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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sootchucker on 20 November 2022, 11:30
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Well that sad day is nearly here. As my new Tiguan will be collected on Friday next week, I put the GTI up for Sale on Motorway, and it sold straight away. My reserve was £21k and it sold for £23.3k. Based on the price I paid for the car nearly 5 years ago, that means it’s retained an incredible 76% of its original purchase price in 5 years on a brand new car !! That’s insane.
So the company that’s purchased the GTI will be collecting it next Thursday 24th. It will be a very sad day as it’s been a brilliant car and was my 4th Golf on the trot and my 3rd MK7/7.5 model. With my 60th birthday looming next year, just thought it was time for a change whilst I can still afford it. I’ll still be popping in as I like this forum (and let’s be honest the MQB Tiguan’s still share a lot with the Golf platform), and will post up some photos when it arrive.
Off to give the GTI one more clean. :(
A parting shot (taken a few days after collection)
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You are one year older than me and someone would have to prise my GTI keys from my cold, grey, dead fingers before I parted with it, it will be my first and last as I’ve just retired and do so few miles now.
Good luck with the Tiguan, my BIL has had one for over 3 years and it’s been flawless👍
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Someone will be very fortunate when they buy your GTI Sootchucker, it’s got to be one of the most well looked after examples.
No harm in fancying a change and the Tiguan is a handsome car with lots of familiarity as well as the differences.
We look forward to hearing all about your new car in due course.
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If it had been a performance pack I would have jumped on this. In the market for a mint 7.5 PP or TCR.
Hope you enjoy your new Tiguan Sootchucker.
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Hope you enjoy the Tig as much as the GTI :smiley:
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Sad times as your gti was what made me buy mine when I saw it on DetailingWorld, but luckily the Tiguans are a fantastic car in a different way and you won’t be disappointed.
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Well that sad day is nearly here. As my new Tiguan will be collected on Friday next week, I put the GTI up for Sale on Motorway, and it sold straight away. My reserve was £21k and it sold for £23.3k. Based on the price I paid for the car nearly 5 years ago, that means it’s retained an incredible 76% of its original purchase price in 5 years on a brand new car !! That’s insane.
So the company that’s purchased the GTI will be collecting it next Thursday 24th. It will be a very sad day as it’s been a brilliant car and was my 4th Golf on the trot and my 3rd MK7/7.5 model. With my 60th birthday looming next year, just thought it was time for a change whilst I can still afford it. I’ll still be popping in as I like this forum (and let’s be honest the MQB Tiguan’s still share a lot with the Golf platform), and will post up some photos when it arrive.
Off to give the GTI one more clean. :(
A parting shot (taken a few days after collection)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/981/40101319240_5619fa878f_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/246BK6S)
How many miles on it? Issac is the BEAT colour by far on these but I am biased 😉
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23.5k miles (oh and BTW it's Indium Grey not Issacs Blue)
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Well that sad day is nearly here. As my new Tiguan will be collected on Friday next week, I put the GTI up for Sale on Motorway, and it sold straight away. My reserve was £21k and it sold for £23.3k. Based on the price I paid for the car nearly 5 years ago, that means it’s retained an incredible 76% of its original purchase price in 5 years on a brand new car !! That’s insane.
So the company that’s purchased the GTI will be collecting it next Thursday 24th. It will be a very sad day as it’s been a brilliant car and was my 4th Golf on the trot and my 3rd MK7/7.5 model. With my 60th birthday looming next year, just thought it was time for a change whilst I can still afford it. I’ll still be popping in as I like this forum (and let’s be honest the MQB Tiguan’s still share a lot with the Golf platform), and will post up some photos when it arrive.
Off to give the GTI one more clean. :(
A parting shot (taken a few days after collection)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/981/40101319240_5619fa878f_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/246BK6S)
Damn I need to clean my car :grin:
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Hope you enjoy it mate.
My 60th is looming too this coming April and only health reasons will see me leaving the marque. The Mrs is now complaining
about getting in and out of the GTI so I pointed out the bus stop. :grin:
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Thanks all. TBH, I'm not getting out of the GTI for any other reasons that
a) I've been in a MK7(7.5) Golf now for nearly 10 years (since 2013) and just fancy a change, but keeping the best bits from the Golf's (i.e. ergonomics, controls, infotainment etc), and
b)(and this is a big one), the price I've got though Motorway for my 4.5-year-old GTI means I've only lost just over 13% of my actual purchase price in all that time (which is insane and a result of the crazy times we are living in).
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Here's the 1st Photo sent to me by the dealer on the new Tiguan 8)
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Love that colour sootchucker!
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Looks very smart!
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Nice car, but I'm not impressed with the wrap - you're almost 60 :grin:
Here's the 1st Photo sent to me by the dealer on the new Tiguan 8)
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Neat
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Really nice, whats the name of that colour??
Are you removing the goodies you retrofitted to your GTI??
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It’s Nightshade Blue. Most of the stuff I fitted to the GTi is either already off, or coming off tomorrow. The only thing I’m debating leaving are the under seat drawers, as whilst I’d love to remove them and sell the parts on, it was a pain to fit them and I don’t know if I’ll have the time before it’s collected on Thursday.
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Whenever I see a golf gti, I always take a look at the driver. The last 4 or 5 mk7s I’ve seen were driven by middle aged men.
Saw a 7.5 this morning. Guy driving must’ve been 70+.
Getting to 60 is not a reason to sell, it’s a reason to buy!
But I can understand a change is nice now and then.
Lovely car for some lucky buyer
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Whenever I see a golf gti, I always take a look at the driver. The last 4 or 5 mk7s I’ve seen were driven by middle aged men.
Saw a 7.5 this morning. Guy driving must’ve been 70+.
Getting to 60 is not a reason to sell, it’s a reason to buy!
But I can understand a change is nice now and then.
Lovely car for some lucky buyer
I do the same! Most I see are middle-aged women who look like they've just bought it because it was an upmarket Golf. I feel sorry for those cars as I suspect they are never pushed anywhere near their potential.
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To be fair, you could level that criticism at me too, as i never really thrashed the GTI. I should say that the new Tiguan has got massive boots to fill though.
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To be fair, you could level that criticism at me too, as i never really thrashed the GTI. I should say that the new Tiguan has got massive boots to fill though.
Me neither, usually sedately driven but I do give it some beans occasionally😂
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Whenever I see a golf gti, I always take a look at the driver. The last 4 or 5 mk7s I’ve seen were driven by middle aged men.
Saw a 7.5 this morning. Guy driving must’ve been 70+.
Getting to 60 is not a reason to sell, it’s a reason to buy!
But I can understand a change is nice now and then.
Lovely car for some lucky buyer
Might have been me in the 7.5 :smiley:. I don't thrash it but nice to have the performance every once in a while on A and B roads to make good progress.
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To be fair, you could level that criticism at me too, as i never really thrashed the GTI. I should say that the new Tiguan has got massive boots to fill though.
True, but you're enthusiast enough to be on a forum for your car so you get a pass
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Whenever I see a golf gti, I always take a look at the driver. The last 4 or 5 mk7s I’ve seen were driven by middle aged men.
Saw a 7.5 this morning. Guy driving must’ve been 70+.
Getting to 60 is not a reason to sell, it’s a reason to buy!
But I can understand a change is nice now and then.
Lovely car for some lucky buyer
I bought my mk 7 in July just after my 75th birthday. Wish I'd done it sooner
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Haha, nice to hear from all the forum oldies!
At least a golf gti is a golf- a car perfectly suited for use as an everyday hack.
I bet most Porsches and Lamborghinis haven’t been used to anywhere near their potential
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That new Tig does look nice. Enjoy!
On the age comments, I bought my first GTI at age 62. Mrs P and I are both now 71 and our 4th GTI is going nowhere other than under my heavy right foot when the opportunity presents.
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I see a guy often in an absolute mint Reflex Silver MK4 R32.. He is definately into his 80's. I keep an eye out for the For Sale
notice in the window. :laugh:
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Whenever I see a golf gti, I always take a look at the driver. The last 4 or 5 mk7s I’ve seen were driven by middle aged men.
My wife is 45, hot and she drives a GTi :nerd:
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Don't post picture of your car, post one of your wife then
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Sniff.....she's gone :(
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That must’ve been painful watching it being driven away.
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Well after an email exchange with Mr Sootchucker about the process I decided to sell mine through Motorway. Submittted the details on Tuesday, in the auction and sold by 3pm on Wednesday, picked up Friday lunch time. Easiest sale I've ever had
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Glad to have helped. Why would anyone use WBAC when Motorway is so easy. I would deffo use them again.
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What’s going to replace your Golf darrent?
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Glad to have helped. Why would anyone use WBAC when Motorway is so easy. I would deffo use them again.
The car went for £2k more than WBAC offered as well.
Exonian no plans for anything, the story behind the sale is a proper sad story unfortunately. :sad:
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I’m really sorry to hear that darrent :sad:
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Sharing the sentiment of a sad day as the GTI TCR left on a flatback :cry:
Offloaded first was a 128Ti
First drive impressions of the 128Ti are that the cabin experience is high, love the seats and the leg support extensions and as mentioned above, the media interaction is excellent, it's a nice place to sit, first drive impressions are that it feels like a car with 8 miles on it, was so used to the lightness and being able to flip the TCR around to where was pointing it, that there is what imagine an initial stiffness to the 128Ti and having been in MK 7 Golfs for 9 years, having to get used to the driving position, feel less over the front wheels, but ride is very smooth, (between normal and comfort on TCR would say) and delivery is seamless, but can think tell the difference between DSG and the 8 speed auto, as DSG feels like there are gears changing, this feels more linear, as if climbing through gears if that's a good description?
but going to be really hard to make any comparison till reach that 1000-mile mark, but in the reeled back acceleration that have done out of a junction, there is plenty of pull.
It's not quite the looker the GTI TCR was, but quite like it in its signature guise, you can at least tell its different to other 1 series out there, and really like the signature wheels and brake discs and calipers, so it's not quite the feeling of walking up to the TCR, but feel good about it, and look forward to driving it, which is a relief if honest
Will come back once been really able to drive it and give thoughts on how stacks up as BMW stab at a GTI.
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Let us know if you manage to get the seat position comfortable.... because I certainly couldn't!
Its a great car apart from that...
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@Hertsman; it looks great :cool:, and a nice early Christmas present. Looking forward to hearing what life’s like with a 128Ti.
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Commiserations (TCR) and congratulations (128ti) Hertsman.
Never mind all that other fluff - how’s the heated steering wheel? :laugh:
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Commiserations (TCR) and congratulations (128ti) Hertsman.
Never mind all that other fluff - how’s the heated steering wheel? :laugh:
Guy I go shooting with has a heated steering wheel in his Range Rover, reckons it’s the best thing since sliced bread
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Let us know if you manage to get the seat position comfortable.... because I certainly couldn't!
Its a great car apart from that...
Now completed 500 miles can understand why you would say that, as it took quite a few adjustments to get seat to position that really felt comfortable in and also feel the additional adjustments make you sit in a more correct, upright fashion with real and prominent lumbar support, that creates some initial discomfort of its own.
The GTI seats have up and down and barely noticeable manual lumbar, the 128Ti seats have up and down, front tilt (up and down) an extension for under leg, and electric lumbar and bolster controls, that when at max are quite prominent and can extend right up the back to preference.
So, feel its amount of adjustment initially works against it, as it does force you to sit in a more supported way, via the lumbar, tilt, extender, and your body has to adjust to that change also, hence the immediate discomfort and fidgeting about, as now just jump in, and sit comfortably no matter the journey.
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@Hertsman; it looks great :cool:, and a nice early Christmas present. Looking forward to hearing what life’s like with a 128Ti.
The 128Ti overall is such a different car to drive than MK 7 x which been in for 9 years, so its taken a little while to get used to, but at 500 miles now starting to feel at one with car and its nuances, and still about 500 miles away from testing performance, but its starting to loosen in the hand and starting to show me its performance attributes.
One of aspects had to get past is that it felt a little too grown up and premium, it was all too nice in luster in the cabin, but that's dissipating as get used to it, and it becomes the normal.
Do love the Wireless Car Play and the literal plethora of shortcuts and standard buttons for every function, have assigned a few in menu options to the 1-8 buttons, and the screen, with selectable widgets has iPad responsiveness, but tend to use the wheel, which again is highly intuitive.
Have had DCC on all three of my MK 7 Golfs, so was little concerned to the 128Ti passive set up, but its been a huge surprise, really smooth, especially on good roads, easily between Normal and Comfort on GTI as a comparison, though did notice it does 'jiggle' a little bit on lesser surfaces, which GTI did in Sport to maybe a slightly lesser extent.
Still hard to do a proper assessment as still nannying the first 1000 miles, but its shown me enough to be hopeful that the pleasant running around in comfort at present will transform at the press to Sport into the decent performance drive that enjoyed in the R and the TCR.
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Commiserations (TCR) and congratulations (128ti) Hertsman.
Never mind all that other fluff - how’s the heated steering wheel? :laugh:
HaHa, for £150 an absolute bargain, very pleasant indeed on a cold morning, though downside is one cold morning the wife took it opposed to hers, citing the steering wheel :grin:
128Ti is such a change from the Golf, the driving position, you feel less over the front wheels, the interior, that its taken sometime to get to that zone where you feel completely at one with the car, but on cusp of that now, just starting to dart it about within the limits of not pushing the revs till 1000 miles, and with the original stiffness/newness declining the 128Ti is starting to feel increasingly agile as my understanding to its attributes increase.
So jury is still out, but can say already that its a well built, premium feel car, that's a really nice car to drive and sit in on comfort setting for the normal day to day drive, and quite hopeful it will show decent performance attributes when can truly stretch it out
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I nearly cancelled my new Tiguan a few times when the delivery times went ridiculous, and looked at a few BMW's. One was an X3 and one a 3 series Tourer.
However they both fell through when I wanted to order the Premium pack (I think that's what it was called). It was a £3k plus option on both cars but included driving assistant pro (Adaptive cruise control etc), Harmon Kardon, Wireless Phone Charging, keyless entry, steering wheel heating (and one or two others that I can't remember). They only told me just as I was about to pay a deposit for the 3 series, that due to supply issues, on the Premium pack, the Driving assistance pro, Harmon Kardon, Wireless Phone Charging and Keyless had been removed from the packs, leaving just 3 or 4 relatively low cost options. However they only knocked £800 off the option pack and still wanted me to pay £2300 for it !! I told them to shove it, and just continued to wait for the Tiggy.
However one thing I will say, is that BMW could definitely show VW a thing or two about designing an interior and the integration of all that tech into the car. Compared to my then only 3 year old GTI, it made it feel like it was from a different decade ! In fairness I should add that our last 11 VW's have all been absolutely bullet proof and none of them needed a single warranty visit to the dealer (let's hop ethe Tiggy continues that trend), so I've no knowledge if BMW's are really reliable or not, but god they produce some really nice cars.
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Great to see both yourself and Mrs Hertsman have embraced the modern motoring nirvana that is the heated steering wheel! :grin: My younger self would pour derision on that comment but I’m not young anymore :whistle:
I think the feeling of sitting further behind the front axle is partly an illusion as both BMW and Audi have positioned their windscreens slightly further back towards the cab area in their 1 series and A3 respectively to keep that traditional and distinctive long bonnet styling carried over from their barge sized models. Interior space is similar in all those cars and the boot of the 1’er took the genuine VW mk7 Golf boot liner almost millimetre perfectly when I had mine.
Keep the updates coming, they’re great reading :afro:
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I nearly cancelled my new Tiguan a few times when the delivery times went ridiculous, and looked at a few BMW's. One was an X3 and one a 3 series Tourer.
However they both fell through when I wanted to order the Premium pack (I think that's what it was called). It was a £3k plus option on both cars but included driving assistant pro (Adaptive cruise control etc), Harmon Kardon, Wireless Phone Charging, keyless entry, steering wheel heating (and one or two others that I can't remember). They only told me just as I was about to pay a deposit for the 3 series, that due to supply issues, on the Premium pack, the Driving assistance pro, Harmon Kardon, Wireless Phone Charging and Keyless had been removed from the packs, leaving just 3 or 4 relatively low cost options. However they only knocked £800 off the option pack and still wanted me to pay £2300 for it !! I told them to shove it, and just continued to wait for the Tiggy.
However one thing I will say, is that BMW could definitely show VW a thing or two about designing an interior and the integration of all that tech into the car. Compared to my then only 3 year old GTI, it made it feel like it was from a different decade ! In fairness I should add that our last 11 VW's have all been absolutely bullet proof and none of them needed a single warranty visit to the dealer (let's hop ethe Tiggy continues that trend), so I've no knowledge if BMW's are really reliable or not, but god they produce some really nice cars.
Have been on the Baby BMW forum since ordered and there has been some horror stories of 18 month waits, tech being removed or just finding it was deleted when received the car, even car personally received had the drivers cubby removed, and the ambient lighting strips in read replaced with LED lights in the handle, everything else was as ordered.
BMW really suffered with chip supply as it was mainly the tech that you quoted that was dropped across the range from what seen, however, the last 2 months have seen a flurry of cars arrive on quoted times, and with much of the tech you quoted now available, so maybe a sign some normality is returning
Personally had an Oct delivery moved to Dec delivery, that was met, and as car pretty much as specced, got away lightly
All three of my MK 7 Golfs, GTD, R and GTI had zero garage visits outside of servicing in 9 years, so like you, cannot fault the quality of any of them cars.
The interior of this 1 series is definitely a level above the MK 7 and media integration and manipulation is different class, and it feels well bolted together, everything seems fitted well and with no squeaks or anything like that,
Do miss the DSG lever, still getting used to the gear selector and still trying to see how feel about the gear changes as it does feel different, more blends into next gear than feel the change into, but until can push the revs its just super smooth seamless changes at revs doing.
First BMW after being an Audi VW man for last 20 years, so at 500 miles a lot of assessment to come.
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Great to see both yourself and Mrs Hertsman have embraced the modern motoring nirvana that is the heated steering wheel! :grin: My younger self would pour derision on that comment but I’m not young anymore :whistle:
I think the feeling of sitting further behind the front axle is partly an illusion as both BMW and Audi have positioned their windscreens slightly further back towards the cab area in their 1 series and A3 respectively to keep that traditional and distinctive long bonnet styling carried over from their barge sized models. Interior space is similar in all those cars and the boot of the 1’er took the genuine VW mk7 Golf boot liner almost millimetre perfectly when I had mine.
Keep the updates coming, they’re great reading :afro:
She warmed to it straight away, especially the wheel (see what did there :grin:) think she appreciates the premium aspects more than me, interior wise, its more her car, there is still some artisan in me, as find no problem to jump in the MK 6 GTI and enjoy that as equally as much even if light years behind tech wise.
Now getting used to the dimensions, think you are spot on, its a bit smoke and mirrors on where felt sitting as again starting to feel at one with car and that's increasingly a non factor/thought.
Actually bought myself an OEM boot liner, which is quite swish, but wish had checked the 'cool liner' took out of the TCR now as nothing wrong with it, never even thought to check it would fit in the 1 series!
Its highly likely will end up with a late MK 7 again at some point so the Cool Liner will just have to take up some shed space till then
Going to get the car well past the 1000 mile mark and hopefully with full familiarity and being able to freely drive in manner of its predecessors can give a really informed opinion on how stacks up against them predecessors and as BMW stab at a GTI
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Same for me, handing my keys over tomorrow, traded in my Clubsport.
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To close out my change from the GTI TCR to 128Ti a final comparison review.
Clocked over 2500 miles in the 128Ti now through all the driving modes, from the day to day, right through to the spirited, and all on roads that previous cars travelled on, and so feel can state with some certainty how it stacks up now against the GTI TCR which is pretty close to where the 128Ti is pitched against.
Would give the GTI TCR 9/10 and the 128Ti 7.5/10
The GTI TCR is obviously borne from the 2013 cabin design but did have the latest media and driver display and some nice Alcantara touches, and bespoke designs, it was a nice place to sit, and the BMW, being a 2019 design is similarly as really nice place to be, and the media system and interaction is exceptionally good. Would say its marginally the 128Ti that wins due to large clear screen and slick media, with seamless, wireless Apple Play. But it’s closer than thought would be.
There is some personal dislikes, not really bonded yet with the fly by wire gear selection, still finding myself checking what selecting and just not fluid with it, which imagine would be same struggle in a MK 8, and the auto hold is not as seamless as the GTI TCR, it can be mildly jerky at times,
Love the heated steering wheel, been huge plus this winter, and the auto park has grown on me, use it for tight parks, and then adjust last bit myself, though if in a hurry, you do it yourself! Its way too slow if anyone is waiting on you.
Do not quite walk up to the 128Ti with the loving eyes of the GTI TCR, as think that was kitted out superbly in the Pure Grey, Reifnitz with Akra tips, but the 128Ti does have its own admirable stance, and the signature alloys are really nice design, with the red elements of brake caliper (a first for BMW) and red accents, with the Ti, making it stand out as something different.
Build quality on 128Ti is superb, good quality materials, nothing moves, no squeaks whatsoever, but again, the GTI TCR was similar, so the BMW may shade it, but again marginally.
The GTI however wins hands down in the handling and drive, there is a little aloofness to the handling of the 128Ti, with some evident torque steer, and you feel that you are sitting a lot higher, and even though the suspension is passive, and expectation was for it to be desirably firm, it feels close to the DCC comfort setting for the GTI.
Find the gearbox too smooth and linear, both up and down the gears, which suppose is a positive to how well it manages the gears, but particularly on braking, quite like to feel the gears shifting down ala the DSG,.
Its super quick though, feels no slower than the TCR in straight line, it really goes! and in town handling is super smooth and quick, so it does have some short burst engagement, but open up on a winding stretch and that ride, in height and softness and slight aloofness in steer becomes evident and is the mark and a half detraction.
So, for the large majority of the time, where want to poodle around with everyone else in comfort, the 128Ti is a 9/10 car, my wife loves it for that aspect, it feels premium and ride is comfort, but for me, that goes against it at the times I want it to convert to something edgier, as its marginally too soft in steering and the ride. GTI TCR was 2 cars in I and the 128Ti is 1 ¾ cars in I
In summary, BMW have done a really good job at a GTI, the 128Ti is a great car, with lots to like, not least the premium cabin and media, but they just need to sharpen up its ride and steering for a winding stretch to take it up into the 9/10 range from the 7.5 giving it now.
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Great review Hertsman, strange as I always thought the BMW would be the sharper drive. Years of advertising sunk in I suppose! Sounds like you are enjoying it which is great, but not a keeper?
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Great review Hertsman, strange as I always thought the BMW would be the sharper drive. Years of advertising sunk in I suppose! Sounds like you are enjoying it which is great, but not a keeper?
Was little surprised as none of reviews mentioned that hint of aloofness and vagueness when pushed on, but its definitely there.
For 98% time its a great car, so am enjoying it a lot, but it just fades when you want it to excel.
Its not a keeper, and as a company lease it just goes back, so can drive it quite freely and enjoy, and I will likely going back to late MK 7.5 Golf R in about 12 months, which is not obviously for the full on engagement, but have flip flopped between AWD and FWD in last 15 years and just due a cycle in AWD again and as had a MK 7 Golf R, do know exactly what will be getting in experience,
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As ever, really good to read your thoughts Hertsman.
We’ll sum up the 128Ti as “a good experience but not an enduring one” then?
And you still have that beautiful ED35 for your VW fix.
An R would therefore make a good stable mate for the GTI, with one being AWD it means you won’t have two overtly similar drives, yet there’ll be that genetic similarity you’re so familiar with, and there’s always the option of a Royal Steering Wheels alcantara wrap which means you wouldn’t miss the heated wheel quite so much… :smiley:
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As ever, really good to read your thoughts Hertsman.
We’ll sum up the 128Ti as “a good experience but not an enduring one” then?
And you still have that beautiful ED35 for your VW fix.
An R would therefore make a good stable mate for the GTI, with one being AWD it means you won’t have two overtly similar drives, yet there’ll be that genetic similarity you’re so familiar with, and there’s always the option of a Royal Steering Wheels alcantara wrap which means you wouldn’t miss the heated wheel quite so much… :smiley:
With all the words written prior and since, think you nailed what should have been all the reviewers headline for the 128Ti in one line :smiley: “a good experience but not an enduring one”
Be looking for the unicorn of Golf R, with Akra, Sunroof, Leather and Oryx so will be prepared to wait sometime though would likely settle somewhere between that for the right car, but now looked over the fence, its convinced me that back home to performance Golfs is where heart is :)
Will miss the heated steering wheel though!! haha, so alternative comfort options will be sought :grin:
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Be looking for the unicorn of Golf R, with Akra, Sunroof, Leather and Oryx
Have you seen Oryx? It's okay but the pearl effect rarely shows, I don't mind it as I have it but I certainly wouldn't pay extra for it.
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Maybe that’s because you only wash yours twice a year Watts? :whistle: :laugh:
Hertsman, that car could well be out there given a decent budget and patient wait.
After some of the horror stories on here I’d be scared of having one with a sunroof but aside from that the spec sounds extremely desirable and ironically would cost about the same now as the buyer might have paid new three or four years ago!
With R’s you’ll know 7 out of 10 will have been hammered, 2/10 will have been used and treated fairly normally and that remaining 10% will have been cherished. The nice ones are out there..
I’d quite happily move back to a bong free existence with a mint low spec 7.5R or TCR myself. I’d miss that steering wheel though 😁
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A friend of mine has a MK7 in Oryx white, and he was recently hit by another car (nothing too bad but requiring painting of the front bumper sand nearside wing). The approved body shop have now tried 4 times to get a paint match, and my friend says he can still see a difference in the shading. He spoke to the owner of the body shop who admitted that VW Oryx white is a mare to get looking just right and is one of the hardest colours to match, and he doubted it would ever look like it did from the factory !.
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A friend of mine has a MK7 in Oryx white, and he was recently hit by another car (nothing too bad but requiring painting of the front bumper sand nearside wing). The approved body shop have now tried 4 times to get a paint match, and my friend says he can still see a difference in the shading. He spoke to the owner of the body shop who admitted that VW Oryx white is a mare to get looking just right and is one of the hardest colours to match, and he doubted it would ever look like it did from the factory !.
That's a shame as its a lovely colour, but you can see why that is the reality and really good to know as not something would want to be involved in as once there is perceived to be a mismatch it seems never ending due to everyone likely having a different view to what looks right at the margins and its usually the owner who has that mismatch nag in their head the most.
My Golf R, Lapiz Blue was a bit of a knock magnet requiring rear bumper and new passenger rear door from separate events and I could not tell they had been repainted, so that's a positive experience for that colour.
Fortunately there is a lot of Golf R out there and there is no real bad colour, be open to the whites, Lapiz and Grey, so will start searches for the best car with the options looking for and then if colour is something like.
Shame they did not do limestone grey on the MK 7.5 as always kicked myself a little bit for eliminating so early and not seeing one in flesh first
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Maybe that’s because you only wash yours twice a year Watts? :whistle: :laugh:
Hertsman, that car could well be out there given a decent budget and patient wait.
After some of the horror stories on here I’d be scared of having one with a sunroof but aside from that the spec sounds extremely desirable and ironically would cost about the same now as the buyer might have paid new three or four years ago!
With R’s you’ll know 7 out of 10 will have been hammered, 2/10 will have been used and treated fairly normally and that remaining 10% will have been cherished. The nice ones are out there..
I’d quite happily move back to a bong free existence with a mint low spec 7.5R or TCR myself. I’d miss that steering wheel though 😁
Absolutely, will not be jumping at any, and do not have to, have as much time as need, so it will be a diligent search and there will have to be a lot of the mandatory boxes to service history, how many owners etc, to tick before pull any trigger, but any used car sale does have an element of risk, but I will be searching out the enthusiast cared for as much as is possible.
Good call on the sunroof, as never had one, never even thought to the issues, but just looked at the threads on subject and might be something actually save myself from also, along with the oryx as trust the comments on here implicitly with regards the pitfalls, as my aim is always to jump into a car and just enjoy it, and not have to battle with some of the knowns if avoidable.
Have seen the prices start to settle, not by much, couple of thousand, but the signs are there and hope in 12 months that will be just that little bit more as more new cars replace existing and forecourts start to fill.
My GTI TCR is up for sale at Northampton VW for £31999, it was £37510 3 1/2 years ago. It was offered to me for £29000 with 6 months warranty by lease company.
Did notice they state they replaced the front brake discs which found really strange as was only VW serviced and MOT a few weeks before went back without any comment, so not sure what that was about, as said, strange
Now you convinced me to have a heated steering wheel, going to miss it now, wish never listened to that advice :grin:
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No regrets now on passing up on the TCR at £29k?
I guess you could invest another £3k in it and get an extra 18 months warranty and new brakes thrown in!
VW workshops can be strange as regards the brakes, I bet the discs weren’t cheap either.
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No regrets now on passing up on the TCR at £29k?
I guess you could invest another £3k in it and get an extra 18 months warranty and new brakes thrown in!
VW workshops can be strange as regards the brakes, I bet the discs weren’t cheap either.
Surprised myself, not even a slither of regret, with a daughter getting married this year and a bunch of other things, it was easy not to justify £29000 on what would have been second car duties, and so we spent just £2000 changing the 2nd car from the Audi to the GTI which we are extremely happy with as a decision.
Also, think its been good to drive something over the fence for a while and go back, as think will have a new found appreciation for the Golf, as having been in one for 9 years, was definitely becoming a little complacent and desensitised to the experience and to pay £29000 to just continue to drive my dirty TCR maybe would have been quite a flat experience.
The brake disc change is so strange as would not consider myself mad on the brakes, and not even a flicker of a mention at MOT or Service at same time, but hey, doubt that cheap and maybe why the price is at the top end of £31999
I would expect to pay about £29000 - £30000 for one now,
I am hoping market settles in next 12 months, just that shade more, and could get a late MK 7.5 R in the £25,000 range, maybe optimistic, but its not beyond also. Will not be paying for company car then so monies is much more justifiable.
I could go new and make payments, but admit its just the principle of paying near £50k that completely halts me, as would the experience be double that of a £25000 R? Not for me.
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Maybe that’s because you only wash yours twice a year Watts? :whistle: :laugh:
Unfortunately that is about right :embarrassed: