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Title: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: davo245 on 09 December 2022, 13:10
Has anyone fitted the mk7.5 spare wheel and tool kit into mk8 GTI soes the foam tool and jack holder in mk7 come out easily and is boot cut out same in mk8 so it will fit or will wheel only fit and not jack and tools holder.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Ceefeesh on 09 December 2022, 20:00
I had a 7.5GTI which had an 18” spare and tools in it. I recently put a 16” space saver wheel in my 8 and had to shove it in and forcefully pull it out to remove it. The panel under the tailgate lock on the 7.5 had a curved cut out to allow the 18” wheel to be put in and removed. My 8 does not have this cut out. I was in danger of breaking the panel to get the 16 “ wheel out and I do not believe  it would be possible to get a wheel bigger than a 16” in without changing this panel. The humble mechanic on YouTube fitted his 7.5 R with a spare and had to change this panel. As it is I do not believe the wheel well on an 8 would take the polystyrene insert with the tools. If someone has managed to fit an 18” wheel and tools I too would like to know as I am keen to carry a spare in the wheel well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlRpgeJrVdU   The panel change is at 3:45 - 6:05.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Carlosfandango on 09 December 2022, 20:20
I had a 7.5GTI which had an 18” spare and tools in it. I recently put a 16” space saver wheel in my 8 and had to shove it in and forcefully pull it out to remove it. The panel under the tailgate lock on the 7.5 had a curved cut out to allow the 18” wheel to be put in and removed. My 8 does not have this cut out. I was in danger of breaking the panel to get the 16 “ wheel out and I do not believe  it would be possible to get a wheel bigger than a 16” in without changing this panel. The humble mechanic on YouTube fitted his 7.5 R with a spare and had to change this panel. As it is I do not believe the wheel well on an 8 would take the polystyrene insert with the tools. If someone has managed to fit an 18” wheel and tools I too would like to know as I am keen to carry a spare in the wheel well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlRpgeJrVdU   The panel change is at 3:45 - 6:05.

As long as you change the rear panel to the curved version (or already have the curved version fitted) a spare will definitely fit, as a spare wheel with tools and jack is a factory option on the mk8.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Sean G on 09 December 2022, 21:01
Some pics taken from the R Forum with spare wheels fitted in MK8 R’s
18” spare wheel saver
Shows with and without HK fitted
Also you can as suggested change the boot lock panel for one which has a cut out for the spare wheel



(https://i.postimg.cc/Bnx2J0hN/9-AACDF0-D-2-B29-419-A-B9-B5-B047-EBE7-C594.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPgPS0WF)

(https://i.postimg.cc/DZDSqjj8/9-EEABCD0-A4-D3-4-B04-81-BE-7-BB8-E435-F507.png) (https://postimg.cc/TLV2x9X6)



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Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Ceefeesh on 10 December 2022, 08:24
Does anyone know the part number? When I bought my car the salesman was to find out part numbers and costs to retrofit a spare wheel and tools. Despite a couple of queries from me never got back with the answers.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Carlosfandango on 10 December 2022, 09:33
Does anyone know the part number? When I bought my car the salesman was to find out part numbers and costs to retrofit a spare wheel and tools. Despite a couple of queries from me never got back with the answers.

I asked at the parts department at my local VW dealership if they could get me a spare and jack etc, he said I’d have to use a reg number from a car that had the spare wheel from factory as the weight effects the emission numbers and the VW system won’t allow them to order using my reg or VIN! 🙄🤷🏼
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Sean G on 10 December 2022, 10:08
Part number Looks to be 5H6863459B
Google search will bring it up
One here on eBay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363856352786?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338723872&toolid=20006&customid=tblGdsgTAAAAZAKWwvAh50w-jbsgAAAAAA
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Sean G on 10 December 2022, 10:12
In regards to the spare wheel there are always some for same on eBay/gumtree etc
Plenty of breakers yards will have unused spare wheels from the MK7/7.5
Be aware space saver won’t fit over your front brakes so you need to switch the rear alloy on the car to the front if you needed to and put the space saver on the rear
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: davo245 on 12 December 2022, 14:15
Swopped the wheel over fits mk8 perfect same floor pan.
VW wanted £535 for a spare wheel and jack etc!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Ceefeesh on 12 December 2022, 15:04
Swopped the wheel over fits mk8 perfect same floor pan.
VW wanted £535 for a spare wheel and jack etc!!  :grin:

Can you post a picture, please. Does your car have the curved recess at the tailgate panel? Thanks.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: davo245 on 19 December 2022, 09:38
Swopped the wheel over fits mk8 perfect same floor pan.
VW wanted £535 for a spare wheel and jack etc!!  :grin:

Can you post a picture, please. Does your car have the curved recess at the tailgate panel? Thanks.

Will post one up when I get chance no doesn't have curved access in panel but floor pan and cutout is same all fits perfectly as mk7.5.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Ceefeesh on 12 January 2023, 16:17
Thank you to willni who tried his 7.5 space saver 125 x 70 x 18 and tools in the wheel well of my Mk 8 to confirm they fitted. I have now got a wheel and tools in my car. I bought a new wheel for £75 from eBay and the tools for £70. I also bought the large centre plastic wheel retainer (screw) for £20. I can also confirm my rear panel at the boot lock did not need to be changed to accommodate the 18” wheel. My car had the curved panel as standard.  I now have a spare panel if anyone needs one, although I don’t know why you would. 😂. All in £165 which I think is money well spent if you ever need to use it. Another one of the cost savings employed by VW on the Mk 8.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsKW96yp/636-E5-F19-0-AB1-413-A-8304-DCA9-FD82155-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyZLMWLk)

Her it is the wrong way round. The centre retaining screw doesn’t catch.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hndm21Yq/3-D841017-47-DF-49-BE-8-A53-44-D9-FA2732-FF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6s2S8nd)
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: ash_rage on 12 January 2023, 17:54
Thank you to willni who tried his 7.5 space saver 125 x 70 x 18 and tools in the wheel well of my Mk 8 to confirm they fitted. I have now got a wheel and tools in my car. I bought a new wheel for £75 from eBay and the tools for £70. I also bought the large centre plastic wheel retainer (screw) for £20. I can also confirm my rear panel at the boot lock did not need to be changed to accommodate the 18” wheel. My car had the curved panel as standard.  I now have a spare panel if anyone needs one, although I don’t know why you would. 😂. All in £165 which I think is money well spent if you ever need to use it. Another one of the cost savings employed by VW on the Mk 8.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsKW96yp/636-E5-F19-0-AB1-413-A-8304-DCA9-FD82155-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyZLMWLk)

Her it is the wrong way round. The centre retaining screw doesn’t catch.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hndm21Yq/3-D841017-47-DF-49-BE-8-A53-44-D9-FA2732-FF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6s2S8nd)

What do VW charge for it new?
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Ceefeesh on 12 January 2023, 18:38
I have never spoken to a dealer about price. Previous posts here have quoted £400 to £500.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: ash_rage on 12 January 2023, 18:48
I have never spoken to a dealer about price. Previous posts here have quoted £400 to £500.

What!!! That’s a joke
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Ceefeesh on 12 January 2023, 20:55
There you go.
Swopped the wheel over fits mk8 perfect same floor pan.
VW wanted £535 for a spare wheel and jack etc!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: willni on 12 January 2023, 21:39
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hndm21Yq/3-D841017-47-DF-49-BE-8-A53-44-D9-FA2732-FF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6s2S8nd)

£75 for the finest LingLong tyre around :whistle:
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Rudedog on 12 January 2023, 22:06
That is one of the odd things I've always found in VWs that their space savers are nearly always some weird Chinese tyre company... apparently there are some Conti ones knocking around..  so tempted to find one but knowing my luck it will just mean I get a puncture.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Ceefeesh on 12 January 2023, 22:16

£75 for the finest LingLong tyre around :whistle:

New LingLong and a new wheel. 🤗 At least it’s not a DingDong! You can find wheels with Contis on them but you’ll pay a lot more and it won’t be a new wheel. I haven’t seen many articles discussing the handling characteristics of space savers.They are limited to 50 mph for a reason.  Emergencies only! :grin:
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Rudedog on 13 January 2023, 07:53
Right I'm searching YT... I can't believe someone somewhere hasn't fitted four space-savers to their car and ragged it!
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: willni on 13 January 2023, 16:16

£75 for the finest LingLong tyre around :whistle:

New LingLong and a new wheel. 🤗 At least it’s not a DingDong! You can find wheels with Contis on them but you’ll pay a lot more and it won’t be a new wheel. I haven’t seen many articles discussing the handling characteristics of space savers.They are limited to 50 mph for a reason.  Emergencies only! :grin:

Exactly they don't need to be a Conti you may never use! Just funny.

Right I'm searching YT... I can't believe someone somewhere hasn't fitted four space-savers to their car and ragged it!

Wouldn't say they were space savers but a fiesta (1999 1 litre) I used to drive had wheels that weren't much bigger and it near went over a hedge on dry summers day...a few times :whistle:
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Adam T7 on 13 January 2023, 16:35
I swapped out a space saver to a full size alloy on a Discovery a few years back - literally couldn’t give the space saver away and had to take it to the local tip for disposal - they are not the most popular car related items in the world.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: davo245 on 18 January 2023, 21:38
Thank you to willni who tried his 7.5 space saver 125 x 70 x 18 and tools in the wheel well of my Mk 8 to confirm they fitted. I have now got a wheel and tools in my car. I bought a new wheel for £75 from eBay and the tools for £70. I also bought the large centre plastic wheel retainer (screw) for £20. I can also confirm my rear panel at the boot lock did not need to be changed to accommodate the 18” wheel. My car had the curved panel as standard.  I now have a spare panel if anyone needs one, although I don’t know why you would. 😂. All in £165 which I think is money well spent if you ever need to use it. Another one of the cost savings employed by VW on the Mk 8.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsKW96yp/636-E5-F19-0-AB1-413-A-8304-DCA9-FD82155-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyZLMWLk)

Her it is the wrong way round. The centre retaining screw doesn’t catch.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hndm21Yq/3-D841017-47-DF-49-BE-8-A53-44-D9-FA2732-FF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6s2S8nd)

What do VW charge for it new?

485 I was quoted told them I didn't want  set of alloys just one space saver!
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Zan on 18 January 2023, 22:52
I was quoted pretty much the same amount and total rip off imo :whistle:
I ended up buying off ebay for less than £100....not new but you can tell it is unused and included the tools/retainer screw.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Ceefeesh on 19 January 2023, 11:19
A good purchase. That was a keen price. They are a personal choice. I once gave a space saver wheel away (for a Honda Civic) as nobody wanted it and I had thought it was going to the local tip. The recipient made a small donation to a charity in lieu of payment as the best way for me to get some good from it. As I said before, the first time you have to use the space saver, it  pays for itself.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: Zan on 19 January 2023, 19:18
You are right as I needed to use one just after lockdown hit as I had a unrepairable puncture and it was 3 days before they could get the new tyre in. As my workplace was staying open I opted to bung the space saver on until they got the new tyre in and I will always make sure I have one in what ever car I have one way or another.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI spare wheel and tools into mk8?
Post by: willni on 19 January 2023, 20:07
As good as a spare wheel is on its own, when going to the trouble of getting one I think you should also invest in a good high vis jacket ideally waterproof! and a torch that can stand by itself.

Not all flat tyres will happen on a dry afternoon, and at night a high vis can makes a massive difference between being seen or being hit.