

I could imagine you getting over the initial newness of the MK 8, seeing a TCR and having huge doubts, so 100% best decision.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Peter_booker2003 on 26 June 2023, 15:40


I could imagine you getting over the initial newness of the MK 8, seeing a TCR and having huge doubts, so 100% best decision.

Exactly this. I made use of the 5 day free insurance thinking it would give me time to drive both cars back to back and decide from there. I wasn't sure that the CS drove any better so for me that was decision made, especially considering the money to be made from selling the CS.

In other news, an R600 intake landed today and a full alcantara wheel is also in the works from the guys over at Royal Steering wheels n :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Watts on 26 June 2023, 17:07
In other news, an R600 intake landed today and a full alcantara wheel is also in the works from the guys over at Royal Steering wheels n :laugh:

Mine could do with a few treats although a wash would be a good start! Are you changing the inlet pipe and elbow too?
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Ceefeesh on 26 June 2023, 20:23

In other news, an R600 intake landed today and a full alcantara wheel is also in the works from the guys over at Royal Steering wheels n :laugh:

I had a wheel recovered by Royal. It was a lovely job on a manual wheel with no paddles. Pity mine was a DSG. 😂. They did sort it quickly and the quality of their work was brilliant.
Title: Re: Mk8 CS vs TCR
Post by: Peter_booker2003 on 26 June 2023, 21:41
In other news, an R600 intake landed today and a full alcantara wheel is also in the works from the guys over at Royal Steering wheels n :laugh:

Mine could do with a few treats although a wash would be a good start! Are you changing the inlet pipe and elbow too?

Yeah, have bought the whole kit as I felt the pipe and the elbow made a good chunk of difference from what I had read. Will report back on how I get on when I fit it at the weekend.